Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

[Seasonal Hero]

'Reds'

Mummy there's a commie in my bed

[DeejRC]

Britain isn’t broken, but gosh we need to have an honest conversation amongst ourselves about the country. What do we want, where do we want to go, how do we get there, how do we afford, what services do we wish to regard as core, what are the priorities for funding, etc etc.

I’ve stated many times I don’t think SKS will be a very radical leader, nor will his party be very radical in power. I just don’t see they will have the room to manoeuvre to do so. Nor do I think he is of that ilk. If the country wishes things to start getting better though, then it needs to start having those conversations above and the politicians leading them. I think SKS could do himself a power of good and his position of both PM and leader of the LP if he initiated them. Personally I think the country would engage with him, rather than run a mile.

I think the opposite for Rishi!

[President Merkin]

DeejRC said:

Britain isn’t broken

This is a matter of perspective. I suspect a lot of people on here are living comfortable lives, doing well, bobbing along nicely. I would class my family in that strata of society. Until that is, my 82 year old mum slipped at the theatre & broke her arm. This happened a mile from A&E. The staff called 999 for an ambulance & were quoted a 12 hour wait. In the end, my brother fetched her & ran her to hospital where she waited nine hours for treatment.

If you want an honest conversation, then it begins with accepting yours is not the only experience. From my viewpoint Britain is very broken and getting worse and I have direct ^^^^ evidence.

[Tom8]

President Merkin said:

DeejRC said:

Britain isn’t broken

This is a matter of perspective. I suspect a lot of people on here are living comfortable lives, doing well, bobbing along nicely. I would class my family in that strata of society. Until that is, my 82 year old mum slipped at the theatre & broke her arm. This happened a mile from A&E. The staff called 999 for an ambulance & were quoted a 12 hour wait. In the end, my brother fetched her & ran her to hospital where she waited nine hours for treatment.

If you want an honest conversation, then it begins with accepting yours is not the only experience. From my viewpoint Britain is very broken and getting worse and I have direct ^^^^ evidence.

I don't disagree with your sentiments but one point. If you were a mile away from a hospital and it was a broken arm, why would you call an ambulance? Why not just jump in the car you went in or grab a cab? We all know the stretch on ambulances which in theory are for life and deaths.

[Seasonal Hero]

Because you might not know it’s just the arm with someone that old. You tend to not throw an 82 year-old into a car.

[blueg33]

DeejRC said:

Britain isn’t broken

It may not be broken but the list of things that are worse now than they were 10 years ago is pretty long.

Just a few examples:

Access to dentistry
Adult Mental Health Services
Child Mental Health Services
NHS service generally
Potholes
Rubbish Collections
Taxation highest since the end of WW2
Ability to get on the housing ladder
Social housing supply
Planning timescales and red tape
Inflation
Interest rates
Asylum seekers risking life in the channel
Time to process asylum seekers
Wasting public money on PPE that doesn't work but was supplied by your mates
Wasting public money on idiocy like Rwanda scheme
ID requirement for voting
st trade deals

etc, etc etc

[lauda]

President Merkin said:

Tom8 said:

We all know the stretch on ambulances which in theory are for life and deaths.

Tell you what mate, I'll call your mum an Uber next time she breaks a leg, see how you like it. Tosser.

And they don't work for life and death cases either. I managed to break my shoulder blade, collar bone, seven ribs and puncture my lung last year. I was told it would be up to a five hour wait for an ambulance.

I ended up in intensive care for five days when I finally got to hospital.

[Gecko1978]

said:

yeah you dont know its a broken arm so you dont move them and as per your tale she waited 9 hours in A and E. Care for the elderly is poor honestly makes me wish I die before my 80s as I see how my grandparents are treated

[DeejRC]

President Merkin said:

DeejRC said:

Britain isn’t broken

This is a matter of perspective. I suspect a lot of people on here are living comfortable lives, doing well, bobbing along nicely. I would class my family in that strata of society. Until that is, my 82 year old mum slipped at the theatre & broke her arm. This happened a mile from A&E. The staff called 999 for an ambulance & were quoted a 12 hour wait. In the end, my brother fetched her & ran her to hospital where she waited nine hours for treatment.

If you want an honest conversation, then it begins with accepting yours is not the only experience. From my viewpoint Britain is very broken and getting worse and I have direct ^^^^ evidence.

I rather suspect I have vastly more direct NHS experience than you over the last few yrs, to the point of effectively being season ticket holders in two different hospitals at different ends of the country. Stroke, terminal cancer, remission cancer and smashed up hips in case you were wondering. I can report on differing levels of service from having a case to sue, to downright excellent.
Congratulations, we all have an NHS story to tell.

[S600BSB]

blueg33 said:

DeejRC said:

Britain isn’t broken

It may not be broken but the list of things that are worse now than they were 10 years ago is pretty long.

