Public emergency alert - being sent to your phone

[dvs_dave]

Getragdogleg said:

That didn’t come through the emergency alert system. It was a video sent by SMS to phone numbers they had amassed, made to look and sound like an emergency alert of the type that interrupts the TV networks. Proper emergency alert system notifications to phones don’t look like that at all. They’re text alerts that look like the example I posted earlier.

[V1nce Fox]

Grumps. said:

Good to see you are infecting yet another thread with your usual wibble.

Still waiting for you to support your claim on the cv19 thread with evidence. Just saying.

[dvs_dave]

johnboy1975 said:

Did 2m sirens go off?

Govt video linked in the OP's BBC link. Interestingly there's a covid like symbol to depict one of the possible emergencies

https://youtu.be/9yLd2AjGzYI

From the comments

"This could have been incredibly useful over the past year or so..."

BTW - The video is a year old. Has this been delayed?

No sirens (air raid style) for this. They’re reserved for Tornado warnings, along with Emergency Alerts to phones, TV and radio.

[Catastrophic Poo]

V1nce Fox said:

Grumps. said:

Good to see you are infecting yet another thread with your usual wibble.

Still waiting for you to support your claim on the cv19 thread with evidence. Just saying.

It must stand out, I know that thread is full of evidence based claims.

[dvs_dave]

Disastrous said:

I get that you’re being just hilarious there, but genuinely, did you not know about a 90mph storm heading your way??

Honestly feels massively weird to me that people feel they need extra alerts about weather on a device that already has access to all the meteorological data anyone could ever want.

Of course I knew there was the potential for extreme weather in the area , but it’s a large area, storm paths can be unpredictable, and it’s not at all unusual for this part of the world. When you get a specific warning for your specific location, you pay extra attention to it as it’s now something very local to you, and not just “in the area”, but actually only having any meaningful effects 25+ miles away.

[bitchstewie]

johnboy1975 said:

bhstewie said:

Imagine actually being surprised that one of the emergencies the Government might want to use an emergency alert system to alert people about is a public health emergency.

fking hell

Let's say this warning system came in 4 years ago. How do you envisage it being used during the covid years?

A: Everytime the case rate went over 2000 cases per 100,00 people, area specific? (You could find this info out, sans sirens, if you were minded to do so)

B: Just for the initial lockdown? (Most of the population were aware Boris was doing a broadcast)

C: Carefully so as to avoid panic? (You're aware of the plan, as such, to force compliance through fear?) https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegrap...

said:

SPI-B warned in March last year that ministers needed to increase “the perceived level of personal threat” from Covid-19 because “a substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened”.

You're not a Boris fan, I seem to recall...yet you trust him to use it judiciously??

And (important to this thread) - how would it have added to our "armoury"?

I'm not a Johnson fan in the slightest but I can separate out what I think of the man from what I think of the idea of this system if used correctly.

When the various NHS apps came out in the pandemic I put them on my phone.

I'd pretty much forgotten that I even had them on my phone until yesterday (or perhaps Thursday) when the NHS app popped up a notification that it was closing down in April.

That's a full on Covid app 100% at the mercy of the Government with all that potential for misuse over 2-3 years and even at the height of the pandemic I don't remember it being misused.

I think that ought to put some fears to rest but to put it politely some people seem so far down the hole I don't think they know which way is up any more.

[Disastrous]

dvs_dave said:

Disastrous said:

I get that you’re being just hilarious there, but genuinely, did you not know about a 90mph storm heading your way??

Honestly feels massively weird to me that people feel they need extra alerts about weather on a device that already has access to all the meteorological data anyone could ever want.

Of course I knew there was the potential for extreme weather in the area , but it’s a large area, storm paths can be unpredictable, and it’s not at all unusual for this part of the world. When you get a specific warning for your specific location, you pay extra attention to it as it’s now something very local to you, and not just “in the area”, but actually only having any meaningful effects 25+ miles away.

Then, I guess I’m glad the authorities were able to warn you to put your car away in time.

Sounds like a really useful system.

[dvs_dave]

Disastrous said:

dvs_dave said:

Disastrous said:

I get that you’re being just hilarious there, but genuinely, did you not know about a 90mph storm heading your way??

Honestly feels massively weird to me that people feel they need extra alerts about weather on a device that already has access to all the meteorological data anyone could ever want.

