Short flights by football club players
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swisstoni said:
Insignificant in terms of total emissions.
It does make one wonder sometimes whether some of the objections on ‘green’ grounds are nothing but attempts to make other people feel bad about themselves.
You are correct. It wont work. I feel no guilt at all about flying to California later this year. Judging by the choice of flights I have most other people don't include stopping flying as a requirement to cut their carbon footprint. It does make one wonder sometimes whether some of the objections on ‘green’ grounds are nothing but attempts to make other people feel bad about themselves.
Evanivitch said:
Forest Green Rovers are doing quite big things for a small club.
Including being bottom of League 1 and facing almost certain relegation.Still, no doubt their handful of fans don't mind, since they've got vegan pies to munch on at their home stadium. I can personally testify that the pies are horrible; perhaps Dale Vince (their owner) should let the fans and players eat some proper steak & kidney pies - it might improve the players' on field performances!
Hants PHer said:
Including being bottom of League 1 and facing almost certain relegation.
Still, no doubt their handful of fans don't mind, since they've got vegan pies to munch on at their home stadium. I can personally testify that the pies are horrible; perhaps Dale Vince (their owner) should let the fans and players eat some proper steak & kidney pies - it might improve the players' on field performances!
If you knew anything at all about the game you would realise how far they’ve come. Even if they finish bottom it will be the highest they’ve ever finished in the football pyramid. But you keep being smug and wrong. Still, no doubt their handful of fans don't mind, since they've got vegan pies to munch on at their home stadium. I can personally testify that the pies are horrible; perhaps Dale Vince (their owner) should let the fans and players eat some proper steak & kidney pies - it might improve the players' on field performances!
Dingu said:
If you knew anything at all about the game you would realise how far they’ve come. Even if they finish bottom it will be the highest they’ve ever finished in the football pyramid. But you keep being smug and wrong.
Fifty years of supporting a lower league team says I know my League 1 and League 2 onions, thanks very much. My point was slightly tongue in cheek of course, but Forest Green are one of Dale Vince's pet projects that he funds; another is Just Stop Oil. Oh, and the vegan pies they serve at The New Lawn Stadium are plain rank.Hants PHer said:
Including being bottom of League 1 and facing almost certain relegation.
Still, no doubt their handful of fans don't mind, since they've got vegan pies to munch on at their home stadium. I can personally testify that the pies are horrible; perhaps Dale Vince (their owner) should let the fans and players eat some proper steak & kidney pies - it might improve the players' on field performances!
Sigh. You'd rather eat waste meat than vegan, that's fine.Still, no doubt their handful of fans don't mind, since they've got vegan pies to munch on at their home stadium. I can personally testify that the pies are horrible; perhaps Dale Vince (their owner) should let the fans and players eat some proper steak & kidney pies - it might improve the players' on field performances!
They've also made efforts to build a modern stadium using wood, something which was outlawed based on outdated technology. As well as numerous energy and environmental impacts from everything from training grounds to pitch management.
They're all little things that add up when shared across hundreds of football and other sports across the UK, Europe and globally.
Electro1980 said:
Diderot said:
Super Sonic said:
Diderot said:
CO2 isn’t a pollutant. You do understand that plants require CO2 to photosynthesise don’t you?
CO² is a greenhouse gas.swisstoni said:
Insignificant in terms of total emissions.
It does make one wonder sometimes whether some of the objections on ‘green’ grounds are nothing but attempts to make other people feel bad about themselves.
If the whole of the UK started living in caves, and culled 90% of the population, it too would be insignificant in the scale of the planet. It does make one wonder sometimes whether some of the objections on ‘green’ grounds are nothing but attempts to make other people feel bad about themselves.
The issue is, are any of the people using planes to do what cars and busses should be doing, pontificating to the rest of us for going about our business in our preferred way? If so, s
t 'em, if not, well there's no real problem imoirc said:
The train is never going to happen anyway. If they are not flying it will be club coaches. No hassle from the public. Door to door.
