Nurses, Rail Staff and Now Driving Examiners

[Gecko1978]

So according to the BBC (link below) driving examiners are going to strike now. So is ot a case of masses of workers are under paid and have been for a long time, taxes reduce take home pay too much or are they all just greedy.

I suspect its 1 and 2 but where will this end, will all sorts of workers up and down the country strike now will the UK really start to go all French every year with mass strikes. Will they government look at taxes on employment will thoes in the middle get some relief or will it all be brushed under the carpet.

BBC News - Driving examiners across UK to stage strikes over pay
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63800593

[pequod]

Union pressure to bring down the Tory Government. This is just the latest iteration.

HTH

[Super Sonic]

pequod said:

Union pressure to bring down the Tory Government. This is just the latest iteration.

HTH

It's not the unions that are bringing the government down, it's the government.

[pequod]

Super Sonic said:

It's not only the unions that are bringing the government down, it's the Europhiles.

EFA

[Vasco]

A - Driving instructors going on strike will only affect a minute % of people
B - Rail strikes only affect 10-20% of UK travellers
C - Nurses can affect any of us.

The government only needs to resolve 'C'.

[Electro1980]

pequod said:

Union pressure to bring down the Tory Government. This is just the latest iteration.

HTH

Let’s see, what is more likely:

a) a wide range of very different unions are, after 14 years, only now trying to bring down the government, by getting members from vastly different sectors and unions to all vote for strive action.
b) people are fed up with 14 years of real terms pay cuts.

[ruggedscotty]

what raises expenses do MP's get ?

no wonder the general public are fed up.... all were doing is working to pay bills.....

[abzmike]

Vasco said:

A - Driving instructors going on strike will only affect a minute % of people
B - Rail strikes only affect 10-20% of UK travellers
C - Nurses can affect any of us.

The government only needs to resolve 'C'.

It’s in the government’s interest not to resolve any disputes, and use the disruptions as a stick to beat the Labour Party. They are shaping it as a new class war, but I don’t think the electorate will buy it this time.

Edited by abzmike on Tuesday 29th November 22:57

[ChocolateFrog]

Vasco said:

A - Driving instructors going on strike will only affect a minute % of people
B - Rail strikes only affect 10-20% of UK travellers
C - Nurses can affect any of us.

The government only needs to resolve 'C'.

Only if you rely on the NHS.

So a small percentage of MPs.

[Getragdogleg]

The only ones I have any sympathy for is the nurses, in the case of the train lot the ones i know are on a really cushy number and should sit down and shut up.

[maddog993]

You can add Ambulance staff to the list...
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/nov/29/am...

[Terminator X]

Vasco said:

A - Driving instructors going on strike will only affect a minute % of people
B - Rail strikes only affect 10-20% of UK travellers
C - Nurses can affect any of us.

The government only needs to resolve 'C'.

Ah I'm alright jack as I don't travel into London.

TX.

[mattyprice4004]

pequod said:

Super Sonic said:

It's not only the unions that are bringing the government down, it's the Europhiles.

EFA

If that Brexit bus with £350million a week for the NHS had ever turned up, we’d have enough money to avoid the strikes

[Ridgemont]

Electro1980 said:

pequod said:

Union pressure to bring down the Tory Government. This is just the latest iteration.

HTH

b) people are fed up with 14 years of real terms pay cuts.

Errr. Welcome to the rest of our reality…

[Oliver Hardy]

Getragdogleg said:

The only ones I have any sympathy for is the nurses, in the case of the train lot the ones i know are on a really cushy number and should sit down and shut up.

I guess it is why theu have so many vacancies.

[Kermit power]

I'd be interested to know how many people are actually impacted by any of these strikes?

There was a time long, long ago before home broadband when a rail strike would've represented a bonus day off; now its just means WFH like the majority of other days.

I did notice a Royal Mail strike when a parking pass for a rugby match failed to materialise in time, but calling customer services to get one emailed to me wasn't the end of the world.

Beyond that, I'm not aware of having been in any way inconvenienced.

[Vasco]

Kermit power said:

I'd be interested to know how many people are actually impacted by any of these strikes?

There was a time long, long ago before home broadband when a rail strike would've represented a bonus day off; now its just means WFH like the majority of other days.

I did notice a Royal Mail strike when a parking pass for a rugby match failed to materialise in time, but calling customer services to get one emailed to me wasn't the end of the world.

Beyond that, I'm not aware of having been in any way inconvenienced.

Likewise, I can't think of any impact at all. The bulk of the population never use trains and the mail deliveries have been unpredictable for years, so few people will be affected by those strikes.
The nurses, and emergency services generally, are a very different matter.

[Electro1980]

Ridgemont said:

Electro1980 said:

pequod said:

Union pressure to bring down the Tory Government. This is just the latest iteration.

HTH

b) people are fed up with 14 years of real terms pay cuts.

Errr. Welcome to the rest of our reality…

So? If you’re happy to do the same work for less money that’s not my problem.

[anonymous-user]

I think that people in the public sector are fed up seeing their pay fall behind when times are good and private sector wages increase ahead of inflation, bolstered by employee share schemes etc yet when things are not so rosy they have to share the pain.

Also how many nurses were furloughed? The pay review body is far from independent, and with an essentially monopolistic employer it’s a dysfunctional negotiation.

The thing is, with vacancies so high the shoe is on the other foot, and having finally voted to strike a line has been crossed. The relationship has probably been changed permanently now. Well done government! Talk of legislation to ban key workers striking and of vocation just tubs salt in the wound.

Remember the 15% rise in barristers public fees a curved by striking? Why wouldn’t the nurses (and other key workers) expect similar? The country can of course afford it, it’s just a question of priorities.

[PurplePangolin]

Tobermory said:

I think that people in the public sector are fed up seeing their pay fall behind when times are good and private sector wages increase ahead of inflation, bolstered by employee share schemes etc yet when things are not so rosy they have to share the pain.

Also how many nurses were furloughed? The pay review body is far from independent, and with an essentially monopolistic employer it’s a dysfunctional negotiation.

The thing is, with vacancies so high the shoe is on the other foot, and having finally voted to strike a line has been crossed. The relationship has probably been changed permanently now. Well done government! Talk of legislation to ban key workers striking and of vocation just tubs salt in the wound.

Remember the 15% rise in barristers public fees a curved by striking? Why wouldn’t the nurses (and other key workers) expect similar? The country can of course afford it, it’s just a question of priorities.

With regard to your last sentence, please show your workings. What would be of a lesser priority?