Elon Musk $41B offer for Twitter
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Byker28i said:
Translation: Based on yet another conversation with my attorneys..... and While it is true that I fired the employee because they have muscular dystrophy, I merely assumed he didn’t do work because of his disability but it turns out it didn’t meaningfully affect his output or work quality
This is your fantasy. In reality, Musk apologized and changed his approach...something I believe you said he was incapable of doing?Byker28i said:
Theres reports that Halli who Elon publicly ridiculed for asking about the status of his employment sold his company to Twitter for approximately $100 million, and the deal was structured in a way which requires payment for the entire deal upon his termination.
This is someone else's fantasy. No evidence for the $100m valuation it's a guess based on poor research and incorrect assumptions (Halli sold a design company not an engineering company, Halli's income tax does not solely reflect his Twitter salary, etc...)Byker28i said:
Which has led to Tesla stocks dropping again as people assumed he was going to have to pay out another $100m...
If that was the case it would be due to a disinformation campaign from the anti-Musk lobby...which you are against, I think? Twitter is adding context to posts using the spurious $100m valuation so Twitter still works Byker28i said:
This can't be right, musk was going to stop bots.
Oh wait, they're pro trump
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/07...
But API, $8 and Blockchain were supposed to fix this!Oh wait, they're pro trump
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/07...
dimots said:
Byker28i said:
Translation: Based on yet another conversation with my attorneys..... and While it is true that I fired the employee because they have muscular dystrophy, I merely assumed he didn’t do work because of his disability but it turns out it didn’t meaningfully affect his output or work quality
This is your fantasy. In reality, Musk apologized and changed his approach...something I believe you said he was incapable of doing?Byker28i said:
Theres reports that Halli who Elon publicly ridiculed for asking about the status of his employment sold his company to Twitter for approximately $100 million, and the deal was structured in a way which requires payment for the entire deal upon his termination.
This is someone else's fantasy. No evidence for the $100m valuation it's a guess based on poor research and incorrect assumptions (Halli sold a design company not an engineering company, Halli's income tax does not solely reflect his Twitter salary, etc...)Byker28i said:
Which has led to Tesla stocks dropping again as people assumed he was going to have to pay out another $100m...
If that was the case it would be due to a disinformation campaign from the anti-Musk lobby...which you are against, I think? Twitter is adding context to posts using the spurious $100m valuation so Twitter still works Just an 'oh he said sorry, so St Elon is perfect'
rscott said:
But API, $8 and Blockchain were supposed to fix this!
Indeed since the API change almost all of those accounts have ceased to exist. The vast majority were run using services like IFTTT which has had free access revoked.The Cyabra study this article is based on was commissioned by Musk to uncover the extent of the bot problem.
The wronged Twitterati at the Guardian wouldn't have thought to mention that, preferring the drama of 'in the past 11 months' because that's when Elon first bought Twitter!
rscott said:
Yet you have no real criticism of Musk's poor research and incorrect assumptions about the employee initially?
Just an 'oh he said sorry, so St Elon is perfect'
Internal channels first for employment queries? Too crazy a concept? Should we all be using Twitter to raise our HR issues?Just an 'oh he said sorry, so St Elon is perfect'
dimots said:
rscott said:
Yet you have no real criticism of Musk's poor research and incorrect assumptions about the employee initially?
Just an 'oh he said sorry, so St Elon is perfect'
Internal channels first for employment queries? Too crazy a concept? Should we all be using Twitter to raise our HR issues?Just an 'oh he said sorry, so St Elon is perfect'
https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16328431917...
rscott said:
I guess you failed to comprehend that he'd spent the 9 days since he lost access to internal systems asking HR to confirm if he'd been fired or not and they couldn't tell him. Or that Musk had not replied to his emails?
https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16328431917...
Sure, so maybe he wasn't fired? 9 days and he's only contacted Head of HR and Elon. Maybe he could have contacted someone else? Maybe it was an internal issue? Maybe he could have taken it to DMs like a man after Elon made contact? Maybe maybe maybe, none of us can know can we?https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16328431917...
It's pretty obvious that he wanted the Twitter spat in public. He got what he wanted I guess.
dimots said:
rscott said:
I guess you failed to comprehend that he'd spent the 9 days since he lost access to internal systems asking HR to confirm if he'd been fired or not and they couldn't tell him. Or that Musk had not replied to his emails?
https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16328431917...
Sure, so maybe he wasn't fired? 9 days and he's only contacted Head of HR and Elon. Maybe he could have contacted someone else? Maybe it was an internal issue? Maybe he could have taken it to DMs like a man after Elon made contact? Maybe maybe maybe, none of us can know can we?https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16328431917...
It's pretty obvious that he wanted the Twitter spat in public. He got what he wanted I guess.
If you actually read the tweet I linked to, it doesn't say he only contacted the head of HR, rather than even the head of HR couldn't say if he was fired or not. Far more likely the issue got escalated up to the head by various other people first.
rscott said:
Maybe St Elon should have DM'd him, rather than giving him permission to break an NDA by posting in public?
If you actually read the tweet I linked to, it doesn't say he only contacted the head of HR, rather than even the head of HR couldn't say if he was fired or not. Far more likely the issue got escalated up to the head by various other people first.
Ok sure you can interpret it how you want, I can interpret it how I want. It's not clear and we can't know.If you actually read the tweet I linked to, it doesn't say he only contacted the head of HR, rather than even the head of HR couldn't say if he was fired or not. Far more likely the issue got escalated up to the head by various other people first.
What do we know?
