Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

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Rufus Stone

6,315 posts

57 months

Sunday 28th April
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Sunak pleased that asylum seekers are potentially leaving the UK for elsewhere. What a disgusting excuse for a human being he is.

bitchstewie

51,510 posts

211 months

Sunday 28th April
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Even if it's Ireland.

Same mentality as some of the people on here which is fk everyone else I just don't want them in my back yard.

Rwanda plan: Irish government wants to send asylum seekers back to UK

eccles

13,742 posts

223 months

Sunday 28th April
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Last Visit said:
bhstewie said:
Poulter said:
"The difficulty for the Conservative Party is that the party I was elected into valued public services... it had a compassionate view about supporting the more disadvantaged in society.

"I think the Conservative Party today is in a very different place."
Can't really argue with any of that.
Indeed. He's my MP and having met him a couple of times he comes across as a decent chap trying to do the right thing. His intimate knowledge of the NHS certainly gives credibility to his comments.
That's just it, he comes across as a nice chap but he's not well liked locally.
As you know he was one of the loudest shouting to block the Ipswich northern bypass because it came near his house.

He opened a friends care farm (for people with mental health issues and learning dis), gave a long speech about how vital the mental health services are, then went and voted against proposed improvements to mental health services in parliament the following week!

Nope, this isn't something noble about caring for the NHS, this is about reading the writing on the wall and wanting to keep his snout in the trough.

cb31

1,144 posts

137 months

Sunday 28th April
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bhstewie said:
Even if it's Ireland.

Same mentality as some of the people on here which is fk everyone else I just don't want them in my back yard.

Rwanda plan: Irish government wants to send asylum seekers back to UK
So it's ok for Ireland to want to send asylum seekers back to the UK but it's not ok for UK to send them back to France? Double standards?

blueg33

36,043 posts

225 months

Sunday 28th April
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cb31 said:
bhstewie said:
Even if it's Ireland.

Same mentality as some of the people on here which is fk everyone else I just don't want them in my back yard.

Rwanda plan: Irish government wants to send asylum seekers back to UK
So it's ok for Ireland to want to send asylum seekers back to the UK but it's not ok for UK to send them back to France? Double standards?
I think you need a parrot

smn159

12,748 posts

218 months

Sunday 28th April
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eccles said:
Nope, this isn't something noble about caring for the NHS, this is about reading the writing on the wall and wanting to keep his snout in the trough.
Except that he's standing down at the next election

bitchstewie

51,510 posts

211 months

Sunday 28th April
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Jenrick on Kuenssberg this morning.

Man who ordered that officials paint over murals intended to cheer up vulnerable migrant children says it's "plain wrong" that the Conservatives don't care about the disadvantaged.

blueg33

36,043 posts

225 months

Sunday 28th April
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bhstewie said:
Jenrick on Kuenssberg this morning.

Man who ordered that officials paint over murals intended to cheer up vulnerable migrant children says it's "plain wrong" that the Conservatives don't care about the disadvantaged.
They really are special!

eccles

13,742 posts

223 months

Sunday 28th April
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smn159 said:
eccles said:
Nope, this isn't something noble about caring for the NHS, this is about reading the writing on the wall and wanting to keep his snout in the trough.
Except that he's standing down at the next election
boxedin

smn159

12,748 posts

218 months

Sunday 28th April
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bhstewie said:
Even if it's Ireland.

Same mentality as some of the people on here which is fk everyone else I just don't want them in my back yard.

Rwanda plan: Irish government wants to send asylum seekers back to UK
I wonder if the UK can be considered a safe country, given that they will try and send them on to Rwanda?

Derek Smith

45,761 posts

249 months

Sunday 28th April
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Fermit said:
Same. The bd is going for low hanging fruit
Give the bloke a break. He has to go for stuff low-hanging. He's only short.

What we are seeing is electioneering. There's no plan to it all. If he sees something that might gain a few votes, he's for it. His plans were solely to attack the traffickers. They were the only target. Oh, look, they are running off to Ireland. That shows his plan is working.

Earthdweller

13,609 posts

127 months

Sunday 28th April
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smn159 said:
bhstewie said:
Even if it's Ireland.

Same mentality as some of the people on here which is fk everyone else I just don't want them in my back yard.

