Roe v Wade Being Repealed

[C70R]

RDMcG said:

I would never have imagined Ireland becoming a liberal democracy and the US turning so far backwards. There are more disruptions to cone as the US turns inwards and heads for isolationism.

As someone who has a lot of friends in the US and spends a couple of months a year out there on average (I've visited 30-something states), I think it's always helpful to step back and remind myself of why America exists.

Basically, a bunch of religious nutters (the Puritans) legged it across the Atlantic because they weren't confident that they wouldn't be persecuted for being super-conservative, controlling religious nutters at home. They then committed a genocide of the indigenous people, decided that it was appropriate for them to own people from Africa, and then swept it all under the carpet, using Hollywood (in the 20th century) as the sort of PR machine that the Third Reich would be proud of.

With that context, it's hardly surprising that they occasionally pass laws that wouldn't seem out of place in middle-eastern dictatorships.

Edited by C70R on Tuesday 3rd May 19:02

[The Rotrex Kid]

Donbot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

Donbot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

Donbot said:

MC Bodge said:

I've never understood why so many religious people (who worship one or more omnipotent deities) are so concerned about what other people with their own (god-given?) free will do with their genitalia, reproductive organs or life.

Ps. Why does god need to auto-correct to capital G?

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 3rd May 18:19

Abortion isn't god's will.

It’s literally not mentioned in the bible at all.

Gods will. bks.

Christians seem to have a hard on for it for some reason.

Because religion is about control. Always has been, always will be.

There's more to religion than control. We are a Christian based society after all.

Thankfully a rapidly declining number of people are subscribers to religion in the country as we become more enlightened to the fact it is the biggest confidence scam ever inflicted on humanity (religion as a whole, not just Christianity)

[NRS]

C70R said:

RDMcG said:

I would never have imagined Ireland becoming a liberal democracy and the US turning so far backwards. There are more disruptions to cone as the US turns inwards and heads for isolationism.

As someone who has a lot of friends in the US and spends a couple of months a year out there on average (I've visited 30-something states), I think it's always helpful to step back and remind myself of why America exists.

Basically, a bunch of religious nutters (the Puritans) legged across the Atlantic because they weren't confident that they wouldn't be prosecuted for being super-conservative, controlling religious nutters at home. They then committed a genocide of the indigenous people, decided that it was appropriate for them to own people from Africa, and then swept it all under the carpet, using Hollywood (in the 20th century) as the sort of PR machine that the Third Reich would be proud of.

With that context, it's hardly surprising that they occasionally pass laws that wouldn't seem out of place in middle-eastern dictatorships.

I suspect most of the puritans were likely not the ones wiping out the natives or bringing slaves across - that was more of us greedy bds from back home hoping to make a quick buck. That analogy also works though, given how they love to hope to make it one day, even if it means society overall is worse off.

[jimmyjimjim]

C70R said:

As someone who has a lot of friends in the US and spends a couple of months a year out there on average (I've visited 30-something states), I think it's always helpful to step back and remind myself of why America exists.

Basically, a bunch of religious nutters (the Puritans) legged it across the Atlantic because they weren't confident that they wouldn't be persecuted for being super-conservative, controlling religious nutters at home. They then committed a genocide of the indigenous people, decided that it was appropriate for them to own people from Africa, and then swept it all under the carpet, using Hollywood (in the 20th century) as the sort of PR machine that the Third Reich would be proud of.

With that context, it's hardly surprising that they occasionally pass laws that wouldn't seem out of place in middle-eastern dictatorships.

To be fair, this is a decent explanation of the current mess. Add in the bit that the US isn't really a country but a collection of 50 smaller ones, and it all makes more sense.

[GroundEffect]

"because my religion says so" isn't a good argument for head gear, let alone reproductive rights.

I'm a bit angry but ultimately, they are an 'educated' country, so leave them to it. I would visit for holiday but I would definitely never move there now. The last 5+ years have showed how backwards a lot of it is.

[hidetheelephants]

C70R said:

RDMcG said:

I would never have imagined Ireland becoming a liberal democracy and the US turning so far backwards. There are more disruptions to cone as the US turns inwards and heads for isolationism.

As someone who has a lot of friends in the US and spends a couple of months a year out there on average (I've visited 30-something states), I think it's always helpful to step back and remind myself of why America exists.

Basically, a bunch of religious nutters (the Puritans) legged across the Atlantic because they weren't confident that they wouldn't be prosecuted for being super-conservative, controlling religious nutters at home. They then committed a genocide of the indigenous people, decided that it was appropriate for them to own people from Africa, and then swept it all under the carpet, using Hollywood (in the 20th century) as the sort of PR machine that the Third Reich would be proud of.

With that context, it's hardly surprising that they occasionally pass laws that wouldn't seem out of place in middle-eastern dictatorships.

The "huddled masses" were no more likely to arrive because of religious persecution as poverty or hunger. Fortunately the constitution wasn't written by the tedious puritans; imagine how ridiculous it might be if Joseph Smith had dictated part of it.

