Blackpool footballer comes out as gay

[Tyre Smoke]

Who was the gay F1 driver?

Wasn't Ralf Schumacher was it? I remember rumours about his wife being a 'beard'.

Sorry for the diversion.

[thebraketester]

Blackpool..... yeah that is very brave of him to put that out for all to see.

[Randy Winkman]

Tyre Smoke said:

Randy Winkman said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Randy Winkman said:

JagLover said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Seriously? That's almost misogynistic.

It is an exaggeration but not far short of the truth. Women's football is likely of a similar standard to boys U15 due to the physical demands of the sport.

That is why we have separate male and female sections in most sports.

Looks to me like someone trying to conflate two issues because they have a problem with one or both of them. Or with something to do with misogynism.

Is that aimed at me?

Yes. My reaction to how a thread about a man coming out as being gay resulted in someone asking why there is men's and women's football (does that even need asking?) and ended up with what to me looked like a sarcastic comment about misogyny because someone said that men are clearly much better at football than women. Even as a total woke it's obvious that is true. Do you not think so? Are you really concerned that 272BHP is being misogynistic in saying that? If so I gladly take back my comment but at the same time wonder how much you know or care about sport.

Read my comment again. You have twisted it to suit your own agenda. I said almost misogynistic. To suggest that the cream of women's football would struggle to beat a county team of U16s is insulting. If women were so crap at it, why was there circa 50k at Wembley watching the FA Cup final?

I fully understand that men are stronger, it's nature. That is why we have male and female categories in all sports pretty much.

To clarify, my point was women's football is at a much higher standard than that. But perhaps that is part of the problem, men don't want to see that?

I really don't see there's much of a distinction between "misogynistic" and "almost misogynistic". I just don't think the word "almost" adds much. And I don't think that crowd sizes have any relationship to how good men are versus women. That's two entirely separate things. I watch all sorts of women's sports and for instance, love athletics irrespective of whether it's women competing or men. I just dont think it's in any way misogynistic to say that in most athletic sports, men are way better then women. But I still wonder how this thread got to this place. I guess I'm just as much to blame as anyone. No hard feelings I hope.

[OddCat]

Thread haircut......

Edited by OddCat on Tuesday 17th May 19:56

[272BHP]

Tyre Smoke said:

Read my comment again. You have twisted it to suit your own agenda. I said almost misogynistic. To suggest that the cream of women's football would struggle to beat a county team of U16s is insulting. If women were so crap at it, why was there circa 50k at Wembley watching the FA Cup final?

I fully understand that men are stronger, it's nature. That is why we have male and female categories in all sports pretty much.

To clarify, my point was women's football is at a much higher standard than that. But perhaps that is part of the problem, men don't want to see that?

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/

[Randy Winkman]

272BHP said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Read my comment again. You have twisted it to suit your own agenda. I said almost misogynistic. To suggest that the cream of women's football would struggle to beat a county team of U16s is insulting. If women were so crap at it, why was there circa 50k at Wembley watching the FA Cup final?

I fully understand that men are stronger, it's nature. That is why we have male and female categories in all sports pretty much.

To clarify, my point was women's football is at a much higher standard than that. But perhaps that is part of the problem, men don't want to see that?

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/

And I'd just like to reinforce the point that being both one of PH's number one wokes and a real athletic sports fan, me regarding men as being way better than women at athletic sports doesn't mean I feel that men's sport is better than women's sport or that it's more entertaining or has any more value in any way.

[rambo19]

Good luck to the lad.
Hopefully we live in a world where he won't get grief for it.

[1000 Miglia]

I see today a team mate of this fella has apologized for historic homophobic social media posts from about 10 years
ago .

no doubt a member of the gutter press spent a while looking for any posts to cause a ruck ....

[Milkyway]

Lets see how far we have moved on since the Justin Fashanu era.

Edited by Milkyway on Wednesday 18th May 12:30

[Jenny Tailor]

The sad thing is that this is even news in this day and age.

