Lee Anderson MP

[NerveAgent]

cayman-black said:

lauda said:

Why would you want no foreigners?

I take it smn meant illegal migrants, not law abiding working Foreigners.

I took it as smn taking the piss out of reform voters…

[bad company]

MrBogSmith said:

Reading their website is like gammon bingo. The party for those who've failed at life and need to blame others for their own failure

Seriously!!!!

A LOT of people will vote Reform for a variety of reasons. I doubt they’ll get any MP’s after the GE mind.

[crankedup5]

S600BSB said:

crankedup5 said:

Starmer, such a politically honest upstanding chap, problem is even he doesn’t know what his politics are. Supporting Corbyn, a Hamas supporting nutter and batste crazy policy ideas which drove the Labour Party to its worst electoral defeat since 1935. Labour can’t decide what it is they want to present to the electorate and keep flip flopping in and out of policy ideas. Not insignificant ideas either, for example their green growth plan. Let’s be honest, if the Tories were not completely fooked inside out Labour wouldn’t have a slightest smell of electoral victory. Why vote for that? Forty years of failures between them and people still vote for more of that!

Bit tired that Crank. Time for your morning nap?

Only just got out of bed
Facts, which I know lefties love so much. I will be repeating this same message for the benefit of new posters in this forum

[W124]

tangerine_sedge said:

W124 said:

It’s much, much more than a fringe vote, this time.

Much more than UKIP? Everyone is pissed off with the tories that's clear, but that's translated to the votes from the middle bit of the bell curve (i.e. most of the voters) going to labour/lib-dem and only the far end of the curve (those who don't think the tories are batst mental enough) moving to reform.

People are ready for a steady hand on the tiller, not more "moon on a stick" promises...

Yes, much more than UKIP. And rightly so. People can vote for whatever reasons they like.

It’s this patronising nonsense that led, directly, to Brexit. Which has been a bloody disaster.

The calculation for Tory MP’s is whether they think they have more of a chance of retaining their seats under the Reform Banner. It’s looking very marginal just now.

[Killboy]

More choice is always a good thing!

[crankedup5]

tangerine_sedge said:

crankedup5 said:

Starmer, such a politically honest upstanding chap, problem is even he doesn’t know what his politics are. Supporting Corbyn, a Hamas supporting nutter and batste crazy policy ideas which drove the Labour Party to its worst electoral defeat since 1935. Labour can’t decide what it is they want to present to the electorate and keep flip flopping in and out of policy ideas. Not insignificant ideas either, for example their green growth plan. Let’s be honest, if the Tories were not completely fooked inside out Labour wouldn’t have a slightest smell of electoral victory. Why vote for that? Forty years of failures between them and people still vote for more of that!

Has reform paid you as much as they've paid 30p Lee? You certainly are putting in a shift on their behalf...

Your continued "they're all as bad as each other" routine is getting boring now - its time for reform to tell you the new messaging you need to push.

The truth is best policy, so I will continue on that basis, bored - scroll past. New posters on the forum need to be considered.

[tangerine_sedge]

Sticks. said:

tangerine_sedge said:

People are ready for a steady hand on the tiller, not more "moon on a stick" promises...

Is this a quote from Cameron just before the Brexit referendum?

I'm not sure a referendum on a single issue is quite the same as an election for a new government

But, notice that UKIP/Brexit party didn't translate their distributed voters into more than a couple of seats across any of the elections/by-elections they stood in. The similarity of all these parties is that they appeal to the same demographic each time, and each time fail to achieve very much at the ballot box. This time will be no different as much as a vocal minority here argue otherwise.

[ZedLeg]

Every election we have some fringe party picking up the dregs of the other ones and the same crowd will say it’s going to shake up politics. It never does, it’s a scam.

[Countdown]

Lee Anderson called a 'p***k' during Sky News report

Apparently Jeremy Hunt texted him to sympathise.

[Vanden Saab]

ZedLeg said:

Every election we have some fringe party picking up the dregs of the other ones and the same crowd will say it’s going to shake up politics. It never does, it’s a scam.

Did you vote for the SNP?

[Vanden Saab]

President Merkin said:

Vanden Saab said:

What problems do you think I have? Once again your lack of knowledge about other people shines through. You judge everybody else by your own strange view of the world. You decry the millionaire leader of reform while ignoring that both main parties have millionaire leaders and talk about critical thinking.

My views on Rishi may have eacaped your notice....


Starmer, I have no idea if he's wealthy or not, he certainly trades on his huimble roots. All of which is tangential. At some point, you have to recognise that the Reform millionaires are merely using you as a mark. Appealing to your baser instincts to further their own aims.

The reform stans seem intent in ignoring every clue, I wonder why? Anderson hates Tice, we've all pointed out the January Poundshop Farage jibe, ignored. Anderson booted out of the Carlton club reportedly. such a man of the people. Habib, multi millionaire property tycoon, Rugby & Cambridge, Tice, multi millionaire property tycoon, Uppingham, took over the family firm, made a fortune. You really think these people give a st about nurses? GP appointments? Depressed northern towns? the working class whose existence you deny? No, they use racism & fear for votes, As despicable as politics gets

So the problem I think you have, is lying to yourself at the behest of people who know better. I couldn't accept that in myself, others appear happy to be told what to think.

