US Supreme court have overturned Roe V Wade

[bloomen]

smn159 said:

It's motivated by religious fundamentalism rather than any welfare considerations

Yup. But there probably isn't all that many of them. I'm sure many sympathise, but even more are disgusted.

This is what happens when a small group with laser focus keeps chipping away while everyone else dithers.

[Carl_Manchester]

bloomen said:

I'm sure many sympathise, but even more are disgusted.

They can register their disgust at the mid-terms in November and then again in 2024. Change is never too far away if the people want it.

[Gweeds]

Carl_Manchester said:

They can register their disgust at the mid-terms in November and then again in 2024. Change is never too far away if the people want it.

And how do you remove SCOTUS judges with life terms?

[Gweeds]

“ “This is the day the Lord has made; let us rejoice in it and be glad. Today, along with millions across Louisiana and America, I rejoice with my departed Mom and the unborn children with her in Heaven!”, Louisiana attorney general Jeff Landry said in a statement where he announced a law banning abortion in the state was now in effect.”

Insanity.

[mondeoman]

Rufus Stone said:

MiniMan64 said:

So when it’s a couple of hundred cells it’s sentient?

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying some people believe life begins at conception and they are entitled to that belief even if you disagree with it.

As its a belief, it is very much open to ridicule.

[Funk]

mondeoman said:

Rufus Stone said:

MiniMan64 said:

So when it’s a couple of hundred cells it’s sentient?

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying some people believe life begins at conception and they are entitled to that belief even if you disagree with it.

As its a belief, it is very much open to ridicule.

And those people have NO right to impose their crazy beliefs on anyone else.

"I can't do that as it's against my religion." - Fine no problem.

"YOU can't do that as it's against my religion." - You can go and get fked.

[MrsMiggins]

Coming to a state thankfully not near you...

[vaud]

Randy Winkman said:

I agree with that point even though I don't agree in any way with today's decision. What the decision does illustrate is something utterly weird about the US. i.e that this has happened under a Democrat president.

It is an odd system to many.

[vaud]

The Handmaid's Tale was fiction, right?

Not helped by characters like this...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-6178944...

[Cobracc]

Welcome.....to Jurassic Park!

[Getragdogleg]

It's insane.

The US is going utterly backwards.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

[gregs656]

Is there a summary anywhere of the differences (if there are any) between the leaked draft opinion and this opinion?

[vaud]

Getragdogleg said:

It's insane.

The US is going utterly backwards.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

Individually not much. I have found nothing but amazing hospitality in the US with no class system (they have racism instead). I like spending time there.

As a collective and with a constitution that isn't necessarily fit for purpose (SCOTUS membership until death, etc) it's impossible to see a way forward.

[kowalski655]

GroundEffect said:

Should women be tried for manslaughter if they have a miscarriage?

No, but they soon will be

And if forced to give birth, there's no universal health care, no maternity leave to speak of, minimal welfare, no cheap childcare.
Carlin again: If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fked.

Edited by kowalski655 on Friday 24th June 20:03

[Electro1980]

Gweeds said:

Carl_Manchester said:

They can register their disgust at the mid-terms in November and then again in 2024. Change is never too far away if the people want it.

And how do you remove SCOTUS judges with life terms?

This and the constitution are the issue. Many Americans have this bizarre idea that these things are sacred. Unfortunately the need for super majority and the indoctrination in the sanctity of the constitution makes it unlikely anything will change for the better any time soon.

[The Rotrex Kid]

The Onion nails it as normal.



Incredible this can even be happening in 2022.

[MB140]

Funk said:

paulguitar said:

It was inevitable after RBG died and they put that alleged alcoholic rapist into the scotus

This is why I never had any time for people who were amused at trump getting elected. I knew if that ever came to pass America would be monumentally fked, and I am not at all pleased to have been right.

Also note that Trump/GOP packed the SCOTUS with 3 relatively young justices - when appointed, Kavanaugh was 53, Gorsuch was 49 and Coney-Barrett was 48. They're lifetime appointments which means these three will be in-situ for at least another 25-30 years. The Republicans have stacked the SCOTUS deck significantly; what we're seeing now is just the beginning and there'll be worse to come.

Edited by Funk on Friday 24th June 19:09

Makes me wonder if some of those guns they all love so much might be used to slot a few of these SC justices if there a lifetime appointment.

The US is truly becoming a backward country. Although on this point of abortion. What’s to stop you from driving from a state that says it illegal. Have the procedure and drive home again. Whilst I am aware that’s not exactly the point or the politically correct solution. It does solve a problem. Let me guess your home state will then charge you with murder of an unborn child

[vaud]

Electro1980 said:

This and the constitution are the issue. Many Americans have this bizarre idea that these things are sacred. Unfortunately the need for super majority and the indoctrination in the sanctity of the constitution makes it unlikely anything will change for the better any time soon.

100%. (sadly)

[Seventy]

MadMullah said:

i believe lousiana has already made abortion illegal

Half the US states have had plans in place for this since 1973.

[kowalski655]

MB140 said:

Makes me wonder if some of those guns they all love so much might be used to slot a few of these SC justices if there a lifetime appointment.

The US is truly becoming a backward country. Although on this point of abortion. What’s to stop you from driving from a state that says it illegal. Have the procedure and drive home again. Whilst I am aware that’s not exactly the point or the politically correct solution. It does solve a problem. Let me guess your home state will then charge you with murder of an unborn child

IIRC a lot of states have made that illegal too, so even if a woman gets an abortion, she still faces legal hell. As well as people who help her.
Also people who are poor won't have that facility to take time off, travel, pay hotel,and of course medical bills, etc. It will affect POC disporportionally. The mistresses of rich republicans won't have that problem.