How About Another EU Referendum?
Poll: How About Another EU Referendum?
Total Members Polled: 462
Discussion
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Being even more honest, if it weren't for Dutch merchants sailing up the Thames to fight the great fire, London might not be our capital today. And how did with thank them, we granted them a licence to sell eels. And if it weren't for our crap weather doing in the Spanish Armada, we'd probably be speaking Spanish. We got seriously lucky winning that one, a war that we started and where we were the baddies.
Napoleon understood this, famously saying he wanted not good generals, but lucky ones Edited by TwigtheWonderkid on Friday 1st July 17:51
skwdenyer said:
And if it weren't for our crap weather doing in the Spanish Armada, we'd probably be speaking Spanish.
Another thread hijack. Can I recommend the Dan Snow documentary on the Armada. It not on BBC at the moment but it's on YT. While the weather finished off the Spanish that was after the invasion was called off. It fascinating Phillip 2 planned the invasion in great detail. With the Armada sailing up the channel to pick up the invading army from Flanders.
However, in all his detailed planning he gave no thought to how they should communicate. So the ships had no idea exactly where to meet the army and the army had no idea where the ships where.
Edited by Mrr T on Sunday 3rd July 18:43
Democracy should always reflect the will of the voters.
That same thing that has staunch leavers saying 'respect the vote' to allow people to make a go of Brexit, should also be open to more votes in the future if people want another.
If the polling and public discourse suggests we stay out, then we stay out. If the opposite occurs then a referndum needs to be held.
One and done should never, ever be a thing, especially as generations die out and others replace them. Not saying that younger voters would automatically vote to rejoin, just that the will of the people 100 years ago would be different to know and it can change in a much shorter time than that based on what happens.
A referendum should always be available, but there has to be some realism in how quickly we can achieve something that could qualified as success to then realise whether we need another vote.
I do think it was and still is absolutely silly to expect those in Westminster to make a good fist of things as they're all self-serving, bumbling w
kers but equally that there isn't anybody else to vote for so we're stuck regardless. I'd fully expect them to make a complete fk up of rejoining and those that wanted to rejoin would do the flipside of those decrying remoaners as having the keys and screwing it up.
That same thing that has staunch leavers saying 'respect the vote' to allow people to make a go of Brexit, should also be open to more votes in the future if people want another.
If the polling and public discourse suggests we stay out, then we stay out. If the opposite occurs then a referndum needs to be held.
One and done should never, ever be a thing, especially as generations die out and others replace them. Not saying that younger voters would automatically vote to rejoin, just that the will of the people 100 years ago would be different to know and it can change in a much shorter time than that based on what happens.
A referendum should always be available, but there has to be some realism in how quickly we can achieve something that could qualified as success to then realise whether we need another vote.
I do think it was and still is absolutely silly to expect those in Westminster to make a good fist of things as they're all self-serving, bumbling w
kers but equally that there isn't anybody else to vote for so we're stuck regardless. I'd fully expect them to make a complete fk up of rejoining and those that wanted to rejoin would do the flipside of those decrying remoaners as having the keys and screwing it up.Edited by F1GTRUeno on Sunday 3rd July 17:40
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