US Supreme court have overturned Roe V Wade

US Supreme court have overturned Roe V Wade

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andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Saturday 9th July 2022
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lord summerisle said:
10 year old raped by her uncle, has to travel across state line to get an abortion with Ohio banning abortion after six weeks

https://eu.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/oh...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/10-year-ol...
No one would make up a story like this would they?

https://archive.ph/SP1Xn

scratchchin

I mean, Biden was going on about it yesterday, so it'll have been checked I guess wouldn't it. Wouldn't it?

ETA: Confirmed, 27yr old arrested. What a world.

Edited by andy_s on Thursday 14th July 01:17

handpaper

1,296 posts

203 months

Monday 11th July 2022
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g3org3y said:
Another good podcast by Bari Weiss who brings together a pro-life and pro-choice supporter along with a Constitution law expert for a round table discussion.

Worth a listen if you can spare the time.
A good discussion of the technicalities behind Dobbs and other decisions from ReasonTV. It's examined from a Libertarian perspective, but does a good job of explaining neutrally the doctrines developed and used.

Byker28i

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59,896 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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I mean yes they all did, not just Gorsuch and Kavanaugh by ACB as well...

Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ted Lieu are calling on the Senate to determine whether Supreme Court Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh lied under oath about their views on Roe v. Wade.
https://www.axios.com/2022/07/11/aoc-brett-kavanau...

We know Kavanaugh lied about his past, his debts in his confirmation, that the GOP limited investigations, refused to hear witnesses...

Byker28i

Original Poster:

59,896 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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andy_s said:
No one would make up a story like this would they?

https://archive.ph/SP1Xn

scratchchin

I mean, Biden was going on about it yesterday, so it'll have been checked I guess wouldn't it. Wouldn't it?

ETA: Confirmed, 27yr old arrested. What a world.

Edited by andy_s on Thursday 14th July 01:17
Good edit, that really didn't age well for those GOP who also claimed it was Fake. Jim Jordon deleted his tweets...
The arrested man was indicted yesterday
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/07/13/arrest-c...

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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Byker28i said:
andy_s said:
No one would make up a story like this would they?

https://archive.ph/SP1Xn

scratchchin

I mean, Biden was going on about it yesterday, so it'll have been checked I guess wouldn't it. Wouldn't it?

ETA: Confirmed, 27yr old arrested. What a world.

Edited by andy_s on Thursday 14th July 01:17
Good edit, that really didn't age well for those GOP who also claimed it was Fake. Jim Jordon deleted his tweets...
The arrested man was indicted yesterday
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/07/13/arrest-c...
Did I claim it was fake…?

deckster

9,630 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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andy_s said:
Did I claim it was fake…?
I don't know, did you?

scratchchin

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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deckster said:
andy_s said:
Did I claim it was fake…?
I don't know, did you?

scratchchin
Can you read?

deckster

9,630 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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andy_s said:
deckster said:
andy_s said:
Did I claim it was fake…?
I don't know, did you?

scratchchin
Can you read?
Can you remember what that really annoying debating technique that answers every question with another question is called?

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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deckster said:
andy_s said:
deckster said:
andy_s said:
Did I claim it was fake…?
I don't know, did you?

scratchchin
Can you read?
Can you remember what that really annoying debating technique that answers every question with another question is called?
The Deckster?

deckster

9,630 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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andy_s said:
deckster said:
andy_s said:
deckster said:
andy_s said:
Did I claim it was fake…?
I don't know, did you?

scratchchin
Can you read?
Can you remember what that really annoying debating technique that answers every question with another question is called?
The Deckster?
Isn't that the one where the debater just replies with nonsense because it's nearly time to knock off work?

