France in turmoil (again)

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croyde

22,919 posts

230 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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85Carrera said:
Ridiculous comment. Average Joe has been busy PCPing cars he can’t afford to impress his neighbours, hasn’t saved or invested a penny and has bought everything on tick in a time of historically low interest rates because he thought they would last forever and now bleats because the state isn’t going to bale him out because they’ve gone up.
Never PCPd anything in my life, or HP, or loan.

Decent enough wage but really struggling.

7 years to a retirement I can't afford. Many of my friends, family and work colleagues are in the same boat.

JagLover

42,418 posts

235 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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OzzyR1 said:
Funny you typed that...

Had a conversation with a new neighbour today who moved in last week.

His opening line was "is that your car?".
Was looking at my Audi estate, 12 years old but in OK condition.

I said yes.

Bear in mind this was the first time we met, he then asked me to come and look at his car (A7) and his wife's car (Evoque).

Both brand-new, lovely things and I made the usual appreciative noises after nosing round.

After that, this dick I've only known for 10mins asked why my me & my wife don't get new cars too.

Said I couldn't afford it, & he told me his A7 was £680/month and his wife's RR £750/month.

Mental - almost £1,500/month on renting cars and they think that is standard!

My wife & I have an S6, Elise S2, Porsche 996 & a Yaris - all over 10 years old but well-kept and paid for in full - probably for less than they pay in rent over 24 months

Each to their own
Is this your new neighbour?


fourstardan

4,295 posts

144 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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OzzyR1 said:
Funny you typed that...

Had a conversation with a new neighbour today who moved in last week.

His opening line was "is that your car?".
Was looking at my Audi estate, 12 years old but in OK condition.

I said yes.

Bear in mind this was the first time we met, he then asked me to come and look at his car (A7) and his wife's car (Evoque).

Both brand-new, lovely things and I made the usual appreciative noises after nosing round.

After that, this dick I've only known for 10mins asked why my me & my wife don't get new cars too.

Said I couldn't afford it, & he told me his A7 was £680/month and his wife's RR £750/month.

Mental - almost £1,500/month on renting cars and they think that is standard!

My wife & I have an S6, Elise S2, Porsche 996 & a Yaris - all over 10 years old but well-kept and paid for in full - probably for less than they pay in rent over 24 months

Each to their own
Is this a true story because if it is I never knew people this stupid existed.

Also he sounds like a coke dealer so get some CCTV as evidence for when they want it.

Carl_Manchester

12,212 posts

262 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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85Carrera said:
Ridiculous comment. Average Joe has been busy PCPing cars he can’t afford to impress his neighbours, hasn’t saved or invested a penny and has bought everything on tick in a time of historically low interest rates because he thought they would last forever and now bleats because the state isn’t going to bale him out because they’ve gone up.
that's one view, another view is that the governing class have hollowed out the west, sent it to Asia and now there's nothing left but managed decline, a middle class taxed to the eyeballs, lack of procreation, 30% child poverty for those that do, mass immigration to pop up the ponzi and a top 2% flashing their winnings on social media .





Hugo Stiglitz

37,141 posts

211 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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France in turmoil again?

When the UK raised the pension age nothing.

People joked about France in WW2 without any knowledge of the history proceeding and that if the UK was landlocked for hundreds of miles and invaded across said border in WW2 we too would have fallen.

France didn't surrender in WW1 and they lost millions of lives.

I love France. Such an incredible and amazing country.

KAgantua

3,871 posts

131 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Agreed ^

Remember, England got battered in WW2, and that was only due to loss of resources (Men, military supplies, weapons etc) and of course the bombing.

France (and all of mainland Europe really) had the above plus enemy boots/ tracks/ tyres on the ground.

'Savage Continent' was recommended by someone on here, and is about the aftermarth of WW2 on the contineuent.

Pan Pan Pan

9,917 posts

111 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
France in turmoil again?

When the UK raised the pension age nothing.

People joked about France in WW2 without any knowledge of the history proceeding and that if the UK was landlocked for hundreds of miles and invaded across said border in WW2 we too would have fallen.

France didn't surrender in WW1 and they lost millions of lives.

I love France. Such an incredible and amazing country.
There was also nothing when the UK was taken into the EU, with FIRST giving the people of the UK a democratic vote on the matter. Even when the people of the Uk `were' finally given a democratic vote on the matter in 2016 the liberal party, and some other tory and labour politicians tried to get the democratic vote overturned.
Ignoring democracy seems to be a trend these days.