Of course I knew there was the potential for extreme weather in the area , but it’s a large area, storm paths can be unpredictable, and it’s not at all unusual for this part of the world. When you get a specific warning for your specific location, you pay extra attention to it as it’s now something very local to you, and not just “in the area”, but actually only having any meaningful effects 25+ miles away.

Then, I guess I’m glad the authorities were able to warn you to put your car away in time.

Sounds like a really useful system.

:nob:

My rights and freedoms were not affected in the process either.

[Disastrous]

dvs_dave said:

Disastrous said:

dvs_dave said:

Disastrous said:

I get that you’re being just hilarious there, but genuinely, did you not know about a 90mph storm heading your way??

Honestly feels massively weird to me that people feel they need extra alerts about weather on a device that already has access to all the meteorological data anyone could ever want.

Of course I knew there was the potential for extreme weather in the area , but it’s a large area, storm paths can be unpredictable, and it’s not at all unusual for this part of the world. When you get a specific warning for your specific location, you pay extra attention to it as it’s now something very local to you, and not just “in the area”, but actually only having any meaningful effects 25+ miles away.

Then, I guess I’m glad the authorities were able to warn you to put your car away in time.

Sounds like a really useful system.

:nob:

My rights and freedoms were not affected in the process either.

Nob? I’m not the one who needs a text message off the government to remind to wipe my bottom.

Who said anything about freedoms? I just think it’s pointless and a waste of resource. Anyone unable to tell that they’re in the middle of a storm without help from the government is beyond help already.

Anyway, I’m going to take the washing in. Looks like it might rain later, I see, by looking out my window.

[Catastrophic Poo]

Here we see an example of someone seeing (assuming?) the use case directly for them and assuming the same for all.

[xx99xx]

Disastrous said:

Nob? I’m not the one who needs a text message off the government to remind to wipe my bottom.

Who said anything about freedoms? I just think it’s pointless and a waste of resource. Anyone unable to tell that they’re in the middle of a storm without help from the government is beyond help already.

Anyway, I’m going to take the washing in. Looks like it might rain later, I see, by looking out my window.

What if you were asleep? Or do you set an alarm for every hour so you can check social media/your news source of choice through the night? I'm guessing you don't and you don't feel the need to based on your experience of not being affected by a risk to life emergency so far.

Some things can happen with no warning though as it's not just about weather. And even if it was weather related, not everyone is as diligent in being aware of breaking news. I suspect an alert system was far easier to implement than an education campaign to get everyone, residents and visitors, to watch/read news more frequently.

[Disastrous]

xx99xx said:

Disastrous said:

Nob? I’m not the one who needs a text message off the government to remind to wipe my bottom.

Who said anything about freedoms? I just think it’s pointless and a waste of resource. Anyone unable to tell that they’re in the middle of a storm without help from the government is beyond help already.

Anyway, I’m going to take the washing in. Looks like it might rain later, I see, by looking out my window.

What if you were asleep? Or do you set an alarm for every hour so you can check social media/your news source of choice through the night? I'm guessing you don't and you don't feel the need to based on your experience of not being affected by a risk to life emergency so far.

Some things can happen with no warning though as it's not just about weather. And even if it was weather related, not everyone is as diligent in being aware of breaking news. I suspect an alert system was far easier to implement than an education campaign to get everyone, residents and visitors, to watch/read news more frequently.

I’m not even going to address that nonsense - what if I was asleep? Seriously?? I’d either wake up or not. What would you do?

Humanity is actually doomed. How do you guys find your way out the house in the morning?

[dvs_dave]

Disastrous said:

Nob? I’m not the one who needs a text message off the government to remind to wipe my bottom.

Who said anything about freedoms? I just think it’s pointless and a waste of resource. Anyone unable to tell that they’re in the middle of a storm without help from the government is beyond help already.

Anyway, I’m going to take the washing in. Looks like it might rain later, I see, by looking out my window.

Yep. And I’m sure in the parochial environment that you rarely leave you’ll be just fine, until one day whilst perhaps somewhere unfamiliar, you might not be. Hopefully your loved ones can tearfully accept that nice shiny Darwin Award on your behalf.

Still, it’s 100% your right, and your freedom to choose to opt out of the nanny state if you think you’ll always know better.

[Disastrous]

dvs_dave said:

Disastrous said:

Nob? I’m not the one who needs a text message off the government to remind to wipe my bottom.

Who said anything about freedoms? I just think it’s pointless and a waste of resource. Anyone unable to tell that they’re in the middle of a storm without help from the government is beyond help already.