[Gweeds]

Donbot said:

Pro-life is your own life. You don't kill someone 'till you shoot them.

What?

[NRS]

Gweeds said:

Donbot said:

Pro-life is your own life. You don't kill someone 'till you shoot them.

What?

You're not allowed an abortion even if raped, but you are allowed to use a gun and kill someone cause you were scared (or in some cases as they were black).

[Carl_Manchester]

I think the law was fine as it was and there are bigger fish to be frying.

I also feel this move is a consequence of the democrats in washington trying to include federal abortion funding into almost every big bill that traverses the house.

Reps: let's build some bridges and airports
Dems: we will agree if you agree to include abortion funding (or some sort of other Wade Rowe related topic).

With Wade Rowe out of the picture, in theory it removes the ability for the Dems to keep pulling the federal abortion funding card out like some sort of joker in the pack.

[Donbot]

Gweeds said:

Donbot said:

Pro-life is your own life. You don't kill someone 'till you shoot them.

What?

You don't kill someone just by owning a gun. The 2nd Amendment is to protect yourself.

[The Rotrex Kid]

Donbot said:

Gweeds said:

Donbot said:

Pro-life is your own life. You don't kill someone 'till you shoot them.

What?

You don't kill someone just by owning a gun. The 2nd Amendment is to protect yourself.

Ahh the old ‘guns don’t kill people, people kill people’ schtick. Good one.

[Donbot]

NRS said:

Gweeds said:

Donbot said:

Pro-life is your own life. You don't kill someone 'till you shoot them.

What?

You're not allowed an abortion even if raped, but you are allowed to use a gun and kill someone cause you were scared (or in some cases as they were black).

Seems to be the crux of it.

[MC Bodge]

Donbot said:

MC Bodge said:

I've never understood why so many religious people (who worship one or more omnipotent deities) are so concerned about what other people with their own (god-given?) free will do with their genitalia, reproductive organs or life.

Ps. Why does god need to auto-correct to capital G?

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 3rd May 18:19

Abortion isn't god's will.

Although childhood cancer appears to be

[Donbot]

MC Bodge said:

Donbot said:

MC Bodge said:

I've never understood why so many religious people (who worship one or more omnipotent deities) are so concerned about what other people with their own (god-given?) free will do with their genitalia, reproductive organs or life.

Ps. Why does god need to auto-correct to capital G?

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 3rd May 18:19

Abortion isn't god's will.

Although childhood cancer appears to be

God does seem to be a bit of a bd especially the old testament.

[vetrof]

Donbot said:

Abortion isn't god's will.

Yet 'god' terminates more pregnancies every year by way of miscarriages & still births.

[ChocolateFrog]

The Rotrex Kid said:

Donbot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

Donbot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

Donbot said:

MC Bodge said:

I've never understood why so many religious people (who worship one or more omnipotent deities) are so concerned about what other people with their own (god-given?) free will do with their genitalia, reproductive organs or life.

Ps. Why does god need to auto-correct to capital G?

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 3rd May 18:19

Abortion isn't god's will.

It’s literally not mentioned in the bible at all.

Gods will. bks.

Christians seem to have a hard on for it for some reason.

Because religion is about control. Always has been, always will be.

There's more to religion than control. We are a Christian based society after all.

Thankfully a rapidly declining number of people are subscribers to religion in the country as we become more enlightened to the fact it is the biggest confidence scam ever inflicted on humanity (religion as a whole, not just Christianity)

The fact billions of people still go along with religion boggles my mind.

[MC Bodge]

The Rotrex Kid said:

Donbot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

Donbot said:

The Rotrex Kid said:

Donbot said:

MC Bodge said:

I've never understood why so many religious people (who worship one or more omnipotent deities) are so concerned about what other people with their own (god-given?) free will do with their genitalia, reproductive organs or life.

Ps. Why does god need to auto-correct to capital G?

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 3rd May 18:19

Abortion isn't god's will.

It’s literally not mentioned in the bible at all.

Gods will. bks.

Christians seem to have a hard on for it for some reason.

Because religion is about control. Always has been, always will be.

There's more to religion than control. We are a Christian based society after all.

Thankfully a rapidly declining number of people are subscribers to religion in the country as we become more enlightened to the fact it is the biggest confidence scam ever inflicted on humanity (religion as a whole, not just Christianity)

Indeed.

The Ten Commandments are pretty much just harmonious-human-community-centric.

The god bit was just there to enforce it.

Religion is fiction.

[kowalski655]

Donbot said:

Abortion isn't god's will.

That's because god doesn't exist

[Gweeds]

Donbot said:

You don't kill someone just by owning a gun. The 2nd Amendment is to protect yourself.

Yeah sure.

Now tell me how pro-life is about only your own life.

[JeffreyD]

Donbot said:

There's more to religion than control. We are a Christian based society after all.

We are making some very positive steps away from being so.