Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister
Discussion
turbobloke said:
Boringvolvodriver said:
BigMon said:
Just listening to Sunak's press conference about flights to Rwanda and I'm sat here open mouthed in disbelief.
Is this honestly at the forefront of the mind of the British voter and an election winning campaign to differentiate the Tories from Labour?
It's odd, but I'd quite like to know how we're going to improve the efficiency of the NHS, whether or not my pension will be put back to 71, and whether some of the potholes I almost vanished into this weekend are going to be repaired to name but three. Flights to Rwanda aren't up there if I'm honest.
What makes it worse, if that is possible, is that the Rwanda plan is (and I am being kind to those few people who think it is a good idea) extremely unlikely to actually stop the boats. I am amazed that a man who is supposedly intelligent can actually stand there and spout nonsense.Is this honestly at the forefront of the mind of the British voter and an election winning campaign to differentiate the Tories from Labour?
It's odd, but I'd quite like to know how we're going to improve the efficiency of the NHS, whether or not my pension will be put back to 71, and whether some of the potholes I almost vanished into this weekend are going to be repaired to name but three. Flights to Rwanda aren't up there if I'm honest.
It's close at 37:40 ignoring the don't knows.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-result...
Got to love a poll.
xstian said:
Sure, when it gives a 28% figure which also shows a previous claim for "those few" is wide of the mark. Single figures would just about pass as "those few" but 28% reflected nationally is over 13 million people with 46.6 million people registered to vote. Never before in the field of PH discussions have so many people been wrongly portrayed as so few.That was the point I replied to and "those few" remains inaccurate including based on the poll you cited.
sugerbear said:
Dont worry, the Tories are saved !!!
Rishi says that the first Rwanda fligths are only 10 to 12 weeks away. Phew.. for a moment I thought he might not be elected at the next general election.
He has played a blinder and I expect that the polls will show a complete reversal in 10 to 12 weeks time.
Probably.
Yep, the sight off refugees being herded onto rendition flights to a third world sRishi says that the first Rwanda fligths are only 10 to 12 weeks away. Phew.. for a moment I thought he might not be elected at the next general election.
He has played a blinder and I expect that the polls will show a complete reversal in 10 to 12 weeks time.
Probably.
thole will surely warm the hearts of the faithful turbobloke said:
Those few people? Ho Ho Ho. Before being kind try being accurate!
It's close at 37:40 ignoring the don't knows.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-result...
Hang on - haven' t you spent the last few years telling us the 52 vs 48 was a massive win and remainers have to suck it up?It's close at 37:40 ignoring the don't knows.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-result...
My irony meter just shattered
Sunak set out clear objectives and is putting policies in place which he thinks will help to meet those objectives, and not one of his many detracrors can say for sure in advance whether any policy will help with any objective, or not. Naturally their assumption is 'not'. Either way, the short time interval running up to the next general election leaves little room for him to make up the gap seen in recent polling, no matter how fragile Labour's lead is.
blueg33 said:
turbobloke said:
Those few people? Ho Ho Ho. Before being kind try being accurate!
It's close at 37:40 ignoring the don't knows.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-result...
Hang on - haven' t you spent the last few years telling us the 52 vs 48 was a massive win and remainers have to suck it up?It's close at 37:40 ignoring the don't knows.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-result...
blueg33 said:
My irony meter just shattered
As above, it can't have been due to brexit thread content so that must be another of your false assumptions / strawmen / hyperbolic offerings. 
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tory-candida...
Tory councillor applicant was one a BNP members list.
Tory councillor applicant was one a BNP members list.
anonymoususer said:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tory-candida...
Tory councillor applicant was one a BNP members list.
The brightest and the best. Tory councillor applicant was one a BNP members list.
Surely a glorious career in Reform now beckons?
S600BSB said:
Even the King described the plan as awful. Awful and a huge waste of money would be more accurate.
We'll now you've said that, I guess that seals everything.I mean, "The King"! What greater authority could there be on anything (unless you have a direct line to God himself?).
So, what is the solution to the boats problem?
Everyone's a critic but no solutions.
Possibly there is no solution.
We can't stop them coming and we can't really send them back.
Is it a big issue?
Yes, because the media makes it a big issue and joe public is not intelligent enough to see past the media rubbish.
Everyone's a critic but no solutions.
Possibly there is no solution.
We can't stop them coming and we can't really send them back.
Is it a big issue?
Yes, because the media makes it a big issue and joe public is not intelligent enough to see past the media rubbish.
philv said:
So, what is the solution to the boats problem?
Everyone's a critic but no solutions.
Possibly there is no solution.
We can't stop them coming and we can't really send them back.
Is it a big issue?
Yes, because the media makes it a big issue and joe public is not intelligent enough to see past the media rubbish.
The solution is to make an agreement with France to host a properly funded Aslyum Processing Center on French soil that provides a safe route to claiming Asylum in the UK. Everyone's a critic but no solutions.
Possibly there is no solution.
We can't stop them coming and we can't really send them back.
Is it a big issue?
Yes, because the media makes it a big issue and joe public is not intelligent enough to see past the media rubbish.
Process applications while the Asylum Seekers are in France, and do so fairly and in accordance to our commitments in international treaties.Those with genuine claims will want to go through the official route and not risk their lives on rubber dinghys.
The people smugglers then left with those who want to enter the UK illegally without intention to claim asylum. These can be turned back to France, or arrested if they reach British waters/soil and returned the Asylum Processing center in France.
Rivenink said:
The solution is to make an agreement with France to host a properly funded Aslyum Processing Center on French soil that provides a safe route to claiming Asylum in the UK.
Process applications while the Asylum Seekers are in France, and do so fairly and in accordance to our commitments in international treaties.Those with genuine claims will want to go through the official route and not risk their lives on rubber dinghys.
The people smugglers then left with those who want to enter the UK illegally without intention to claim asylum. These can be turned back to France, or arrested if they reach British waters/soil and returned the Asylum Processing center in France.
Or we could provide a safe route and process them on UK soil.Process applications while the Asylum Seekers are in France, and do so fairly and in accordance to our commitments in international treaties.Those with genuine claims will want to go through the official route and not risk their lives on rubber dinghys.
The people smugglers then left with those who want to enter the UK illegally without intention to claim asylum. These can be turned back to France, or arrested if they reach British waters/soil and returned the Asylum Processing center in France.
Rivenink said:
philv said:
So, what is the solution to the boats problem?
Everyone's a critic but no solutions.
Possibly there is no solution.
We can't stop them coming and we can't really send them back.
Is it a big issue?
Yes, because the media makes it a big issue and joe public is not intelligent enough to see past the media rubbish.
The solution is to make an agreement with France to host a properly funded Aslyum Processing Center on French soil that provides a safe route to claiming Asylum in the UK. Everyone's a critic but no solutions.
Possibly there is no solution.
We can't stop them coming and we can't really send them back.
Is it a big issue?
Yes, because the media makes it a big issue and joe public is not intelligent enough to see past the media rubbish.
Process applications while the Asylum Seekers are in France, and do so fairly and in accordance to our commitments in international treaties.Those with genuine claims will want to go through the official route and not risk their lives on rubber dinghys.
The people smugglers then left with those who want to enter the UK illegally without intention to claim asylum. These can be turned back to France, or arrested if they reach British waters/soil and returned the Asylum Processing center in France.
You don't think that hasn't been tried?
And when the foreign office are trying to sabotage efforts (long suspected this).
Should we have Rishi and his cabinet processing the applications in their spare time?
The problem is not the current government.
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