[Driver101]

1000 Miglia said:

I see today a team mate of this fella has apologized for historic homophobic social media posts from about 10 years
ago .

no doubt a member of the gutter press spent a while looking for any posts to cause a ruck ....

It's a very strange thing to do even by gutter press standards. On the back of the news someone has felt the need to try and make a story, but have made themselves look bitter and nasty.

I can't quite understand the mentality of trying to find dirt on his teammate's after yesterday's news. To go back 10 years to pick up a 16/17 year old is desperate stuff.

The player's statement read well. Accepting they were wrong and he's been educated with his time playing football. I think it's a fair enough apology and not requiring further punishment.

[MiniMan64]

Jenny Tailor said:

The sad thing is that this is even news in this day and age.

Hopefully this lads self-outing, so to speak, is the first step to this being seen as normal and no longer a news story.

[crofty1984]

Gay footballer comes out as "from Blackpool"

[Jenny Tailor]

crofty1984 said:

Gay footballer comes out as "from Blackpool"

Very good

[KingNothing]

272BHP said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Read my comment again. You have twisted it to suit your own agenda. I said almost misogynistic. To suggest that the cream of women's football would struggle to beat a county team of U16s is insulting. If women were so crap at it, why was there circa 50k at Wembley watching the FA Cup final?

I fully understand that men are stronger, it's nature. That is why we have male and female categories in all sports pretty much.

To clarify, my point was women's football is at a much higher standard than that. But perhaps that is part of the problem, men don't want to see that?

https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-...

Also:

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/australi...

https://www.sportbible.com/football/athletic-club-...

https://www.sportbible.com/football/news-gremio-me...

https://www.thelocal.se/20130116/45646/

And there were 50k at Wembley because the most expensive ticket was £25 and for under 16's it was £2.50 a ticket.

Edited by KingNothing on Wednesday 18th May 16:53

[JagLover]

This latest story seems relevant

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61492696

In the past political symbols were banned from Football, perhaps to stop issues like this developing. Now that rule is applied very inconsistently.

[Driver101]

JagLover said:

This latest story seems relevant

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61492696

In the past political symbols were banned from Football, perhaps to stop issues like this developing. Now that rule is applied very inconsistently.

Why shouldn't football take a stand against homophobia or racism?

Why sweep issues under the carpet to stop issues developing? It's not really stopping issues developing. It's just trying to ignore the problem.

[JagLover]

Driver101 said:

JagLover said:

This latest story seems relevant

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61492696

In the past political symbols were banned from Football, perhaps to stop issues like this developing. Now that rule is applied very inconsistently.

Why shouldn't football take a stand against homophobia or racism?

Individual footballers making a stand against either issue as a matter of choice is to be welcomed. Political symbols were banned in the past to stop football being dragged into the political arena, no matter how worthy the cause.

[Driver101]

JagLover said:

Driver101 said:

JagLover said:

This latest story seems relevant

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61492696

In the past political symbols were banned from Football, perhaps to stop issues like this developing. Now that rule is applied very inconsistently.

Why shouldn't football take a stand against homophobia or racism?

Individual footballers making a stand against either issue as a matter of choice is to be welcomed. Political symbols were banned in the past to stop football being dragged into the political arena, no matter how worthy the cause.

Why would a player want to take a stand against racism or homophobia? Why would it be welcomed if they do?

[chrispmartha]

JagLover said:

Driver101 said:

JagLover said:

This latest story seems relevant

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61492696

In the past political symbols were banned from Football, perhaps to stop issues like this developing. Now that rule is applied very inconsistently.

Why shouldn't football take a stand against homophobia or racism?

Individual footballers making a stand against either issue as a matter of choice is to be welcomed. Political symbols were banned in the past to stop football being dragged into the political arena, no matter how worthy the cause.

Depends if you view human rights as ‘political’.

The player in question can do what he likes, but surely PSG can too.