Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

[bitchstewie]

Wombat3 said:

A bizarre chain of thought.

I'd have thought that with the levels of righteous indignation you have shown over (most) misdemeanours in public life you'd leading the charge to want to understand whether Rayner is telling the truth or not!

P'raps you are just as guilty of having blinkers on as some of those you delight in accusing multiple times a day?

This is the first thing I said on the Rayner thread.

"If there's any sign of wrongdoing they should investigate and take the appropriate action."

Not silence followed by "Can't change what went before. What happens next is not so fixed."

Apologies if I've missed a long history of you calling out all the bent st the current lot have been up to.

Really not sure I have though.

[Dave200]

Looks like Rishi's stance on the war on the motorist isn't going to be as popular as he'd hoped. Love the fact that they set out to prove something and tried to bury the report when it proved the opposite.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/lo...

[s1962a]

bhstewie said:

s1962a said:

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/both-mp...

article said:

Tory MPs who spent several hours ‘talking out’ a bill to make upskirting a criminal offence in 2018 have now been knighted for their ‘services to public life’.


“Do not underestimate just how furious many Tory MPs are about this. This kind of thing does far more damage to the public’s view of our party than endless debates about customs arrangements,” Paul Masterton MP tweeted.

Wait they gave Chope a knighthood?

Looks like they are trying to squeeze out as much as they can before they get wiped out for a generation.

[bitchstewie]

s1962a said:

Looks like they are trying to squeeze out as much as they can before they get wiped out for a generation.

This guy?

Tory MP Christopher Chope blocks progress of upskirting bill

Tory MP who blocked upskirting bill halts FGM protection law

He's appalling.

I wonder how they're going to spin giving him a Knighthood.

[Wombat3]

bhstewie said:

Wombat3 said:

A bizarre chain of thought.

I'd have thought that with the levels of righteous indignation you have shown over (most) misdemeanours in public life you'd leading the charge to want to understand whether Rayner is telling the truth or not!

P'raps you are just as guilty of having blinkers on as some of those you delight in accusing multiple times a day?

This is the first thing I said on the Rayner thread.

"If there's any sign of wrongdoing they should investigate and take the appropriate action."

Not silence followed by "Can't change what went before. What happens next is not so fixed."

Apologies if I've missed a long history of you calling out all the bent st the current lot have been up to.

Really not sure I have though.

Righteous indignation is not really my thing, I leave that to you

[Earthdweller]

Dave200 said:

Looks like Rishi's stance on the war on the motorist isn't going to be as popular as he'd hoped. Love the fact that they set out to prove something and tried to bury the report when it proved the opposite.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/lo...

I think the key wording there is that is was a sample of people inside the LTN’s, and a majority liked them, which I’d say is entirely unsurprising

[biggbn]

bhstewie said:

s1962a said:

Looks like they are trying to squeeze out as much as they can before they get wiped out for a generation.

This guy?

Tory MP Christopher Chope blocks progress of upskirting bill

Tory MP who blocked upskirting bill halts FGM protection law

He's appalling.

I wonder how they're going to spin giving him a Knighthood.

Aw c'mon, stop being righteously indignant. Look at the unique way the party is funded.. this kids small fry...

[Garvin]

Wombat3 said:

I do love a bit of conspiracy theory

I am being told that it’s Turbo that’s supposed to be unhinged . . .

[julian987R]

bhstewie said:

This guy?

Tory MP Christopher Chope blocks progress of upskirting bill

Tory MP who blocked upskirting bill halts FGM protection law

He's appalling.

I wonder how they're going to spin giving him a Knighthood.

A day doesn’t go by without them royally screwing up. Who is signing off on these decisions?!

[hidetheelephants]

The director of the Campaign to Abolish the House of Lords by the look of things.

[carlo996]

Wombat3 said:

bhstewie said:

Wombat3 said:

A bizarre chain of thought.

I'd have thought that with the levels of righteous indignation you have shown over (most) misdemeanours in public life you'd leading the charge to want to understand whether Rayner is telling the truth or not!

P'raps you are just as guilty of having blinkers on as some of those you delight in accusing multiple times a day?

This is the first thing I said on the Rayner thread.

"If there's any sign of wrongdoing they should investigate and take the appropriate action."

Not silence followed by "Can't change what went before. What happens next is not so fixed."

Apologies if I've missed a long history of you calling out all the bent st the current lot have been up to.

Really not sure I have though.

