Elon Musk $41B offer for Twitter
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CrutyRammers said:
glazbagun said:
This has been a great thing to witness. Poetic.
Elon has exposed himself as being clueless and in a bubble of his own making.
Then (again) exposes himself as a bully, except that even more than the cave diver, the guy he's picking on turns out to be almost his saintly antithesis.
And he's such an active d
head. Other company owners would have just forwarded it to an HR bod or lackey to look into.
I'm just catching up on this having been quite busy the past couple of days. This defence/takedown is just brutal.
https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16330827354...
The whole thing has been incredible. I wonder if this is "peak musk", or whether he can scale further heights of idiocy?Elon has exposed himself as being clueless and in a bubble of his own making.
Then (again) exposes himself as a bully, except that even more than the cave diver, the guy he's picking on turns out to be almost his saintly antithesis.
And he's such an active d
head. Other company owners would have just forwarded it to an HR bod or lackey to look into.I'm just catching up on this having been quite busy the past couple of days. This defence/takedown is just brutal.
https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/16330827354...
Edited by glazbagun on Wednesday 8th March 08:28
rscott said:
dimots said:
tangerine_sedge said:
It's not clear that this latest report from Cyabra was comissioned by elno. Its the same company, using likely some of the same data, but it doesn't make it the same report. The fact that this has only just been published directly to AP indicates that this is a separate piece of analysis, likely a Cybara puff-piece to advertise their domain experience.
This report though is critical of elno, because it points out that these botnets are still there and have been active since before elno took over. So much for elnos attempts at fixing the 'bot' problem.
Have you read the report? I have.This report though is critical of elno, because it points out that these botnets are still there and have been active since before elno took over. So much for elnos attempts at fixing the 'bot' problem.
Bots, musk was going to fix all that, but some ones created thousands to support trump and attack Desantis
https://wtop.com/elections/2023/03/digital-foot-so...
https://wtop.com/elections/2023/03/digital-foot-so...
Byker28i said:
Bots, musk was going to fix all that, but some ones created thousands to support trump and attack Desantis
https://wtop.com/elections/2023/03/digital-foot-so...
We've had that already. Dimots claims to have read the report, even though no-one seems to have published a link to it.https://wtop.com/elections/2023/03/digital-foot-so...
dimots said:
I get that you all hate Elon Musk. I don't really get why, and I assume it's a sort of mix of impotence and ego that makes you think he's nothing special, he got lucky, and you could do things better than him? That's what I assume anyway.
Wow, lets make this personal. Actually, what I dislike is that Musk has created a 'cult of personality' and image around what and who he is. He is not what you think and whilst the cars are impressive and the rockets clever, he is not the visionary that he claims. He's a charlatan and snake oil salesman. And I want to make sure that people are aware of this - we need to stop seeing him as some sort of perfection. He isnt. He's a thin-skinned narcissist who has a problem with pretty much anyone - including the disabled!
dimots said:
I think the exact opposite. I think people like Elon Musk are very rare. I don't care if he was created from a happy accident of opportunity, privilege and ability. He has a vision and he makes things happen, I like people like that.
Thankfully Musk is rare, we really dont want more of them. He treads over workers rights, promotes terrible workplaces, walks over facts and reality and will openly lie about pretty much anything. 1M robotaxis on the road in 2022? Swappable batteries in Tesla cars? Seen once and never seen again. I could go on. As for vision? Yeah, not so sure there. He has cleverly created an impression, but he's not the innovator that he claims. Trains in vacuum tunnels? Nope, he didnt invent that. He's been trying to claim that he has a vision for public transport, which ended up being Tesla's WITH DRIVERS in tunnels. Thats hardly visionary. What does it say about a person when they write into the contract that he must be referred to as "the founder" of Tesla when he wasnt? Seriously, is that the sign of a healthy personality? I could go on, but this vision isnt his.
What he has managed is to be able to force teams to deliver - usually through pretty stupid ways - and Tesla has managed this. Great. But he isnt a designer, product engineer or even the originator for most of the Tesla ideas. Just like Steve Jobs never invented the iphone, Musk didnt invent Tesla, yet he has created an image that he has.
dimots said:
I think what he is attempting with Twitter is genuinely exciting and good for everyone. I don't agree with the jilted Twitterati at The Guardian and their ilk...they have an agenda driven by sour grapes over what they see as a battle for their spiritual homeland. It's a bit tragic.
There are no sour grapes from me - I actually enjoy the fact that he's thrown so much money at Twitter and successfully killed of 40% of the business already. Less than a year and 40% of its revenue has gone. Desperate attempts to claw back revenue arent working and he's resorted to manipulating the data and meaningless charts to try and justify his 'success'.
Twitter was always a nightmare place and contrary to what Musk might claim, its getting worse. At least before attempts were made to police and manage the content. Now its a free-for-all in the guise of 'free speech'. It was profitable and it was successful, though to a limited degree. Now he is successfully killing what is left and sinking even more money into something that he clearly has no idea how to run.
_dobbo_ said:
Yeah because nobody can make a passing comment on an absolute tt unless they are obsessed, right?
10/10 for trolly effort
1/10 for content.
