FTX/Sam Bankman-Fried

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Condi

17,219 posts

172 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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cc3 said:
U.S. authorities have very long arms if they want to find a way to lock him up they will.
Yes, although Argentina is about as safe as anywhere! Unfortunately their US website is down so it's impossible to see what licences they do hold.

I think the SEC and CFTC are very much in "have to be seen to be doing something" mode, rather than anything else though.

cc3

2,797 posts

117 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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Condi said:
cc3 said:
U.S. authorities have very long arms if they want to find a way to lock him up they will.
Yes, although Argentina is about as safe as anywhere! Unfortunately their US website is down so it's impossible to see what licences they do hold.

I think the SEC and CFTC are very much in "have to be seen to be doing something" mode, rather than anything else though.
They will be interested if a family member of US Congress or Senate has lost some big bucks !

Sixsixtysix

2,704 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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bitchstewie

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51,371 posts

211 months

SWoll

18,437 posts

259 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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bhstewie said:
There's definitely going to be a movie made about this.
yes

I imagine Netflix are already writing the screenplay for the docuseries.

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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Well she sounds like a good professional who would be trusted to manage your billions - https://twitter.com/QTRResearch/status/15912522234...

Was she on a gap year?

TopTrump

3,228 posts

175 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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Crypto- the digital Emperor's clothes/ Pyramid scheme

loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Saturday 12th November 2022
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Crypto is a great way of destroying lots of the capital created through QE.

Carl_Manchester

12,230 posts

263 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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SWoll said:
Crypto is a huge scam shocker..
I don't think is related entirely to 'Crypto', its just that the Volcker rule does not apply to International Crypto exchanges. That is why, I think that the money held on FTX U.S (and not FTX International) is not as effected.

This is a fast-forward replay of almost every Investment Bank in 2008.

If you give young people billions of other peoples money to place bets, eventually, they run out of luck.

People should go to prison, whether they will is not clear because its not yet clear what laws they have broken.

Personally, if I were one of the inner-circle FTX bod at the top of all this, I would be more worried about people that have lost their life savings rather than, the CIA.


Gecko1978

9,726 posts

158 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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Carl_Manchester said:
I don't think is related entirely to 'Crypto', its just that the Volcker rule does not apply to International Crypto exchanges. That is why, I think that the money held on FTX U.S (and not FTX International) is not as effected.

This is a fast-forward replay of almost every Investment Bank in 2008.

If you give young people billions of other peoples money to place bets, eventually, they run out of luck.

People should go to prison, whether they will is not clear because its not yet clear what laws they have broken.

Personally, if I were one of the inner-circle FTX bod at the top of all this, I would be more worried about people that have lost their life savings rather than, the CIA.
I would be worried about the "sort" of people who have lost money they may not be the type to use the courts

brickwall

5,250 posts

211 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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Sounds like SBF (the CEO) transferred a few $bn of client funds across to his Bahamas-based trading arm (Alameda) whereupon they gambled and lost.

Carl_Manchester

12,230 posts

263 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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Gecko1978 said:
I would be worried about the "sort" of people who have lost money they may not be the type to use the courts
Exactly.

bitchstewie

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51,371 posts

211 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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Some of the stuff you come across about FTX is unreal hehe

https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/15439652535238...

The Hypno-Toad

12,287 posts

206 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
Hardly surprising, if you look at all the Crypto sponsors of F1 teams every single one of them would have made no money on an investment. - https://twitter.com/FormulaNetflix/status/15905091...
But I bet all their CEOs had premium tickets & passes for Monaco. And let's face it, that's what any F1 sponsorship like this has always been about.

Moneytron, Rich Energy, Shannon, Parmalat..... & they're just the ones we know about.

Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Sunday 13th November 11:37

pquinn

7,167 posts

47 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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bhstewie said:
Some of the stuff you come across about FTX is unreal hehe

https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/15439652535238...
The Larry David one on the other hand aged well.

bitchstewie

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51,371 posts

211 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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Didn't it just.

And that's the problem you have when you have celebrities being paid more than most people will ever earn in their lives to promote and endorse people putting large chunks of their life savings into these largely unregulated products.

What could possibly go wrong with that.

Rick1.8t

1,463 posts

180 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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When Bitcoin first emerged it was always drummed into those that held it to use their own coin storage - that's how you had that guy trying to sift through the tip to look for his old laptop with millions of pounds of coin on it.

What has happened over the years and as Bitcoin has become popular outside of the nerd circles is the rise of the crypto exchange and now people dabbling just buy on an online exchange and never take their coins off the exchange for storage as they should.

The exchanges are behaving in the same way as banks do, they don't have enough cash to back up the coins held - if there is a run on the bank type situation they are essentially fked, just like the banks would if everyone tried to withdraw cash.

The 'bro investors' are getting burned, I can see more of this coming in the near future, another exchange has made an 'accidental' ETH transfer to the wrong address (another exchange curiously) worth $400mil, its a house of cards / ponzy scheme due for collapse.

Petrus1983

8,759 posts

163 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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Mr Wonderful ( Kevin O'Leary ) obviously got sucked in too - he was on TikTok this morning saying a bunch of people would be flying to Washington to demand reform.

glazbagun

14,281 posts

198 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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pquinn said:
bhstewie said:
Some of the stuff you come across about FTX is unreal hehe

https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/15439652535238...
The Larry David one on the other hand aged well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH5-rSxilxo

laugh Liked that. Plus the constitution bit.

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Sunday 13th November 2022
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Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger on crypto currencies in 2018.

https://twitter.com/Stephen_Geiger/status/15915024...