Just a few examples:

Access to dentistry
Adult Mental Health Services
Child Mental Health Services
NHS service generally
Potholes
Rubbish Collections
Taxation highest since the end of WW2
Ability to get on the housing ladder
Social housing supply
Planning timescales and red tape
Inflation
Interest rates
Asylum seekers risking life in the channel
Time to process asylum seekers
Wasting public money on PPE that doesn't work but was supplied by your mates
Wasting public money on idiocy like Rwanda scheme
ID requirement for voting
st trade deals

etc, etc etc

Broken and broke sadly. What an awful legacy of 14 years of Tory mismanagement.

[carlo996]

Seasonal Hero said:

Because you might not know it’s just the arm with someone that old. You tend to not throw an 82 year-old into a car.

God help anyone relying upon you in a tight spot.

[Seasonal Hero]

carlo996 said:

God help anyone relying upon you in a tight spot.

Are you honestly that stupid?

The idea that you don’t assess someone fully and if uncertain leave them for a professional at the age of 82 seems totally lost on you. But yeah, just chuck them in a cab when you have zero idea of the full injuries. It’s not an 18 year old we’re talking about here. Use your brain.

How you go from that to what you said is off the scale mental. Your posts are becoming increasingly unhinged. Some time offline is a good idea for you.

[carlo996]

Seasonal Hero said:

I love how our resident right-wingers are of course blaming that on the doctors and nurses.

Are you really this obtuse? Unfortunately for our nation it is full of thickos that honestly believe that a. It’s all ‘someones’ fault, and that their chosen cheek of the same arse will magically fix everything. Remarkably there are many who can see through the extremists on both sides, of which you are one

[Seasonal Hero]

carlo996 said:

Are you really this obtuse? Unfortunately for our nation it is full of thickos that honestly believe that a. It’s all ‘someones’ fault, and that their chosen cheek of the same arse will magically fix everything. Remarkably there are many who can see through the extremists on both sides, of which you are one

See my post above. As for you calling someone extremist

[Seasonal Hero]

carlo996 said:

Unfortunately for our nation it is full of thickos

Something you manage to prove daily.

[Wombat3]

blueg33 said:

DeejRC said:

Britain isn’t broken

It may not be broken but the list of things that are worse now than they were 10 years ago is pretty long.

Just a few examples:

Access to dentistry
Adult Mental Health Services
Child Mental Health Services
NHS service generally
Potholes
Rubbish Collections
Taxation highest since the end of WW2
Ability to get on the housing ladder
Social housing supply
Planning timescales and red tape
Inflation
Interest rates
Asylum seekers risking life in the channel
Time to process asylum seekers
Wasting public money on PPE that doesn't work but was supplied by your mates
Wasting public money on idiocy like Rwanda scheme
ID requirement for voting
st trade deals

etc, etc etc

Yet record taxes, and spending AND high levels of borrowing.

So what 's the answer? because changing the colour of the rosettes in #10 surely isn't going to achieve very much but kick the can further down the road.

As above, it needs a different kind of conversation and some harsh truths about what we can afford. Do you think the electorate really has the stomach for that?

(clue: None of the politicians do which is why none of them are really talking about it).

Its really easy to blame the Government for everything "because they are in charge" but the reality is that public expectation exceeds reasonable levels (of what is affordable) by some margin.

You can also understand why none of them are taking the bull by the horns. The performance of the economy and the workforce is in no small part linked to confidence & optimism. If you tell everyone things are going to be a bit st for quite a long time then it doesn't do much for productivity.

Edited by Wombat3 on Wednesday 27th March 16:52

[F1GTRUeno]

Britain is very much broken and asking for an honest conversation when saying it isn't is a bit silly.

[carlo996]

Seasonal Hero said:

Something you manage to prove daily.

It’s not me who believes the next government will improve matters. Still, I guess all you need is a little hope?

[carlo996]

Wombat3 said:

Yet record taxes, and spending AND high levels of borrowing.

So what 's the answer? because changing the colour of the rosettes in #10 surely isn't going to achieve very much but kick the can further down the road.

As above, it needs a different kind of conversation and some harsh truths about what we can afford. Do you think the electorate really has the stomach for that?

(clue: None of the politicians do which is why none of them are really talking about it).

Its really easy to blame the Government for everything "because they are in charge" but the reality is that public expectation exceeds reasonable levels (of what is affordable) by some margin.

You can also understand why none of them are taking the bull by the horns. The performance of the economy and the workforce is in no small part linked to confidence & optimism. If you tell everyone things are going to be a bit st for quite a long time then it doesn't do much for productivity.

Edited by Wombat3 on Wednesday 27th March 16:52

Exactly.
And those crying about fixing services will be the first to complain when they get stung with taxes. Of course it’ll be the previous lot, and the previous lot previously. It’s all a bit much for them.

[Rufus Stone]

carlo996 said:

It’s not me who believes the next government will improve matters. Still, I guess all you need is a little hope?

I'll settle for stopping the rot for now.