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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deckster said:
andy_s said:
deckster said:
andy_s said:
deckster said:
andy_s said:
Did I claim it was fake…?
I don't know, did you?

scratchchin
Can you read?
Can you remember what that really annoying debating technique that answers every question with another question is called?
The Deckster?
Isn't that the one where the debater just replies with nonsense because it's nearly time to knock off work?
I think it may be, safe drive home!

deckster

9,630 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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andy_s said:
deckster said:
andy_s said:
deckster said:
andy_s said:
deckster said:
andy_s said:
Did I claim it was fake…?
I don't know, did you?

scratchchin
Can you read?
Can you remember what that really annoying debating technique that answers every question with another question is called?
The Deckster?
Isn't that the one where the debater just replies with nonsense because it's nearly time to knock off work?
I think it may be, safe drive home!
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anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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andy_s said:
Did I claim it was fake…?
If you’re going to be dickish, at least have the grace to own it when it blows up in your face.

southendpier

5,261 posts

229 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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BlackWidow13 said:
If you’re going to be dickish, at least have the grace to own it when it blows up in your face.
Amen, if a few more dicks blew up in a few more faces then the need for so many abortions would be lower.



kowalski655

14,643 posts

143 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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Ohio AG is opening an investigation into the doctor. Fox News showed her photo, so putting a target on her back

Byker28i

Original Poster:

59,896 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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andy_s said:
Byker28i said:
andy_s said:
No one would make up a story like this would they?

https://archive.ph/SP1Xn

scratchchin

I mean, Biden was going on about it yesterday, so it'll have been checked I guess wouldn't it. Wouldn't it?

ETA: Confirmed, 27yr old arrested. What a world.

Edited by andy_s on Thursday 14th July 01:17
Good edit, that really didn't age well for those GOP who also claimed it was Fake. Jim Jordon deleted his tweets...
The arrested man was indicted yesterday
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/07/13/arrest-c...
Did I claim it was fake…?
Did anyone say you did use the word fake? I'll state now you didn't use the word fake, In fact I praised you for updating the story.

Although what were you originally implying, because you're original tone makes it sound like you thought it was a false accusation, made up? wink
Perhaps you'd like to clear that up to avoid any misunderstanding.

Several of the Fox news, GOP, etc did though, use the word fake... especially those that deleted their tweets...like Jim Jordon, Fox News host Jesse Watters spent the opening segment of his primetime show suggesting it was fabricated to benefit a left-wing agenda.

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 14th July 17:31

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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‘who also claimed it was Fake’ was your phrase, ‘also’ being the operative.

Read the WaPo article, it points out the story was single source and uncorroborated and journalists couldn’t get any more info.

I asked ‘no one would make up a story like that would they?’ and ‘Biden mentioned, they’d check wouldn’t they’? Yet that’s interpreted as calling it ‘fake’.

My point was not to lean on it, it was dubious/uncertain/unproven, not it was fake.



Edited by andy_s on Thursday 14th July 19:24

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th July 2022
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andy_s said:
No one would make up a story like this would they?

https://archive.ph/SP1Xn

scratchchin

I mean, Biden was going on about it yesterday, so it'll have been checked I guess wouldn't it. Wouldn't it?
This was your original post, pre edit.

The first three paras cast a crude innuendo that the story has been fabricated. Plain as day.

The final para is a sarky suggestion that in its enthusiasm to embrace and repeat the story, the WH readily and quickly swallowed a falsehood rather than research and expose it.

Since then it’s been weasel words from you.

Byker28i

Original Poster:

59,896 posts

217 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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Ohio AG said he was going to investigate the doctor for not reporting properly, slandered her, purely for political reasons and without any evidence, Fox Newz named the doctor, putting her at risk from the violent anti abotionists.

This is where the GOP is at the moment, an attorney general who would go after a doctor trying to support the health, welfare, and future of a ten year old rape victim whilst ignoring the attacker, who it turns out raped her twice.

Remember Fox Newz originally ran the story this was all faked, then she didn't need an abortion, to the doctor lied about the girl needing to leave Ohio, to the doctor didn't file the reports, to she did file the reports but didn't talk to reporters about it...

https://fox59.com/indiana-news/abortion-report-con...

Byker28i

Original Poster:

59,896 posts

217 months

Friday 15th July 2022
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I make no secret of my admiration for Ted Lieu.
Yesterday he called out Jim Jordon for his lies

https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/runner%2F27707-Ted...