Buying a car with no TUV from Germany to import to the UK

Buying a car with no TUV from Germany to import to the UK

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Ben A

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38 posts

237 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Hi,

I'm looking into buying a Mercedes W115 from Germany to bring back to the UK for restoration. I've found a potentially suitable vehicle and am aware of being able to buy a German car for export.

However, I am not sure on the details - or if it's possible - to buy a car without a TUV (German MOT) as a foreigner. We'd of course trailer said car back home - assuming I can legally purchase it there.

Anyone have any experience?

Thanks

stef1808

950 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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TUV is a non issue. You’ll need the original registration though

Ben A

Original Poster:

38 posts

237 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Ok, that's good news. If the seller legally owns the car and has done for quite some time could it be assumed that they still have the original registration in their possession in normal circumstances?

Granturadriver

578 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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The car does not have to have an MOT when you buy it.

The seller must of course be the owner. For registered vehicles in Germany, we always prove this by means of the vehicle registration document, which today is the EU registration certificate Part II (1 page DINA4 format). In parallel, the owner has the vehicle registration document, which is the EU registration certificate Part I (210 mm × 105 mm, folded twice to DIN A7). In the case of deregistered vehicles, there are usually only invalidated certificates or a sales contract, etc.

The vehicle only has a registration number if it is registered. For registration, proof of insurance and ownership and a valid MOT inspection are required. The car only gets a licence plate with seals when it is registered. The licence plate is issued by the municipality where you live. That's why our cars usually change licence plates when they are sold and the buyer lives somewhere else.

Whoever sells a car here either deregisters it before the sale or the buyer must agree to immediately re-register the car in his own name. The registration plates are cancelled during deregistration, i.e. the seals are removed. A deregistered car is not allowed to participate in road traffic.

You can therefore buy the car even if it is not registered and no longer has valid licence plates. You do not need a TÜV certificate. However, make sure that the seller is really the owner of the car.

Ben A

Original Poster:

38 posts

237 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Granturadriver said:
The car does not have to have an MOT when you buy it.

The seller must of course be the owner. For registered vehicles in Germany, we always prove this by means of the vehicle registration document, which today is the EU registration certificate Part II (1 page DINA4 format). In parallel, the owner has the vehicle registration document, which is the EU registration certificate Part I (210 mm × 105 mm, folded twice to DIN A7). In the case of deregistered vehicles, there are usually only invalidated certificates or a sales contract, etc.

The vehicle only has a registration number if it is registered. For registration, proof of insurance and ownership and a valid MOT inspection are required. The car only gets a licence plate with seals when it is registered. The licence plate is issued by the municipality where you live. That's why our cars usually change licence plates when they are sold and the buyer lives somewhere else.

Whoever sells a car here either deregisters it before the sale or the buyer must agree to immediately re-register the car in his own name. The registration plates are cancelled during deregistration, i.e. the seals are removed. A deregistered car is not allowed to participate in road traffic.

You can therefore buy the car even if it is not registered and no longer has valid licence plates. You do not need a TÜV certificate. However, make sure that the seller is really the owner of the car.
Great information, very thorough - thank you. Is the process of transferring ownership one that's quite simply done in a municipal office or is it done another way? I want to understand how much time I need to allow for the paperwork, basically.

Granturadriver

578 posts

261 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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To change the owner is very simple. In fact, it is enough to hand over the car, papers and keys. So, does not take longer than a cup of coffee.

However, since the registration office in Germany often asks for proof of ownership (at least for imported cars), it makes sense to have a written purchase contract.

rallycross

12,791 posts

237 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Could anyone add to this thread what the rules are now for importing an older car from Italy? I’ve done it a coupe of times prebrexit when it was very easy, apparently much more complicated from Italy now ( ref cars over ten years old so no vat to worry about).

Ben A

Original Poster:

38 posts

237 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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Granturadriver said:
To change the owner is very simple. In fact, it is enough to hand over the car, papers and keys. So, does not take longer than a cup of coffee.

However, since the registration office in Germany often asks for proof of ownership (at least for imported cars), it makes sense to have a written purchase contract.
Thanks for this. I wouldn't be registering it in Germany, simply putting it straight on a trailer and taking it back to the UK. So I guess the papers, sale contract, receipt, etc is enough? No need to visit any offices. Would it be a good idea to have a photo of the seller's driver's license?