Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

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Gecko1978

9,763 posts

158 months

Sunday 28th April
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James6112 said:
It’s not the same though.
The migrants arriving in Ireland have arrived from a non-EU country (Northern Ireland)
Much the same as those arriving in Italy from Libya etc.
The EU are trying to shut down migration from non-EU countries, which includes us.
They will face same issue "prove they came from the UK" they can't legally dump people in a different country so like us will be stuck with them

anonymoususer

5,876 posts

49 months

Sunday 28th April
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There are rumours going around from impeccable sources * that an election date could be announced tomorrow Monday 29th April.

I urge anyone reading this to vote for a soft Labour type government. One that interferes/ assists its public. The type that has a socialist type background.
Whether you choose Labour or the current Conservatives is of course a matter of personal; choice.

  • Nadine Dorries, Alastair Campbell

hidetheelephants

24,577 posts

194 months

Sunday 28th April
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anonymoususer said:
There are rumours going around from impeccable sources * that an election date could be announced tomorrow Monday 29th April.

I urge anyone reading this to vote for a soft Labour type government. One that interferes/ assists its public. The type that has a socialist type background.
Whether you choose Labour or the current Conservatives is of course a matter of personal; choice.

  • Nadine Dorries, Alastair Campbell
I'd like to vote for the Labour govt of 1945 please, I'll be waiting for my call-up papers and defence spending to increase to 6.5% hehe.

CoolHands

18,729 posts

196 months

Sunday 28th April
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July election I reckon

valiant

10,320 posts

161 months

Sunday 28th April
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CoolHands said:
July election I reckon
He’ll wait until after the May locals and then announce a date

smn159

12,749 posts

218 months

Sunday 28th April
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I reckon that he'll go early after the May elections so that the plotters have less time to oust him

abzmike

8,443 posts

107 months

Sunday 28th April
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It’s all very strange…
Call an election tomorrow, what signal does that send to voters on Thursday?
Have a mare on Thursday, call an election right after, does that confirm that they are doomed in the GE?
If he does either is there time for the party to go into the election with a new leader?
Having gone on to now, it would seem to make sense to me to carry on until year end, when the economy will be rocking, weekly flights to Rwanda, Labour tripping over themselves in the queue. Of course, he could grow a backbone and tell anyone trying to oust him that they’ll face an immediate election, and take their chances.

Mr Penguin

1,269 posts

40 months

Sunday 28th April
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abzmike said:
It’s all very strange…
Call an election tomorrow, what signal does that send to voters on Thursday?
Have a mare on Thursday, call an election right after, does that confirm that they are doomed in the GE?
If he does either is there time for the party to go into the election with a new leader?
Having gone on to now, it would seem to make sense to me to carry on until year end, when the economy will be rocking, weekly flights to Rwanda, Labour tripping over themselves in the queue. Of course, he could grow a backbone and tell anyone trying to oust him that they’ll face an immediate election, and take their chances.
If he announces the date tomorrow then it starts to reframe the question in voters minds from "do I like Sunak/Conservatives" (which is a clear no) to "do I want Labour to run the country instead" (which the answer is less clear but still not yes).

Announcing the date just after the election will be a mistake IMO and it will make him look reactive and weak or opportunistic if they do better than expected.

It also means that any plotters are a bit stumped because everyone will start talking about the general election and not them.

DeejRC

5,834 posts

83 months

Sunday 28th April
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Why in the name of hell would you announce the GE after the May elections? Whether they went well or badly for you? That would be one of the dumbest tactical political decisions you could possibly make. You would have to be the thickest fkwit in the room to consider that path. I know that No10 has an appalling track record of political management recently, but when it comes to GEs they are generally reasonably competent as Lynton tells them what to do.

hidetheelephants

24,577 posts

194 months

Sunday 28th April
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DeejRC said:
Why in the name of hell would you announce the GE after the May elections? Whether they went well or badly for you? That would be one of the dumbest tactical political decisions you could possibly make. You would have to be the thickest fkwit in the room to consider that path. I know that No10 has an appalling track record of political management recently, but when it comes to GEs they are generally reasonably competent as Lynton tells them what to do.
What difference does it make? They're toast regardless of when the election is called, the tories would do better to just save Lynton's consultancy fee and take the pain.

