UK asylum seekers expected to be flown to Rwanda
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valiant said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: £500M so far isn't it?
Wonder what the next excuse will be.
Apparently they’ve also found thousands of hours worth of court time, hundreds of judges to sit in these cases and other legal staff to administer it.Wonder what the next excuse will be.
Must be comforting to those waiting for justice for sometimes over a year because of cuts to the justice system that resources can be found when it’s expedient for political aims…
Superflow said:
Interesting development that this is now law.
Have to say as a traditional conservative voter not planning on voting if they can fill up planes to Rwanda with economic migrants clutching their iPhones and also bring in the benefits time cap for the scroungers then they may swing me back to ticking their box.
Time will tell.
As a former life long Tory, even if they send 200 a day to Rawanda I still won't vote. I want to keep more of my hard earned spending 500m on a problem that won't fix it won't achieve that.Have to say as a traditional conservative voter not planning on voting if they can fill up planes to Rwanda with economic migrants clutching their iPhones and also bring in the benefits time cap for the scroungers then they may swing me back to ticking their box.
Time will tell.
Sky are reporting French police are using rubber bullets and still the people try and try again to get here.
This is insanity. The only solution is processing in France and having power to move people back there. Given we left the EU and France won't have them back we are screwed and spending half a billion on flights to Rawanda is mental
robinessex said:
s1962a said:
Rivenink said:
So have the Tories announced they've awarded a lucrative contract to fly asylum seekers to Rwanda to a Tory Donor who doesn't have any planes?
It'll cost £1.8m per person to fly them out (for the first 300), so a good payday for the "chums" that get selected to run the scheme.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/01/rw...
The 300 on the first plane has notrelationsh
Mr Penguin said:
£1.8 million per person assumes only 300 go (one or two full planes), if the policy takes off then that cost will reduce.
You don’t send full planes of migrants.There has to be security on the planes and in some cases there may be at least one security bod for every migrant. If a migrant is suspected in wanting to kick off then it could be two security bods for that migrant and let’s face it, most don’t want to be on these flights so the risk of something happening is quite high and the last thing the government wants is for the flight to return or be diverted plus the company supplying the plane and crew will want cast iron assurances that there will be no risk to crew or plane even if it’s a RAF flight. No captain will risk his plane unnecessarily.
Cost of a flight diversion is huge so if the risk is high then suddenly the overall cost could be spiralling. Doesn't sound like a great idea unless the political gain is immense in getting votes from the terminally reactionary and pissed off. But even those are in a minority anyway. A race to nowhere and a race to the populist bottom.
Gecko1978 said:
Superflow said:
Interesting development that this is now law.
Have to say as a traditional conservative voter not planning on voting if they can fill up planes to Rwanda with economic migrants clutching their iPhones and also bring in the benefits time cap for the scroungers then they may swing me back to ticking their box.
Time will tell.
As a former life long Tory, even if they send 200 a day to Rawanda I still won't vote. I want to keep more of my hard earned spending 500m on a problem that won't fix it won't achieve that.Have to say as a traditional conservative voter not planning on voting if they can fill up planes to Rwanda with economic migrants clutching their iPhones and also bring in the benefits time cap for the scroungers then they may swing me back to ticking their box.
Time will tell.
Sky are reporting French police are using rubber bullets and still the people try and try again to get here.
This is insanity. The only solution is processing in France and having power to move people back there. Given we left the EU and France won't have them back we are screwed and spending half a billion on flights to Rawanda is mental
It is amazing how much time and energy people expend on trying to stop something they are sure will not work.
I think the underlying problem here is that hundreds of thousands of people illegally enter Europe, mostly through Turkey-Greece, Libya-Italy, and Morocco-Spain. Dealing with people crossing the Channel by sending them to Rwanda or back to France is just fixing the problems that come with not dealing with that at a higher cost.
All major European countries need to pay for better defences of Europe's borders at these points, processing facilities to register claims elsewhere and negotiate a change in international law so these people can register outside Europe and have no excuse to enter illegally.
We can start by sending Albanians back, there is no reason for so many Albanians to be seeking asylum.
Also worth remembering that other countries like the Rwanda policy and are looking into it themselves, so the cost of this policy will be replicated across Europe. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/17/cdu-...
All major European countries need to pay for better defences of Europe's borders at these points, processing facilities to register claims elsewhere and negotiate a change in international law so these people can register outside Europe and have no excuse to enter illegally.
We can start by sending Albanians back, there is no reason for so many Albanians to be seeking asylum.
Also worth remembering that other countries like the Rwanda policy and are looking into it themselves, so the cost of this policy will be replicated across Europe. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/17/cdu-...
Flying them to Rwanda, I’ll give it’s a snowballs chance in hell.
We seem to throwing zillions of money to the French to stop the boats, throwing money to Rwanda, throwing money to help the war between Russia and Ukraine, money wasted on the high speed rail link, yet elderly people survive on a pittance.
Sorry didn’t want to deviate from the post, just wanted to get that off my chest, as you were, carry on.
We seem to throwing zillions of money to the French to stop the boats, throwing money to Rwanda, throwing money to help the war between Russia and Ukraine, money wasted on the high speed rail link, yet elderly people survive on a pittance.
Sorry didn’t want to deviate from the post, just wanted to get that off my chest, as you were, carry on.
valiant said:
Mr Penguin said:
£1.8 million per person assumes only 300 go (one or two full planes), if the policy takes off then that cost will reduce.
You don’t send full planes of migrants.There has to be security on the planes and in some cases there may be at least one security bod for every migrant. If a migrant is suspected in wanting to kick off then it could be two security bods for that migrant and let’s face it, most don’t want to be on these flights so the risk of something happening is quite high and the last thing the government wants is for the flight to return or be diverted plus the company supplying the plane and crew will want cast iron assurances that there will be no risk to crew or plane even if it’s a RAF flight. No captain will risk his plane unnecessarily.
Gecko1978 said:
As a former life long Tory, even if they send 200 a day to Rawanda I still won't vote. I want to keep more of my hard earned spending 500m on a problem that won't fix it won't achieve that.
Sky are reporting French police are using rubber bullets and still the people try and try again to get here.
This is insanity. The only solution is processing in France and having power to move people back there. Given we left the EU and France won't have them back we are screwed and spending half a billion on flights to Rawanda is mental
Vive la France !Sky are reporting French police are using rubber bullets and still the people try and try again to get here.
This is insanity. The only solution is processing in France and having power to move people back there. Given we left the EU and France won't have them back we are screwed and spending half a billion on flights to Rawanda is mental
Police State said:
NuckyThompson said:
Once they get to Rwanda, what’s stopping them getting on a plane to Paris and starting again?
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