Bianca Williams partner stopped by police again

[jan8p]

CoolHands said:

Wonder if the officer(s) in the first car will get disciplinary for racially profiling him as the last lot did. Ie they pulled him over because it was 4am and they didn’t like the look of him and the using a phone was just an excuse.

Does tesla film inside too? To prove he never used his phone. He’s created a drama so I’m certain he wasn’t using it, if he had been he wouldn’t have done this.

Have you just made that up?

You'd be surprised at the amount of "drama" people create for minor road traffic offences when they are infact guilty. Most commonly is probably people requesting calibration certificates, officer training, etc etc for minor speeding infractions when infact they are guilty just they live in a world without personal responsibility.

[rxe]

Having seen the video, I have zero sympathy for the guy.

When a police car pulls in front of you with lights blazing and slows down, you stop.

If you pull round the outside of the car and drive off, you deserve everything you get. IMO the bloke needs a load of points for failing to stop, and given that it was a 20, probably speeding too.

Of course, social media will start screaming and the scrote will be let off.

[pavarotti1980]

jan8p said:

Have you just made that up?

You'd be surprised at the amount of "drama" people create for minor road traffic offences when they are infact guilty. Most commonly is probably people requesting calibration certificates, officer training, etc etc for minor speeding infractions when infact they are guilty just they live in a world without personal responsibility.

Normally egged on by Facebook lawyers who "no de law"

[yellowjack]

Earthdweller said:

CheesecakeRunner said:

Surely they see the registered keeper? And if what he says about him and his kids have records against them, then that’d pop up.

No it wouldn’t

In any case what relevance does it have an unidentified person in the vehicle committing an offence that the officers are dealing with in real time ?

Does having a previous “publicised” interaction with the police mean you can just do what you like with a “get out of jail free card” ?

Yup, imagine the frothing going on if the police had spotted the vehicle, identified a (suspected) driving offence, then done nothing to pull the car over, only to have the owner call 999 later to report it stolen, possibly even taken via a "home invasion" theft. Met Police: "Sorry sir, we didn't want to upset you by pulling you over again, especially after how it went down last time..."

[Greendubber]

Earthdweller said:

andyA700 said:

Really, given what happened the previous time, when both of them were handcuffed whilst the baby was left alone in the car. Do you think it is appropriate that seven police officers were sent to deal with this, you know, someone suspected of using their mobile phone whilst driving? Their three year old child's details are now on a police database - why?
The Met Police have a very bad history, very bad indeed and you don't need to scratch the surface very deeply to come up with absolute horror stories about them.
I would advise anyone to record any interaction like this one with police, because quite frankly, they cannot be trusted.

Let’s just put this into perspective

It was 4am .. officers in one car saw the Tesla being driven and believed the driver was using a mobile phone

They indicated for it to stop

The vehicle failed to stop and the officers in the first car called for advanced pursuit trained assistance (someone on Twitter has plotted the distance and it was about 2 miles)

When the advanced pursuit vehicles with pursuit trained officers arrived and signalled for the car to stop .. it didn’t

A Police Armed response vehicle overtook the car and slowed in front of it

The Tesla attempted to drive around the Police ARV

The Armed offficers were there as they were in

1. An advanced pursuit authorised vehicle
2. They are advanced trained drivers who are authorised to pursue

Summons him for using a phone (if he was) and failing to stop for police

Complete non story

Absolutely this.

What a complete moron.

[Cold]

Perhaps he could blame the Tesla's Autopilot?

[CoolHands]

jan8p said:

CoolHands said:

Wonder if the officer(s) in the first car will get disciplinary for racially profiling him as the last lot did. Ie they pulled him over because it was 4am and they didn’t like the look of him and the using a phone was just an excuse.

Does tesla film inside too? To prove he never used his phone. He’s created a drama so I’m certain he wasn’t using it, if he had been he wouldn’t have done this.

Have you just made that up?

You'd be surprised at the amount of "drama" people create for minor road traffic offences when they are infact guilty. Most commonly is probably people requesting calibration certificates, officer training, etc etc for minor speeding infractions when infact they are guilty just they live in a world without personal responsibility.

I think we have a misconception if you think I am making that up ie I am stating it as a fact. I mean it as a question - is it possible they used a ‘using your phone’ as an excuse to check the driver. Because I am thinking he must be very secure of his own actions (ie no phone) otherwise he wouldn’t make this so public surely.

[andyeds1234]

He didn’t pull over when requested. What did he expect to happen?