Kermit power

28,653 posts

213 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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If any European country has even a remote chance of keeping its pension age down, it's arguably France, as the only country still having more than 2 children per family, and even then it's only just at 2.02!

We dropped below 2 in 1996, I believe, and are now at around 1.7. Germany and Spain are even more screwed at 1.3!

Pan Pan Pan

9,917 posts

111 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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I wonder how the people of France would react if their pension age was raised to 65?

Kermit power

28,653 posts

213 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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One of my French friends' father used to be a copper. He retired on full pay at 55!

vulture1

12,220 posts

179 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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JagLover said:
OzzyR1 said:
Funny you typed that...

Had a conversation with a new neighbour today who moved in last week.

His opening line was "is that your car?".
Was looking at my Audi estate, 12 years old but in OK condition.

I said yes.

Bear in mind this was the first time we met, he then asked me to come and look at his car (A7) and his wife's car (Evoque).

Both brand-new, lovely things and I made the usual appreciative noises after nosing round.

After that, this dick I've only known for 10mins asked why my me & my wife don't get new cars too.

Said I couldn't afford it, & he told me his A7 was £680/month and his wife's RR £750/month.

Mental - almost £1,500/month on renting cars and they think that is standard!

My wife & I have an S6, Elise S2, Porsche 996 & a Yaris - all over 10 years old but well-kept and paid for in full - probably for less than they pay in rent over 24 months

Each to their own
Is this your new neighbour?

Did your neighbour see the porsche and elise? A wild guess if he did he would have no idea of what they cost and likely think sporty looking so must be 50 60k etc.

S600BSB

4,632 posts

106 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Kermit power said:
One of my French friends' father used to be a copper. He retired on full pay at 55!
Don't coppers in the UK retire at 55? Although presumably not on full pay..

TheRainMaker

6,339 posts

242 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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S600BSB said:
Kermit power said:
One of my French friends' father used to be a copper. He retired on full pay at 55!
Don't coppers in the UK retire at 55? Although presumably not on full pay..
Yep, they were pushed to leave at 55 here, pay and pension till 60 or something like that anyway.

Probably all changed now, this was back in the 90’s.

garagewidow

1,502 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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JagLover said:
OzzyR1 said:
Funny you typed that...

Had a conversation with a new neighbour today who moved in last week.

His opening line was "is that your car?".
Was looking at my Audi estate, 12 years old but in OK condition.

I said yes.

Bear in mind this was the first time we met, he then asked me to come and look at his car (A7) and his wife's car (Evoque).

Both brand-new, lovely things and I made the usual appreciative noises after nosing round.

After that, this dick I've only known for 10mins asked why my me & my wife don't get new cars too.

Said I couldn't afford it, & he told me his A7 was £680/month and his wife's RR £750/month.

Mental - almost £1,500/month on renting cars and they think that is standard!

My wife & I have an S6, Elise S2, Porsche 996 & a Yaris - all over 10 years old but well-kept and paid for in full - probably for less than they pay in rent over 24 months

Each to their own
Is this your new neighbour?

My retort would have been,.....

"Very nice cars,but how do you find them after leaving Waitrose?"

fourstardan

4,295 posts

144 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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I wonder what demographic are rioting in France?

Is it nothing more than glorified by the news and just a bunch of yobs ?

Stan the Bat

8,929 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Ivan stewart said:
Is jug ears trip to see Napoleon off ???
Didn't know Lineker was ever going.

poo at Paul's

14,149 posts

175 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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Leithen said:
How bad is this in Paris? Was going to be there in 10 days time with the family for a few nights..
Don’t worry, it’ll still be going on when you’re there. Take a bat and a balaclava.

toastybase

2,226 posts

208 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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It’s kicking off here in Bordeaux

PositronicRay

27,029 posts

183 months

Sunday 26th March 2023
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fourstardan said:
I wonder what demographic are rioting in France?

Is it nothing more than glorified by the news and just a bunch of yobs ?
There is much, much more to this than pension reform. 1 million on the streets, King Charles uninvited for state visit.

Some serious st (even for France)

Earthdweller

Original Poster:

13,559 posts

126 months

Sunday 26th March 2023
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Looks like they’re re-enacting the battle of Waterloo among themselves .. crazy scenes from rural France one protestor critical and 16 cops hospitalised

https://twitter.com/lauzi_marco/status/16399071410...

Meanwhile cafe culture parisien style

https://twitter.com/akbrews/status/163975052093489...