Are you telling me what to think? It is just the same old arguments we have heard over and over regarding how you are the clever one who thinks for himself and always comes up with the correct answer.
The world has moved on time for you to join it.

[ZedLeg]

Vanden Saab said:

ZedLeg said:

Every election we have some fringe party picking up the dregs of the other ones and the same crowd will say it’s going to shake up politics. It never does, it’s a scam.

Did you vote for the SNP?

No

[S600BSB]

crankedup5 said:

S600BSB said:

crankedup5 said:

Starmer, such a politically honest upstanding chap, problem is even he doesn’t know what his politics are. Supporting Corbyn, a Hamas supporting nutter and batste crazy policy ideas which drove the Labour Party to its worst electoral defeat since 1935. Labour can’t decide what it is they want to present to the electorate and keep flip flopping in and out of policy ideas. Not insignificant ideas either, for example their green growth plan. Let’s be honest, if the Tories were not completely fooked inside out Labour wouldn’t have a slightest smell of electoral victory. Why vote for that? Forty years of failures between them and people still vote for more of that!

Bit tired that Crank. Time for your morning nap?

Only just got out of bed
Facts, which I know lefties love so much. I will be repeating this same message for the benefit of new posters in this forum

Good for you mate!

[President Merkin]

Vanden Saab said:

Are you telling me what to think? It is just the same old arguments we have heard over and over regarding how you are the clever one who thinks for himself and always comes up with the correct answer.
The world has moved on time for you to join it.

No, I'm telling you TO think. More specifically, to think beyond the simple slogans that Tice & Farage & Habib tell you. I'm telling you to ask yourself who they are and why they're doing what they're doing. I can tell you to do it all day long but only you can make the leap & if you don't want to, I can't force you but I can then reasonably conclude you want to be lied to. You only want to hear easy answers that chime with your prejudices.

[Sticks.]

tangerine_sedge said:

Sticks. said:

tangerine_sedge said:

People are ready for a steady hand on the tiller, not more "moon on a stick" promises...

Is this a quote from Cameron just before the Brexit referendum?

I'm not sure a referendum on a single issue is quite the same as an election for a new government

But, notice that UKIP/Brexit party didn't translate their distributed voters into more than a couple of seats across any of the elections/by-elections they stood in. The similarity of all these parties is that they appeal to the same demographic each time, and each time fail to achieve very much at the ballot box. This time will be no different as much as a vocal minority here argue otherwise.

I hope so, but Brexit tells us not to assume people won't vote for a rabble rousing, self serving, lying fringe.

There's been a shift to the populist right in some parts of Europe which we though (and hoped) we'd never see.

[Evercross]

ZedLeg said:

Vanden Saab said:

ZedLeg said:

Every election we have some fringe party picking up the dregs of the other ones and the same crowd will say it’s going to shake up politics. It never does, it’s a scam.

Did you vote for the SNP?

No

(Scottish) "Greens".

Same difference.

[ZedLeg]

Not really for the point that VS was trying to make.

Even the SNP have been a constant in UK politics for more than 20 years.

More than you can say for UKIP, BNP, Reform etc.

[LF5335]

cayman-black said:

lauda said:

Why would you want no foreigners?

I take it smn meant illegal migrants, not law abiding working Foreigners.

Engage reverse

Begin frantic pedalling.

How can you translate “no foreigners” to a qualified type of foreigner? I don’t want any vinegar on my chips. Well I thought that meant you didn’t want vinegar on those three chips not on any of them

[bad company]

ZedLeg said:

Every election we have some fringe party picking up the dregs of the other ones and the same crowd will say it’s going to shake up politics. It never does, it’s a scam.

It’s a protest, not a scam. As I said earlier in the thread I’m a lifelong Conservative voter but will vote Reform this time due to dissatisfaction with the Government and our local MP.

Fringe parties can influence the mainstream parties policies. The Greens are a good example.

[Vanden Saab]

President Merkin said:

Vanden Saab said:

Are you telling me what to think? It is just the same old arguments we have heard over and over regarding how you are the clever one who thinks for himself and always comes up with the correct answer.
The world has moved on time for you to join it.

No, I'm telling you TO think. More specifically, to think beyond the simple slogans that Tice & Farage & Habib tell you. I'm telling you to ask yourself who they are and why they're doing what they're doing. I can tell you to do it all day long but only you can make the leap & if you don't want to, I can't force you but I can then reasonably conclude you want to be lied to. You only want to hear easy answers that chime with your prejudices.

And you say I do not understand. I understand that on its own my vote or support for a political party means almost nothing. I also understand that along with millions of other voters my vote means everything. I know every politician lies to me in one way or another but I also know that ultimately if enough people vote a certain way what they want will get done. See Brexit and the net zero rollback for details.
The only person lying to themselves is you by pretending reform are in any way different to any other political party.