Mr Penguin

1,269 posts

40 months

Monday 29th April
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Doing it afterwards makes it look like he's not in control and that's what he wants to avoid more than anything at the moment.

smn159

12,749 posts

218 months

Monday 29th April
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So what? His actions make it pretty clear that he's not in control anyway

President Merkin

3,109 posts

20 months

Monday 29th April
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DeejRC said:
Why in the name of hell would you announce the GE after the May elections? Whether they went well or badly for you? That would be one of the dumbest tactical political decisions you could possibly make...
Nailed on then if his political nouse is any guide.

Lots of hot takes on how a PM 20 points behind in the polls is about to call a GE. He really isn't.

captain_cynic

12,105 posts

96 months

Monday 29th April
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President Merkin said:
Nailed on then if his political nouse is any guide.

Lots of hot takes on how a PM 20 points behind in the polls is about to call a GE. He really isn't.
Yep, I said it before but Sunak and the Tories are going to try to stay in power as long as possible because they know they've lost. Plenty of earth to scorch before December.

The only way an election could be called early is if Rishi wanted to give a two fingered salute on his way out the door but given how gutless and sycophantic he's been this far it's very unlikely.

smn159

12,749 posts

218 months

Monday 29th April
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captain_cynic said:
The only way an election could be called early is if Rishi wanted to give a two fingered salute on his way out the door but given how gutless and sycophantic he's been this far it's very unlikely.
Quite. If he had any sort of a spine at all he would have told the headbangers to FRO with their Rwanda nonsense and concentrated on stuff that matters to real people, rather than trying to appease clueless Daily Mail reading culture warriors.

S600BSB

4,782 posts

107 months

Monday 29th April
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abzmike said:
It’s all very strange…
Call an election tomorrow, what signal does that send to voters on Thursday?
Have a mare on Thursday, call an election right after, does that confirm that they are doomed in the GE?
If he does either is there time for the party to go into the election with a new leader?
Having gone on to now, it would seem to make sense to me to carry on until year end, when the economy will be rocking, weekly flights to Rwanda, Labour tripping over themselves in the queue. Of course, he could grow a backbone and tell anyone trying to oust him that they’ll face an immediate election, and take their chances.
Great to hear that Labour will inherit an economy that will be “rocking”. Hadn’t expected that tbh.

z4RRSchris

11,338 posts

180 months

Monday 29th April
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why the hell would anyone want to be leader now, for a few months when your going to be kicked out when you lose to one of the largest majorities ever.

nothing will change tory wise, the locals and london mayoral will be a bloodbath.

JagLover

42,492 posts

236 months

Monday 29th April
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S600BSB said:
Great to hear that Labour will inherit an economy that will be “rocking”. Hadn’t expected that tbh.
Well not rocking, but growth next year is forecast to be better and there is a strong expectation of a few cuts in interest rates this year.

https://www.ey.com/en_uk/news/2024/04/uk-economy-g...

The problem is that waiting for things to improve to make a noticeable difference means a winter election.


S600BSB

4,782 posts

107 months

Monday 29th April
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JagLover said:
S600BSB said:
Great to hear that Labour will inherit an economy that will be “rocking”. Hadn’t expected that tbh.
Well not rocking, but growth next year is forecast to be better and there is a strong expectation of a few cuts in interest rates this year.

https://www.ey.com/en_uk/news/2024/04/uk-economy-g...

The problem is that waiting for things to improve to make a noticeable difference means a winter election.
My money is still on October.

GetCarter

29,410 posts

280 months

Monday 29th April
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S600BSB said:
JagLover said:
S600BSB said:
Great to hear that Labour will inherit an economy that will be “rocking”. Hadn’t expected that tbh.
Well not rocking, but growth next year is forecast to be better and there is a strong expectation of a few cuts in interest rates this year.

https://www.ey.com/en_uk/news/2024/04/uk-economy-g...

The problem is that waiting for things to improve to make a noticeable difference means a winter election.
My money is still on October.
..and while we are talking about money. He's paying 23% tax and I'm paying 43%.

Oh.. and he made an extra £109 million during the pandemic.

Nice work Rishi. Glad you have our backs.