Rwanda plan: Irish government wants to send asylum seekers back to UK
I wonder if the UK can be considered a safe country, given that they will try and send them on to Rwanda?
The Irish Supreme Court has ruled the U.K. is not a safe country to send people back too

It’s kind of ironic that the Irish Gov is trying to create a border on the island so they can deport people over it

Secondly how can an EU state return to people to the U.K. when the U.K. can’t return people to the EU


It strikes me more that the Irish comments are for internal consumption after yet more anti migrant riots this week and McEntee being under serious criticism at home


I think the U.K. stance is quite simple .. if we can send all the migrants from the EU back then we will take those from the U.K. back, but then send them onwards back to France

James6112

4,424 posts

29 months

Sunday 28th April
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Earthdweller said:
The Irish Supreme Court has ruled the U.K. is not a safe country to send people back too

It’s kind of ironic that the Irish Gov is trying to create a border on the island so they can deport people over it

Secondly how can an EU state return to people to the U.K. when the U.K. can’t return people to the EU


It strikes me more that the Irish comments are for internal consumption after yet more anti migrant riots this week and McEntee being under serious criticism at home


I think the U.K. stance is quite simple .. if we can send all the migrants from the EU back then we will take those from the U.K. back, but then send them onwards back to France
It’s not the same though.
The migrants arriving in Ireland have arrived from a non-EU country (Northern Ireland)
Much the same as those arriving in Italy from Libya etc.
The EU are trying to shut down migration from non-EU countries, which includes us.

Mr Penguin

1,269 posts

40 months

Sunday 28th April
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Does anyone else think the defection seems odd? Usually these are announced at a big press conference to get maximum impact but this news was very quietly released with no breaking news banner on the BBC. Even on here it is a side topic. You could easily miss it on both the Guardian and The Times websites.

JagLover

42,491 posts

236 months

Sunday 28th April
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Mr Penguin said:
Does anyone else think the defection seems odd? Usually these are announced at a big press conference to get maximum impact but this news was very quietly released with no breaking news banner on the BBC. Even on here it is a side topic. You could easily miss it on both the Guardian and The Times websites.
Been in discussion for months and no doubt timed to get the Sunday news shows and papers in advance of local elections.

biggbn

23,556 posts

221 months

Sunday 28th April
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nigelpugh7 said:
Then you have this from Penny Mordaunt.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13340197/...
This Penny Mordaunt? Just another lying, self serving politician sadly. Stand up and fight... smile

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/n...

Deliberately provided a Mail link so I'm not accused of being a communist....

bitchstewie

51,510 posts

211 months

Sunday 28th April
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I'm just listening to Iain Dale on LBC and they're talking about the Poulter defection.

Interestingly he says he knows a lot of Labour politicians and privately a lot tell him that Mordaunt is the only name they "fear" when it comes to whether the Conservatives fortunes will change before an election.

smn159

12,748 posts

218 months

Sunday 28th April
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biggbn said:
nigelpugh7 said:
Then you have this from Penny Mordaunt.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13340197/...
This Penny Mordaunt? Just another lying, self serving politician sadly. Stand up and fight... smile

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/n...

Deliberately provided a Mail link so I'm not accused of being a communist....
The Mail wanted someone from the loon wing (Truss) in 2022, therefore Mordaunt exaggerated her Navy credentials and wasn't to be trusted.

Now that they want Sunak out she's an insightful military strategist

The opinions in the Mail change with the wind - anyone getting their views there want their heads testing.

biggbn

23,556 posts

221 months

Sunday 28th April
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smn159 said:
The Mail wanted someone from the loon wing (Truss) in 2022, therefore Mordaunt exaggerated her Navy credentials and wasn't to be trusted.

Now that they want Sunak out she's an insightful military strategist

The opinions in the Mail change with the wind - anyone getting their views there want their heads testing.
Oh, 100% agree. I'd hoped my post worked on that level? An ability to practice hypocrisy without any self awareness is essential if you are playing King maker...

Gecko1978

9,763 posts

158 months

Sunday 28th April
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Rufus Stone said:
Sunak pleased that asylum seekers are potentially leaving the UK for elsewhere. What a disgusting excuse for a human being he is.
Why? They are here possibly illegally, having left other safe nations, our nation is no longer the best option in their opinion. So what as well as letting them enter we stop them leaving.