Anyway, I’m going to take the washing in. Looks like it might rain later, I see, by looking out my window.

Yep. And I’m sure in the parochial environment that you rarely leave you’ll be just fine, until one day whilst perhaps somewhere unfamiliar, you might not be. Hopefully your loved ones can tearfully accept that nice shiny Darwin Award on your behalf.

Still, it’s 100% your right, and your freedom to choose to opt out of the nanny state if you think you’ll always know better.

What are you talking about? Where are you getting this parochial environment from??

Also you seem desperate to make this about some sort of rights/anti-government thing. It’s not. I just think it’s pathetic to need/want this in the first place. No skin off my nose if you need nanny to give it a shake for you before you zip up. You just sound like a massive baby.

[dvs_dave]

Disastrous said:

What are you talking about? Where are you getting this parochial environment from??

Also you seem desperate to make this about some sort of rights/anti-government thing. It’s not. I just think it’s pathetic to need/want this in the first place. No skin off my nose if you need nanny to give it a shake for you before you zip up. You just sound like a massive baby.

Lang syne, eh.

[xx99xx]

Disastrous said:

I’m not even going to address that nonsense - what if I was asleep? Seriously?? I’d either wake up or not. What would you do?

Humanity is actually doomed. How do you guys find your way out the house in the morning?

Hilarious!

Me? I'd get woken up by the emergency alert on my phone. Then I'd have a check of the internet and decide what to do, if anything, next.

Not sure how you'd instinctively wake up if a cloud of chlorine gas was heading your way, or a torrent of floodwater. Unless your room mates in your dorm have their alerts switched on and it wakes you up?

Anyway, I'm happy for anyone if they want to turn their alerts off. It makes no difference to me, free country and all that. Just bear in mind that not everyone is as switched on as you so you're not the target audience of alerts.

[Disastrous]

xx99xx said:

Disastrous said:

I’m not even going to address that nonsense - what if I was asleep? Seriously?? I’d either wake up or not. What would you do?

Humanity is actually doomed. How do you guys find your way out the house in the morning?

Hilarious!

Me? I'd get woken up by the emergency alert on my phone. Then I'd have a check of the internet and decide what to do, if anything, next.

Not sure how you'd instinctively wake up if a cloud of chlorine gas was heading your way, or a torrent of floodwater. Unless your room mates in your dorm have their alerts switched on and it wakes you up?

It’s chlorine gas now, not a storm?

You’ve just conjured that up now but tbh, if I’m asleep and an imaginary gas cloud is heading my way there's probably not much I can do about it.

You can crack on ask the internet for help though. It may save your life!

[KAgantua]

Disastrous said:

dvs_dave said:

Disastrous said:

Nob? I’m not the one who needs a text message off the government to remind to wipe my bottom.

Who said anything about freedoms? I just think it’s pointless and a waste of resource. Anyone unable to tell that they’re in the middle of a storm without help from the government is beyond help already.

Anyway, I’m going to take the washing in. Looks like it might rain later, I see, by looking out my window.

Yep. And I’m sure in the parochial environment that you rarely leave you’ll be just fine, until one day whilst perhaps somewhere unfamiliar, you might not be. Hopefully your loved ones can tearfully accept that nice shiny Darwin Award on your behalf.

Still, it’s 100% your right, and your freedom to choose to opt out of the nanny state if you think you’ll always know better.

What are you talking about? Where are you getting this parochial environment from??

Also you seem desperate to make this about some sort of rights/anti-government thing. It’s not. I just think it’s pathetic to need/want this in the first place. No skin off my nose if you need nanny to give it a shake for you before you zip up. You just sound like a massive baby.

I actually think these are a good idea... in countries with extreme weather (The States, for example) and risk of flooding/ tornadoes/ wildfires.

The UK has none of these, and its this same attitude that ensures we collectively lose our st at some... minus temperatures. Or.... a little bit of snow...

Its laughable really. My GF is Polish and she tells me they laugh at the UK and how we lose our st over a bit of weather.

[Sway]

Amusing how the two options are:

'I'm super alpha, I know when storms happen and can cope with anything all by myself'

Or

'nothing I could do anyway, so why would I want to know?'

[Getragdogleg]

Sway said:

Amusing how the two options are:

'I'm super alpha, I know when storms happen and can cope with anything all by myself'

Or

'nothing I could do anyway, so why would I want to know?'

Three, "It's going to be a bit cold/wet and this sodding thing has just honked its tits off again like its the end of the world, sod this, I'm turning it off".