US Supreme court have overturned Roe V Wade
Discussion
Biggy Stardust said:
greygoose said:
They seem to be looking to the Taliban model for women’s rights.
Different god, same st.Difficult to believe that the USA can, in 2022, start returning to a much earlier era.
Even more crazy to see the supporters of the change so excited that women will, in future, lose their rights and be forced to carry a child they may not want.
What is it about the USA?. They now want to produce even more children - presumably so that many more are available to be shot when they get to school.
"The conservative justice Clarence Thomas appeared to offer a preview of the court’s potential future rulings, suggesting the rightwing-controlled court may return to the issues of contraception access and marriage equality, threatening LGBTQ rights.
“In future cases, we should reconsider all of this court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell,” Thomas wrote in his concurring opinion to the ruling on Roe."
Shocking.
“In future cases, we should reconsider all of this court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell,” Thomas wrote in his concurring opinion to the ruling on Roe."
Shocking.
There are plans in some states to even go after women having abortions, even if they're not resident in that state
It was mentioned on CNN earlier that passing through a state, getting pregnant while there, and then seeking an abortion later could land a woman in trouble. How they'd prove it on the other hand...
It was mentioned on CNN earlier that passing through a state, getting pregnant while there, and then seeking an abortion later could land a woman in trouble. How they'd prove it on the other hand...
PTF said:
There are plans in some states to even go after women having abortions, even if they're not resident in that state
It was mentioned on CNN earlier that passing through a state, getting pregnant while there, and then seeking an abortion later could land a woman in trouble. How they'd prove it on the other hand...
They don't need to prove it, just say God told them, that seems to be the level of society they have over there, the whole court seems to be a pantomime of oh no you didn't, oh yes we did.It was mentioned on CNN earlier that passing through a state, getting pregnant while there, and then seeking an abortion later could land a woman in trouble. How they'd prove it on the other hand...
If I was a woman I'd be saying get fked.
PTF said:
There are plans in some states to even go after women having abortions, even if they're not resident in that state
It was mentioned on CNN earlier that passing through a state, getting pregnant while there, and then seeking an abortion later could land a woman in trouble. How they'd prove it on the other hand...
Wa,CT,& MN have pledged to defend those prosecuted for out of state abortions.It was mentioned on CNN earlier that passing through a state, getting pregnant while there, and then seeking an abortion later could land a woman in trouble. How they'd prove it on the other hand...
Not sure how
Ian Geary said:
loafer123 said:
Rufus Stone said:
MiniMan64 said:
So when it’s a couple of hundred cells it’s sentient?
That's not what I'm saying.I'm saying some people believe life begins at conception and they are entitled to that belief even if you disagree with it.
They are not entitled to force others to adhere to that belief.
Randy Winkman said:
this has happened under a Democrat president.
Hmm, I cba to explain how Biden has no legal mechanism to affect this judgement, has condemned it very strongly, and it was set in motion entirely by the previous president.But, as this is common knowledge to anyone with a basic grasp of us politics, I have to assume you're just trolling for attention?
A handy map to show you how backward the place is:
https://reproductiverights.org/maps/what-if-roe-fe...
https://reproductiverights.org/maps/what-if-roe-fe...
BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
AW111 said:
BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
JakeT said:
Very sad to hear. Land of the free and home of the brave. Unless you’re a woman.
Yeah, because being vaccinated is exactly the same as being forced to incubate and give birth to a child conceived by rape.
“My body my choice” no longer exists. Last year was the start of a slippy road.
I very much doubt that the choice to abort a foetus is a particularly easy one for many women either but at least they do have that choice in civilised countries.
Kermit power said:
You still had a choice with the vaccines though. Maybe that choice was between being vaccinated and keeping your job, so not the best choice, but a choice all the same.
I very much doubt that the choice to abort a foetus is a particularly easy one for many women either but at least they do have that choice in civilised countries.
Amazing that America can now be added to those countries no longer considered to be civilised.I very much doubt that the choice to abort a foetus is a particularly easy one for many women either but at least they do have that choice in civilised countries.
vonuber said:
Eric Mc said:
Of course - but that is a bit like living here in the UK. If you live in Northern Ireland, you have to travel to GB to obtain an abortion.
Nope. Even NI is ahead of the US.https://informingchoicesni.org/central-access-poin...
mondeoman said:
As its a belief, it is very much open to ridicule.
No not really.https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryo...
Kermit power said:
For now, but I'm pretty sure that was only in response to an ECtHR judgement and guess what? Priti the fascist wants to remove us from their jurisdiction so that she can send a plane load of poor bds to an oppressive African nation, so who knows? Maybe as a special Brucie Bonus Northern Ireland's own bible-thumping neanderthal knuckledraggers will get to rejoin their American counterparts jn the first half of the 20th century some time soon?
While no fan of Priti in any form, I don't see anything in the UK as remotely comparable to the direction the US is taking.Silverbullet767 said:
loafer123 said:
That is correct, they are entitled to that belief.
They are not entitled to force others to adhere to that belief.
They are not entitled to force others to adhere to that belief.
100% don't be a 'tard Rufus. Life begins at birth. End of
By that logic, I could punch a pregnant woman in the stomach and kill the baby the day before she's due to give birth, and I'd only be guilty of assault.
I'd be more comfortable with the notion of life beginning at the point at which a foetus could realistically survive outside the womb were the mother to die, for example.
Rufus Stone said:
mondeoman said:
As its a belief, it is very much open to ridicule.
No not really.https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryo...
MiniMan64 said:
Which means if you’re unlucky enough to live in a state where the crazy white bible thumpers are in charge you’re fked. And that’s about 50% of the country.
The other point here is, what are the conservative right going to go after next? Gay marriage? Gay rights?
Surely they can just move.The other point here is, what are the conservative right going to go after next? Gay marriage? Gay rights?
Castrol for a knave said:
Imagine the state telling a man what he can do with his body, there'd be a carnage.
Didn't they already do that with the vaccine mandates for government employees and the attempt to get private companies to follow suit.....Wasn't that funny.
Edited by Harrison Bergeron on Friday 24th June 21:27
vaud said:
Kermit power said:
For now, but I'm pretty sure that was only in response to an ECtHR judgement and guess what? Priti the fascist wants to remove us from their jurisdiction so that she can send a plane load of poor bds to an oppressive African nation, so who knows? Maybe as a special Brucie Bonus Northern Ireland's own bible-thumping neanderthal knuckledraggers will get to rejoin their American counterparts jn the first half of the 20th century some time soon?
While no fan of Priti in any form, I don't see anything in the UK as remotely comparable to the direction the US is taking.Leaving the jurisdiction of the ECtHR would be a first step in that direction though.
Kermit power said:
BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
AW111 said:
BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
JakeT said:
Very sad to hear. Land of the free and home of the brave. Unless you’re a woman.
Yeah, because being vaccinated is exactly the same as being forced to incubate and give birth to a child conceived by rape.
“My body my choice” no longer exists. Last year was the start of a slippy road.
I very much doubt that the choice to abort a foetus is a particularly easy one for many women either but at least they do have that choice in civilised countries.
Maybe it’s more similar than I thought?
I think the new ruling is disgusting, I just find the hypocrisy amusing. No one should be told what they can / cannot do with their body. With the injections it was under threat of becoming ousted from society.
Nice to see Trudeau getting a social media kicking.
https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/154036202...
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