Liz Truss Prime Minister
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smn159 said:
Really? I seem to remember that she reversed most of it herself, sacked Kwarteng herself, then had darling of the right Braverman declare that she didn't know what she was doing, before having most Conservative MPs submit letters of no confidence in her.
Was that all the fault of the media then? Do these people not have minds of their own?
It wasn’t the spending plans themselves that killed off the strategy, it was the incoming £60bn of Whitehall spending cuts that would have been announced in the following budget.Was that all the fault of the media then? Do these people not have minds of their own?
By removing tax and spending cuts as a strategy, it now leaves only one main strategy - tax and spend.
Who would want this and why is now a matter for historical debate but yes, the economist, FT and Guardian were not happy about it and neither were a good amount of Con. MPs.
As a result major tax and spending cuts have been buried from implementation for almost two government cycles, (around 8 years) and we ended up with a couple of non-elected technocrats running the country into the ground.
Nice little (long) write up on Truss.
‘She still carries an aura of spectacular failure’: why hasn’t Liz Truss gone away?
‘She still carries an aura of spectacular failure’: why hasn’t Liz Truss gone away?
nickfrog said:
julian987R said:
Completely the fault of the MSM. They have been infiltrated by metropolitan commies that have been engineering Labour into No 10 through insane levels of biassed opinion pieces and reporting.
Sorry but impossible for me to tell whether:1 - you actually believe what you wrote or...
2 - you don't and it's only provocative attention seeking
Which is it please?
Its actually quite impressive the way Julian has gradually ratcheted up the nonsense (in multiple threads) to the point that it's clearly all a wind up, and yet he still gets a rise out of his fellow NPE addicts
As an experiment. try ignoring him and see if you get the
treatment to drag you back in.... b
hstewie said:
hstewie said: Nice little (long) write up on Truss.
‘She still carries an aura of spectacular failure’: why hasn’t Liz Truss gone away?
She hasn't gone away because she was right , I know she was right, others know she was right and it's likely that time will demonstrate she was right.‘She still carries an aura of spectacular failure’: why hasn’t Liz Truss gone away?
Until then, it's down the helter skelter.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Nice little (long) write up on Truss.
‘She still carries an aura of spectacular failure’: why hasn’t Liz Truss gone away?
Written by a newspaper that barked on and on about slavery yet its founders were slave traders. Give me a break.‘She still carries an aura of spectacular failure’: why hasn’t Liz Truss gone away?
Carl_VivaEspana said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Nice little (long) write up on Truss.
‘She still carries an aura of spectacular failure’: why hasn’t Liz Truss gone away?
She hasn't gone away because she was right , I know she was right, others know she was right and it's likely that time will demonstrate she was right.‘She still carries an aura of spectacular failure’: why hasn’t Liz Truss gone away?
Until then, it's down the helter skelter.
Probably spend her days at half empty fringe events bemoaning how the 'communist' banks turned against her, aided and abetted by the woke BBC and dinner party attendees.
The tribal divide here seems to be a matter of whether an individual believes Trussenonics could have worked if all the financial types had dutifully sat on their hands; would growth have ridden to the rescue before the deficit became intolerable, or would, with consideration to the diverse headwinds, would have been a matter of piling up debt while the economy just continued to putter along (or worst, the fall-out mades the situation worse.
I can't really see how it would work, at least not in the window that was available. In a scenario like the one we have we might, at best have got a "bump" of growth from tax cuts and then a return to trend - as per the US in 2017/18; sometimes spending (or not taxing) isn't stimulus, it's just spending.
I can't really see how it would work, at least not in the window that was available. In a scenario like the one we have we might, at best have got a "bump" of growth from tax cuts and then a return to trend - as per the US in 2017/18; sometimes spending (or not taxing) isn't stimulus, it's just spending.
julian987R said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Nice little (long) write up on Truss.
‘She still carries an aura of spectacular failure’: why hasn’t Liz Truss gone away?
Written by a newspaper that barked on and on about slavery yet its founders were slave traders. Give me a break.‘She still carries an aura of spectacular failure’: why hasn’t Liz Truss gone away?
julian987R said:
Written by a newspaper that barked on and on about slavery yet its founders were slave traders. Give me a break.
Now that you're back, have you had a chance to think about an answer for that one please?nickfrog said:
julian987R said:
Completely the fault of the MSM. They have been infiltrated by metropolitan commies that have been engineering Labour into No 10 through insane levels of biassed opinion pieces and reporting.
Sorry but impossible for me to tell whether:1 - you actually believe what you wrote or...
2 - you don't and it's only provocative attention seeking
Which is it please?
Randy Winkman said:
I see from Wiki that The Guardian was founded in 1821. What are they supposed to do about things that happened back then?
Of course! And the same could be said for so much - but that doesn't stop the Labour metropolitan commies trying to cancel history. You have just proved my point. nickfrog said:
julian987R said:
Written by a newspaper that barked on and on about slavery yet its founders were slave traders. Give me a break.
Now that you're back, have you had a chance to think about an answer for that one please?nickfrog said:
julian987R said:
Completely the fault of the MSM. They have been infiltrated by metropolitan commies that have been engineering Labour into No 10 through insane levels of biassed opinion pieces and reporting.
Sorry but impossible for me to tell whether:1 - you actually believe what you wrote or...
2 - you don't and it's only provocative attention seeking
Which is it please?
julian987R said:
Randy Winkman said:
I see from Wiki that The Guardian was founded in 1821. What are they supposed to do about things that happened back then?
Of course! And the same could be said for so much - but that doesn't stop the Labour metropolitan commies trying to cancel history. You have just proved my point. julian987R said:
Randy Winkman said:
Which is?
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