Righteous indignation is not really my thing, I leave that to you

[DeejRC]

This £5m bloke - is it an 1 off donation of £5m? Is it multiple donations of £5m over time? Is it multiple donations over time that add up to £5m? How long ago was this dosh given? I’m vaguely presuming he didn’t just bung em £5m last week?

(I neither know nor am fussed about the Ange stuff)

[biggbn]

DeejRC said:

This £5m bloke - is it an 1 off donation of £5m? Is it multiple donations of £5m over time? Is it multiple donations over time that add up to £5m? How long ago was this dosh given? I’m vaguely presuming he didn’t just bung em £5m last week?

(I neither know nor am fussed about the Ange stuff)

He has written in his will that the party receive £1 per year for 5 million years.

[anonymoususer]

biggbn said:

DeejRC said:

This £5m bloke - is it an 1 off donation of £5m? Is it multiple donations of £5m over time? Is it multiple donations over time that add up to £5m? How long ago was this dosh given? I’m vaguely presuming he didn’t just bung em £5m last week?

(I neither know nor am fussed about the Ange stuff)

He has written in his will that the party receive £1 per year for 5 million years.

It will all get very messy. His family may contest the will. Does he not like his family ?
The more I hear about this chap the less I like him. I feel a bit used having initially thought of him as a good chap supporting the party her feels is best. Now I feel he may be simply trying to cause trouble for the conservatives by involving them in a family dispute.
My advice to Rishi would be to give the money back. If he has spent it on tory stuff he should give him an IOU guaranteed by Grant Shapps.

[DeejRC]

Ooo I like the IOU idea

[hidetheelephants]

Does get signed just by Grant or do the other 3 have to sign it as well?

[biggbn]

anonymoususer said:

biggbn said:

DeejRC said:

This £5m bloke - is it an 1 off donation of £5m? Is it multiple donations of £5m over time? Is it multiple donations over time that add up to £5m? How long ago was this dosh given? I’m vaguely presuming he didn’t just bung em £5m last week?

(I neither know nor am fussed about the Ange stuff)

He has written in his will that the party receive £1 per year for 5 million years.

It will all get very messy. His family may contest the will. Does he not like his family ?
The more I hear about this chap the less I like him. I feel a bit used having initially thought of him as a good chap supporting the party her feels is best. Now I feel he may be simply trying to cause trouble for the conservatives by involving them in a family dispute.
My advice to Rishi would be to give the money back. If he has spent it on tory stuff he should give him an IOU guaranteed by Grant Shapps.

They are already paying back Hester's donation at £1 per year for 10 million years, another £1 a year would bring them to their knees

[EddieSteadyGo]

bhstewie said:

s1962a said:

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/both-mp...

article said:

Tory MPs who spent several hours ‘talking out’ a bill to make upskirting a criminal offence in 2018 have now been knighted for their ‘services to public life’.


“Do not underestimate just how furious many Tory MPs are about this. This kind of thing does far more damage to the public’s view of our party than endless debates about customs arrangements,” Paul Masterton MP tweeted.

Wait they gave Chope a knighthood?

Let's not start clutching our pearls .... Chope was nominated for his knighthood in 2017 *before* the upskirting debate in 2018. Whether you like him or not, he has been an MP for over three decades. And MPs with extensive service on all sides often get nominated for a knighthood.... it is about the only 'perk' they get (if you consider that kind of thing important).

The quote from Paul Masterton was from 2018, and is not recent.

And Phillip Davies spoke in favour in the voyeurism act when it was debated. And it become law anyway in 2019.

https://www.philip-davies.org.uk/news/philip-respo...

[anonymoususer]

[quote=hidetheelephants]Does get signed just by Grant or do the other 3 have to sign it as well? [

I was only aware of another 2 names ?
If there is a third then it just goes to show that the very best people want to join the tories.
On the other hand it's been a great week for Grant Shapps he hasn't put a reported foot wrong. He may not have stepped outside his house all week but that's not the point.
In the event that Rishi is forced out of office by other spineless MP's who want to get rid of their leader a replacement must be able to take over.
There is a wealth of talent within the Tory party (just as there is in the Labour and Lib Dem parties). This pool of potential leaders will need to be narrowed down and Grant may well be the best replacement leader.
By staying out of trouble he may be best placed to be the man who saved the Tories.

[AW111]

captain_cynic said:

Thats why Turbo's been quiet. He has gathered a cult of fellow unhinged in that thread and can't risk having that account banned. I'm convinced he has alt accounts, Wombat3 seems the obvious one, same posting style, same kind of bks.

Nah, Wombat's posts are coherent.