[Bigends]

CoolHands said:

jan8p said:

CoolHands said:

Wonder if the officer(s) in the first car will get disciplinary for racially profiling him as the last lot did. Ie they pulled him over because it was 4am and they didn’t like the look of him and the using a phone was just an excuse.

Does tesla film inside too? To prove he never used his phone. He’s created a drama so I’m certain he wasn’t using it, if he had been he wouldn’t have done this.

Have you just made that up?

You'd be surprised at the amount of "drama" people create for minor road traffic offences when they are infact guilty. Most commonly is probably people requesting calibration certificates, officer training, etc etc for minor speeding infractions when infact they are guilty just they live in a world without personal responsibility.

I think we have a misconception if you think I am making that up ie I am stating it as a fact. I mean it as a question - is it possible they used a ‘using your phone’ as an excuse to check the driver. Because I am thinking he must be very secure of his own actions (ie no phone) otherwise he wouldn’t make this so public surely.

He was released without any action being take i respect of mobile phone use, so yes, its possible that 'we thought you were on your phone' was used as an excuse for the stop. Though no reason is needed under the Road traffic act .

[98elise]

CooperD said:

I see loads of people driving whilst using their mobile phones. You're lucky to see one policeman let alone Seven!!

What about when someone fails to stop? Watch a few police interceptor type programs and you'll have an idea.

[Greendubber]

CoolHands said:

jan8p said:

CoolHands said:

Wonder if the officer(s) in the first car will get disciplinary for racially profiling him as the last lot did. Ie they pulled him over because it was 4am and they didn’t like the look of him and the using a phone was just an excuse.

Does tesla film inside too? To prove he never used his phone. He’s created a drama so I’m certain he wasn’t using it, if he had been he wouldn’t have done this.

Have you just made that up?

You'd be surprised at the amount of "drama" people create for minor road traffic offences when they are infact guilty. Most commonly is probably people requesting calibration certificates, officer training, etc etc for minor speeding infractions when infact they are guilty just they live in a world without personal responsibility.

I think we have a misconception if you think I am making that up ie I am stating it as a fact. I mean it as a question - is it possible they used a ‘using your phone’ as an excuse to check the driver. Because I am thinking he must be very secure of his own actions (ie no phone) otherwise he wouldn’t make this so public surely.

They don't need an excuse to check him, they can stop him under Sec 163 of the Road Traffic Act.

[darreni]

I've been driving for 30 odd years & have, on a few occasions, been signaled to stop by the police.

It's never, ever occurred to me to ignore that instruction & drive on.

[essayer]

Video 1 is middle lane on a DC (A4/A40?) and Video 2 is in a residential area, although they're presented as if they are consecutive, 'they pulled me over and immediately ran to bash in my window'

How far did he carry on driving after overtaking the police car in #1 ? Must have been a fair way..

[Greendubber]

essayer said:

Video 1 is middle lane on a DC (A4/A40?) and Video 2 is in a residential area, although they're presented as if they are consecutive, 'they pulled me over and immediately ran to bash in my window'

How far did he carry on driving after overtaking the police car in #1 ? Must have been a fair way..

Met press release says 5 minutes which gives plenty of time to get 2 other cars in place for vehicle tactics. Sadly he wants people to think 3 cars immediately swooped on him, the nasty police officers were just picking on him and he didn't fail to stop for 5 minutes.

[LukeBrown66]

Thing is, he tried to pull into other lanes etc, what are the plod going to think if someone does that, they don't care, they think someone is trying to avoid being pulled over.

I know the guy has an issue with the police, and maybe rightly, but a lot of what he did was not helping the situation either.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Drove on for 5mins? He wasn't on a motorway bereft of junctions.

[MrBarry123]

Absolutely zero sympathy for the chap here and I think the big mistake he has made on this occasion is presenting the incident in a way that suits his narrative, in comparison with the first incident which I seem to remember was left largely unedited.

[272BHP]

Surely they have him bang to rights for failing to stop and wasting police time? I would like to think the outcome of this is to ban him from driving for a reasonable period.

What could have been a 5min routine stop turned into something like 45mins of messing around and taking out 3 patrol cars from other duties. That isn't even mentioning the undoubted media fallout and subsequent required response from the Met. If people are allowed to ignore police instruction without repercussions the whole system falls over.

Get him into court.

[CoolHands]

He’ll get an apology

[untakenname]

Looks like the majority of people (bar a 'wellness Dr') are calling him out in his tweets

https://twitter.com/rdss400/status/155876024688089...

To to prevent riots whenever the Police in America deal with potential high profile incidents within hours they have posted the full bodycam footage online from the very start of the interaction so false narratives can be prevented, I'm not sure why the UK doesn't follow this lead.