Guy who works at Twitter in a position of some responsibility (according to his own statements) took HR issue to Twitter and addressed the CEO, the richest man in the world, possibly the busiest man in the world, in the middle of one of the most high profile business transformation projects in the history of humanity, where public Twitter spats are under intense scrutiny from a largely hostile audience, and got a response and a face to face video call to resolve the issue.
dimots said:
rscott said:
I guess you failed to comprehend that he'd spent the 9 days since he lost access to internal systems asking HR to confirm if he'd been fired or not and they couldn't tell him. Or that Musk had not replied to his emails?
https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16328431917...
Sure, so maybe he wasn't fired? 9 days and he's only contacted Head of HR and Elon. Maybe he could have contacted someone else? Maybe it was an internal issue? Maybe he could have taken it to DMs like a man after Elon made contact? Maybe maybe maybe, none of us can know can we?https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16328431917...
It's pretty obvious that he wanted the Twitter spat in public. He got what he wanted I guess.
dimots said:
Ok sure you can interpret it how you want, I can interpret it how I want. It's not clear and we can't know.
What do we know?
Guy who works at Twitter in a position of some responsibility (according to his own statements) took HR issue to Twitter and addressed the CEO, the richest man in the world, possibly the busiest man in the world, in the middle of one of the most high profile business transformation projects in the history of humanity, where public Twitter spats are under intense scrutiny from a largely hostile audience, and got a response and a face to face video call to resolve the issue.
second richestWhat do we know?
Guy who works at Twitter in a position of some responsibility (according to his own statements) took HR issue to Twitter and addressed the CEO, the richest man in the world, possibly the busiest man in the world, in the middle of one of the most high profile business transformation projects in the history of humanity, where public Twitter spats are under intense scrutiny from a largely hostile audience, and got a response and a face to face video call to resolve the issue.
dimots said:
Ok sure you can interpret it how you want, I can interpret it how I want. It's not clear and we can't know.
What do we know?
Guy who works at Twitter in a position of some responsibility (according to his own statements) took HR issue to Twitter and addressed the CEO, the richest man in the world, possibly the busiest man in the world, in the middle of one of the most high profile business transformation projects in the history of humanity, where public Twitter spats are under intense scrutiny from a largely hostile audience, and got a response and a face to face video call to resolve the issue.
The problem was that the response was that the richest man in the world etc ridiculed the guy, implied that his disability meant he can't perform meaningful work and also showed that he has no idea who his senior level employees are. What do we know?
Guy who works at Twitter in a position of some responsibility (according to his own statements) took HR issue to Twitter and addressed the CEO, the richest man in the world, possibly the busiest man in the world, in the middle of one of the most high profile business transformation projects in the history of humanity, where public Twitter spats are under intense scrutiny from a largely hostile audience, and got a response and a face to face video call to resolve the issue.
Its a bonfire of his own making
dimots said:
rscott said:
I guess you failed to comprehend that he'd spent the 9 days since he lost access to internal systems asking HR to confirm if he'd been fired or not and they couldn't tell him. Or that Musk had not replied to his emails?
https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16328431917...
Sure, so maybe he wasn't fired? 9 days and he's only contacted Head of HR and Elon. Maybe he could have contacted someone else? Maybe it was an internal issue? Maybe he could have taken it to DMs like a man after Elon made contact? Maybe maybe maybe, none of us can know can we?https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16328431917...
It's pretty obvious that he wanted the Twitter spat in public. He got what he wanted I guess.
I'd love to spend a day experiencing Dimot's world view. I think it'd be like when you were a kid and the first time you experienced a kaleidoscope.
Yes, it's totally the icelandic chap that looks worse here, bothering an important man with something as trivial as employment status / contract breeches. Good job St Elon managed the situation in a professional and appropriate way, and put the young upstart back in his box. Share price to the moon!
Yes, it's totally the icelandic chap that looks worse here, bothering an important man with something as trivial as employment status / contract breeches. Good job St Elon managed the situation in a professional and appropriate way, and put the young upstart back in his box. Share price to the moon!
Some Gump said:
I'd love to spend a day experiencing Dimot's world view. I think it'd be like when you were a kid and the first time you experienced a kaleidoscope.
Yes, it's totally the icelandic chap that looks worse here, bothering an important man with something as trivial as employment status / contract breeches. Good job St Elon managed the situation in a professional and appropriate way, and put the young upstart back in his box. Share price to the moon!
There's no need to be silly.Yes, it's totally the icelandic chap that looks worse here, bothering an important man with something as trivial as employment status / contract breeches. Good job St Elon managed the situation in a professional and appropriate way, and put the young upstart back in his box. Share price to the moon!
I get that you all hate Elon Musk. I don't really get why, and I assume it's a sort of mix of impotence and ego that makes you think he's nothing special, he got lucky, and you could do things better than him? That's what I assume anyway.
I think the exact opposite. I think people like Elon Musk are very rare. I don't care if he was created from a happy accident of opportunity, privilege and ability. He has a vision and he makes things happen, I like people like that.
I think what he is attempting with Twitter is genuinely exciting and good for everyone. I don't agree with the jilted Twitterati at The Guardian and their ilk...they have an agenda driven by sour grapes over what they see as a battle for their spiritual homeland. It's a bit tragic.
Byker28i said:
This can't be right, musk was going to stop bots.
Oh wait, they're pro trump
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/07...
Can I please highlight this media bias again so you can consider it.Oh wait, they're pro trump
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/mar/07...
Guardian article does not mention that this Cyabra study was commissioned by Elon Musk.
Proof that the media have an agenda and are biased.
https://cyabra.com/musk-v-twitter-read-cnns-articl...
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