Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister
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anonymoususer said:
I'm not one to bring up old news but the recent revelation that Harold Wilson had an affair with his deputy press secretary is sure to make lot of voters think twice about voting for Labour
Admittedly pretty much all of the 1974 to 1979 Labour Government cabinet have either become Lords or passed over to be with the Lord. It's not so much about who knew what it's more the principle.
Today there will be a lot of people who may have been tempted to vote Labour who will be having second thoughts.
To many people the news will mean that they associate Labour with sleaze and extra marital hanky panky. This will mean lost votes for Labour and a chance - a real chance that the Conservative vote holds firm bringing Rishi back at the next election with a slim overall majority.
A valid point. I also hear that Lloyd George was very wayward as well so that might be the Liberals done for as well.Admittedly pretty much all of the 1974 to 1979 Labour Government cabinet have either become Lords or passed over to be with the Lord. It's not so much about who knew what it's more the principle.
Today there will be a lot of people who may have been tempted to vote Labour who will be having second thoughts.
To many people the news will mean that they associate Labour with sleaze and extra marital hanky panky. This will mean lost votes for Labour and a chance - a real chance that the Conservative vote holds firm bringing Rishi back at the next election with a slim overall majority.
Those looking for a "back to basics" approach will have to vote Conservative.
anonymoususer said:
I'm not one to bring up old news but the recent revelation that Harold Wilson had an affair with his deputy press secretary is sure to make lot of voters think twice about voting for Labour
Admittedly pretty much all of the 1974 to 1979 Labour Government cabinet have either become Lords or passed over to be with the Lord. It's not so much about who knew what it's more the principle.
Today there will be a lot of people who may have been tempted to vote Labour who will be having second thoughts.
To many people the news will mean that they associate Labour with sleaze and extra marital hanky panky. This will mean lost votes for Labour and a chance - a real chance that the Conservative vote holds firm bringing Rishi back at the next election with a slim overall majority.
I've still not forgiven John Profumo for lying to parliament about shagging a debutante. Admittedly pretty much all of the 1974 to 1979 Labour Government cabinet have either become Lords or passed over to be with the Lord. It's not so much about who knew what it's more the principle.
Today there will be a lot of people who may have been tempted to vote Labour who will be having second thoughts.
To many people the news will mean that they associate Labour with sleaze and extra marital hanky panky. This will mean lost votes for Labour and a chance - a real chance that the Conservative vote holds firm bringing Rishi back at the next election with a slim overall majority.
President Merkin said:
4% wiped of GDP, failed trade deals,reputational damage, self imposed economic sanctions, relentless political chaos As I said, only a zealot can support this.
A wide variety of statistics would suggest its nowhere near as grim as you like to portray. My view on it all aligns pretty much perfectly with Andy's. Its not all roses, but neither would it have been had we stayed in (not by a long stretch). Beyond that, subsequent global events make direct measurement (such as you cite) almost impossible now anyway. The world has moved on in a multitude of ways.So you can either sit there in the corner with your blinkers on, staring at your navel whilst grumbling to yourself about the injustice of it all (and manufacturing and embelishing to suit your narrative) or you can take the blinkers off and look upwards and outwards and get on with life.
The latter is probably more productive, pragmatic and generally useful
Wombat3 said:
A wide variety of statistics would suggest its nowhere near as grim as you like to portray. My view on it all aligns pretty much perfectly with Andy's. Its not all roses, but neither would it have been had we stayed in (not by a long stretch). Beyond that, subsequent global events make direct measurement (such as you cite) almost impossible now anyway. The world has moved on in a multitude of ways.
So you can either sit there in the corner with your blinkers on, staring at your navel whilst grumbling to yourself about the injustice of it all (and manufacturing and embelishing to suit your narrative) or you can take the blinkers off and look upwards and outwards and get on with life.
The latter is probably more productive, pragmatic and generally useful
Brexit: I can't think of any positives and things are definitely worse, but I don't know how much worse because - you know - global stuff. Just think happy thoughts.So you can either sit there in the corner with your blinkers on, staring at your navel whilst grumbling to yourself about the injustice of it all (and manufacturing and embelishing to suit your narrative) or you can take the blinkers off and look upwards and outwards and get on with life.
The latter is probably more productive, pragmatic and generally useful
Catchy...
Wombat3 said:
A wide variety of statistics would suggest its nowhere near as grim as you like to portray. My view on it all aligns pretty much perfectly with Andy's. Its not all roses, but neither would it have been had we stayed in (not by a long stretch). Beyond that, subsequent global events make direct measurement (such as you cite) almost impossible now anyway. The world has moved on in a multitude of ways.
Is this based on your deep and intimate knowledge of the mathematics and statistical techniques underpinning modern econometrics, or a gut feel that you can't figure out what might have happened so no one else can?President Merkin said:
4% wiped of GDP, failed trade deals,reputational damage, self imposed economic sanctions, relentless political chaos As I said, only a zealot can support this.
Pretty vague examples of the ‘disaster’ you claim brexit is. Would anything in the uk be better now if we were still in. I vote no. Riff Raff said:
Wombat3 said:
A wide variety of statistics would suggest its nowhere near as grim as you like to portray. My view on it all aligns pretty much perfectly with Andy's. Its not all roses, but neither would it have been had we stayed in (not by a long stretch). Beyond that, subsequent global events make direct measurement (such as you cite) almost impossible now anyway. The world has moved on in a multitude of ways.
Is this based on your deep and intimate knowledge of the mathematics and statistical techniques underpinning modern econometrics, or a gut feel that you can't figure out what might have happened so no one else can?
TTwiggy said:
How’s net migration looking by comparison ? Control of boarders was apparently a big Brexit driver.
Enough of your public school fantasies, Control of borders however or the lack of it is just one of the reasons why the tories are heading for a monumental loss of seats at the next election.
Edited by Vanden Saab on Thursday 11th April 21:19
CoolHands said:
TTwiggy said:
How’s net migration looking by comparison ? Control of boarders was apparently a big Brexit driver.
It wouldn’t be any better if we were in the EU. It’s got steadily worse regardless of being in or out the EU and is same for European countries captain_cynic said:
CoolHands said:
TTwiggy said:
How’s net migration looking by comparison ? Control of boarders was apparently a big Brexit driver.
It wouldn’t be any better if we were in the EU. It’s got steadily worse regardless of being in or out the EU and is same for European countries hidetheelephants said:
captain_cynic said:
CoolHands said:
TTwiggy said:
How’s net migration looking by comparison ? Control of boarders was apparently a big Brexit driver.
It wouldn’t be any better if we were in the EU. It’s got steadily worse regardless of being in or out the EU and is same for European countries The brexit thread thread will go on forever. Brexiteers will pat themselves on the back for winning democracy and stating how they are happy with how everything is turning out because they get better sleep - while not being able to give a measurable improvement in anything to back it all up. Then you open a Tory/Reform thread and read how everything's a disaster and the government hasn't given them what they want.
Edited by Killboy on Thursday 11th April 21:48
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