Nurses, Rail Staff and Now Driving Examiners
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irc said:
MiniMan64 said:
You’re having a laugh right?
I am having a laugh. I'm laughing at teachers giving the kids higher grades after they missed months of school.Two options. Missing school doesn't matter or teachers can't grade kids accurately.
As I said. Marking their own homework.
vulture1 said:
of course appart from getting into top top universities grades don't matter 1 tiny bit in life.
Inaccurate grades don't help anyone. In any case these days grades are not what they used to be. One top university in Scotland won't accept law students unless they come from a deprived background. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-e...
pingu393 said:
poo at Paul's said:
pablo said:
Next time you’re in A&E, tell the paramedics and nursing staff they’re not worth £2k a month whilst you cling to the fact that they are the only ones who can keep you or a loved one alive…..
So, everyone is an and e is going to die then? And has their lives saved by someone on less than 24k a year. ….Right
More hyperbolic nonsense.
Edited by poo at Paul's on Wednesday 8th February 20:11
One guy had a small fishing hook in his thumb. Another had cut his thumb on a kitchen knife.
I didn't see the knife cut, but he was acting quite normally. My message to the fishing hook guy - man the f
k up. Cut the hook with a pair of pliers and pull it through.poo at Paul's said:
pablo said:
Next time you’re in A&E, tell the paramedics and nursing staff they’re not worth £2k a month whilst you cling to the fact that they are the only ones who can keep you or a loved one alive…..
So, everyone is an and e is going to die then? And has their lives saved by someone on less than 24k a year. ….Right
More hyperbolic nonsense.
Edited by poo at Paul's on Wednesday 8th February 20:11
By your “logic”, should we pay them less based on severity of incident they attend and potential loss of life? Only dealt with minor car crashes and cuts and bruises this month? £1k for you sunshine….
poo at Paul's said:
mikal83 said:
Oh it was "a joke"...........oh OK.
Ask your mummy to explain it to you, maybe? Let us all praise the re self appointed joke police person. Where should be submit our humorous offerings for your approval?
The full address please.
I have Mrs B Chop, 49 Walt Street, Safespace, Wokesville, but need the postcode.
CoolHands said:
How do you know their grades were inaccurate, since they never sat the exams? Logic fail
Keep up at the back. The link I posted upthread shows grades increasing when they were guessed by teachers during Covid then going back down post Covid when reality came back. Must be magic. Grades go up when no exams are sat then immediately back down when they are established by exams and not guessed by teachers.
https://news.stv.tv/scotland/exam-pass-rates-impro...
Of course maybe they were accurate during Covid and the kids somehow became a bit stupider later when they had to sit exams. What do you thing?
Downward said:
So the news today said the Fire Service has agreed a 7% pay rise back dated to last July.
Assume the rest of the Public Sector will get the same ?
The fire service seem to have a different pay rise date, so not the same. The nurses are striking over a pay award from 1 April last year I think. The nurses may well be offered a similar percentage just more applying from 1 April 2023. Assume the rest of the Public Sector will get the same ?
JagLover said:
Downward said:
So the news today said the Fire Service has agreed a 7% pay rise back dated to last July.
Assume the rest of the Public Sector will get the same ?
The fire service seem to have a different pay rise date, so not the same. The nurses are striking over a pay award from 1 April last year I think. The nurses may well be offered a similar percentage just more applying from 1 April 2023. Assume the rest of the Public Sector will get the same ?
Most i’ve seen is 10% over 3 years in 2000.
irc said:
MiniMan64 said:
You’re having a laugh right?
I am having a laugh. I'm laughing at teachers giving the kids higher grades after they missed months of school.Two options. Missing school doesn't matter or teachers can't grade kids accurately.
As I said. Marking their own homework.
Students are humans that have bad days.
Teachers don't account for a kid that hasn't committed to the final revision sessions, or has had a bad night sleep, or has stressed out through the exam, or just misinterpreted what was required of them.
Hence estimated grades taken across a population will nearly always be higher than real grades. Only using a randomised performance factor would correct that.
Downward said:
No chance they will get 7%.
Most i’ve seen is 10% over 3 years in 2000.
The firemen have been offered 7% July 2022 and 5% July 2023. So I think there is every chance that those with pay awards in April of each year will be offered larger pay rises from April 2023 than they were from April 2022. This is partly an issue of how long it takes to set pay in the public sector and backdating the award by so much. Most i’ve seen is 10% over 3 years in 2000.
I wondered why 7% might be a magic number:
Or maybe they're drafting resignation letters having found a better job somewhere else?
Or giving themselves a pat on the back for shouldering the burden of pay restraint to do their bit to hold down inflation for the greater good?
Office for National Statistics said:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/uklabourmarket/january2023
Growth in average total pay (including bonuses) and regular pay (excluding bonuses) among employees was the same at 6.4% in September to November 2022; for regular pay, this is the strongest growth rate seen outside of the coronavirus pandemic period. Average regular pay growth for the private sector was 7.2% in September to November 2022, and 3.3% for the public sector. Outside of the height of the coronavirus pandemic period, this is the largest growth rate seen for the private sector.
In real terms (adjusted for inflation) over the year, total and regular pay both fell by 2.6%. This is slightly smaller than the record fall in real regular pay we saw in April to June 2022 (3.0%), but still remains among the largest falls in growth since comparable records began in 2001.
I'm guessing the many who've posted on this thread to say that they've never had a payrise because no-one in the Private Sector gets payrises are, even now, beating a path to their manager's door wearing their hardest negotiation face?Growth in average total pay (including bonuses) and regular pay (excluding bonuses) among employees was the same at 6.4% in September to November 2022; for regular pay, this is the strongest growth rate seen outside of the coronavirus pandemic period. Average regular pay growth for the private sector was 7.2% in September to November 2022, and 3.3% for the public sector. Outside of the height of the coronavirus pandemic period, this is the largest growth rate seen for the private sector.
In real terms (adjusted for inflation) over the year, total and regular pay both fell by 2.6%. This is slightly smaller than the record fall in real regular pay we saw in April to June 2022 (3.0%), but still remains among the largest falls in growth since comparable records began in 2001.
Or maybe they're drafting resignation letters having found a better job somewhere else?
Or giving themselves a pat on the back for shouldering the burden of pay restraint to do their bit to hold down inflation for the greater good?
BBC News - Consultants want up to £262 an hour to cover strike days for junior doctors
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64827246
So pro rata 0.5m a year (in the extreme example)....can't help think that maybe banning Dr's working via own limited company has resulted in agencies demanding these rates....blame the government. Simply tax people to the point they don't feel rewarded they withdraw services and then when you need them shock horror the number they ask for is way more than you would have had to pay
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-64827246
So pro rata 0.5m a year (in the extreme example)....can't help think that maybe banning Dr's working via own limited company has resulted in agencies demanding these rates....blame the government. Simply tax people to the point they don't feel rewarded they withdraw services and then when you need them shock horror the number they ask for is way more than you would have had to pay
Downward said:
There’s a lot of Private sector companies making millions in profit from supplying the Public Sector. So a lot give their staff good pay rises and bonus.
Wife’s company give a Christmas bonus worth 5%, Payrise upto 5% and 2 cost of living bonus of £750 to help staff with fuel bills.
The telecom companies are all putting their prices up 15% or so around about now so their staff must be doing OK.Wife’s company give a Christmas bonus worth 5%, Payrise upto 5% and 2 cost of living bonus of £750 to help staff with fuel bills.
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