Well that was quite the over reaction. There are many here (and Twitter etc) that make a lot more than a “passing comment” on pretty much every tweet/statement/ramble he has. Everyday.t unless they are obsessed, right? 10/10 for trolly effort
1/10 for content.
NerveAgent said:
Well that was quite the over reaction. There are many here (and Twitter etc) that make a lot more than a “passing comment” on pretty much every tweet/statement/ramble he has. Everyday.
You've come into a thread full of people commenting on Musk, compared people's reactions to him with reactions towards Trump, effectively called people who comment on it obsessive, then claimed when called out on it that the callout was an over-reaction.As for commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble - do you post a similar reply in every single thread on every single topic on this forum? Have you been into every single brexit thread to call out people commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble posted by Johnson/Farage/Sunak? Or is it only people "obsessed" with horrible right wing celebrities that you have a problem with?
_dobbo_ said:
You've come into a thread full of people commenting on Musk, compared people's reactions to him with reactions towards Trump, effectively called people who comment on it obsessive, then claimed when called out on it that the callout was an over-reaction.
As for commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble - do you post a similar reply in every single thread on every single topic on this forum? Have you been into every single brexit thread to call out people commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble posted by Johnson/Farage/Sunak? Or is it only people "obsessed" with horrible right wing celebrities that you have a problem with?
Errmmm, no I didn’t…As for commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble - do you post a similar reply in every single thread on every single topic on this forum? Have you been into every single brexit thread to call out people commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble posted by Johnson/Farage/Sunak? Or is it only people "obsessed" with horrible right wing celebrities that you have a problem with?
_dobbo_ said:
Odd that you won't clarify what you said but rather will deny my interpration.
I'd welcome a clarification and I'm happy to apologise if I got it wrong
You got red mist, misinterpreted an a fairly benign observation as a personal attack, and yes, got it wrong.I'd welcome a clarification and I'm happy to apologise if I got it wrong
And that’s ignoring your random, out of nowhere, Brexit thread comparison
NerveAgent said:
_dobbo_ said:
You've come into a thread full of people commenting on Musk, compared people's reactions to him with reactions towards Trump, effectively called people who comment on it obsessive, then claimed when called out on it that the callout was an over-reaction.
As for commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble - do you post a similar reply in every single thread on every single topic on this forum? Have you been into every single brexit thread to call out people commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble posted by Johnson/Farage/Sunak? Or is it only people "obsessed" with horrible right wing celebrities that you have a problem with?
Errmmm, no I didn’t…As for commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble - do you post a similar reply in every single thread on every single topic on this forum? Have you been into every single brexit thread to call out people commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble posted by Johnson/Farage/Sunak? Or is it only people "obsessed" with horrible right wing celebrities that you have a problem with?
NerveAgent said:
I do find the whole Musk thing fascinating. He seems to have filled the “Trump void” for many obsessive types, both worshipers and full time haters. It’s the latest tribal thing I guess.
You almost, sort of, did. 
stemll said:
NerveAgent said:
_dobbo_ said:
You've come into a thread full of people commenting on Musk, compared people's reactions to him with reactions towards Trump, effectively called people who comment on it obsessive, then claimed when called out on it that the callout was an over-reaction.
As for commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble - do you post a similar reply in every single thread on every single topic on this forum? Have you been into every single brexit thread to call out people commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble posted by Johnson/Farage/Sunak? Or is it only people "obsessed" with horrible right wing celebrities that you have a problem with?
Errmmm, no I didn’t…As for commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble - do you post a similar reply in every single thread on every single topic on this forum? Have you been into every single brexit thread to call out people commenting on every tweet/statement/ramble posted by Johnson/Farage/Sunak? Or is it only people "obsessed" with horrible right wing celebrities that you have a problem with?
NerveAgent said:
I do find the whole Musk thing fascinating. He seems to have filled the “Trump void” for many obsessive types, both worshipers and full time haters . It’s the latest tribal thing I guess.
You almost, sort of, did. Eta: I extended the bold so it’s not taken out of context…
Edited by NerveAgent on Wednesday 8th March 21:45
_dobbo_ said:
NerveAgent said:
You got red mist, misinterpreted an a fairly benign observation as a personal attack, and yes, got it wrong.
And that’s ignoring your random, out of nowhere, Brexit thread comparison
So no clarification on what you meant, just another personal attack. Cool.And that’s ignoring your random, out of nowhere, Brexit thread comparison
very cryptic. NerveAgent said:
Which bit of that says “people who comment on it”??
Eta: I extended the bold so it’s not taken out of context…
I did include that bit extra in my bold originally, not sure why it was missing from the final post. Too many edits I suspect.Eta: I extended the bold so it’s not taken out of context…
Edited by NerveAgent on Wednesday 8th March 21:45
As to your question, it is implied (or looked it to me) that people who weren't commenting on "the Musk thing" wouldn't part of it. Don't get me wrong, I think you are right, I was just commenting that you did use "obsessive types" in your post so kinda did say what _dobbo_ said.
If I'm not careful I will look like I agree with _dobbo_ which is absolutely not the case outside this one, very trivial, point. I shall now go away
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