Not true, Manchester City, Man United and Liverpool have booked entire carriages on Virgin/Avanti trains when playing matches in London. I've seen the entire United and City teams boarding the trains at Stockport, Manchester Piccadilly and Macclesfield stations before now and Liverpool usually get on the train at Runcorn. Edited by towser44 on Tuesday 28th March 14:50
Edited by towser44 on Tuesday 28th March 14:51
Biggy Stardust said:
Electro1980 said:
Diderot said:
Super Sonic said:
Diderot said:
CO2 isn’t a pollutant. You do understand that plants require CO2 to photosynthesise don’t you?
CO² is a greenhouse gas.
Evanivitch said:
Sigh. You'd rather eat waste meat than vegan, that's fine.
They've also made efforts to build a modern stadium using wood, something which was outlawed based on outdated technology. As well as numerous energy and environmental impacts from everything from training grounds to pitch management.
They're all little things that add up when shared across hundreds of football and other sports across the UK, Europe and globally.
I actually do find some of the things FGR have done interesting, and credit them for that: LED lighting, harvesting rainwater for the pitch, and players' shirts made from natural fibres, for example. However, the insistence on vegan food is silly (I know, their place their rules, I get that) and I strongly dislike Dale Vince's politics. He's a virtue signalling fool, in my opinion. I really, really object to his funding Just Stop Oil. And, he may have put the 'green' into Forest Green, but they're a shyte team and will be relegated this season.They've also made efforts to build a modern stadium using wood, something which was outlawed based on outdated technology. As well as numerous energy and environmental impacts from everything from training grounds to pitch management.
They're all little things that add up when shared across hundreds of football and other sports across the UK, Europe and globally.
Oh, and proper pies aren't made from 'waste meat'. Try the ones at MK Dons or at Morecambe the next time you're there - lovely.
Hants PHer said:
Evanivitch said:
Sigh. You'd rather eat waste meat than vegan, that's fine.
They've also made efforts to build a modern stadium using wood, something which was outlawed based on outdated technology. As well as numerous energy and environmental impacts from everything from training grounds to pitch management.
They're all little things that add up when shared across hundreds of football and other sports across the UK, Europe and globally.
I actually do find some of the things FGR have done interesting, and credit them for that: LED lighting, harvesting rainwater for the pitch, and players' shirts made from natural fibres, for example. However, the insistence on vegan food is silly (I know, their place their rules, I get that) and I strongly dislike Dale Vince's politics. He's a virtue signalling fool, in my opinion. I really, really object to his funding Just Stop Oil. And, he may have put the 'green' into Forest Green, but they're a shyte team and will be relegated this season.They've also made efforts to build a modern stadium using wood, something which was outlawed based on outdated technology. As well as numerous energy and environmental impacts from everything from training grounds to pitch management.
They're all little things that add up when shared across hundreds of football and other sports across the UK, Europe and globally.
Oh, and proper pies aren't made from 'waste meat'. Try the ones at MK Dons or at Morecambe the next time you're there - lovely.
Hants PHer said:
I actually do find some of the things FGR have done interesting, and credit them for that: LED lighting, harvesting rainwater for the pitch, and players' shirts made from natural fibres, for example. However, the insistence on vegan food is silly (I know, their place their rules, I get that) and I strongly dislike Dale Vince's politics. He's a virtue signalling fool, in my opinion. I really, really object to his funding Just Stop Oil. And, he may have put the 'green' into Forest Green, but they're a shyte team and will be relegated this season.
Oh, and proper pies aren't made from 'waste meat'. Try the ones at MK Dons or at Morecambe the next time you're there - lovely.
Steak and kidney pie is waste meat every single time, don't kid yourself Oh, and proper pies aren't made from 'waste meat'. Try the ones at MK Dons or at Morecambe the next time you're there - lovely.
Not sure how you can claim Dale Vince is virtue signalling given he's a businessman with business interests firmly in renewable energy. Hardly an actor or a footballer in a Prius, is it?
Similarly his funding for just stop oil is perfectly in line with his business interests in biomass (not Drax) for when thermal generation is required.
Evanivitch said:
Steak and kidney pie is waste meat every single time, don't kid yourself
Not sure how you can claim Dale Vince is virtue signalling given he's a businessman with business interests firmly in renewable energy. Hardly an actor or a footballer in a Prius, is it?
Similarly his funding for just stop oil is perfectly in line with his business interests in biomass (not Drax) for when thermal generation is required.
A proper steak and kidney pie is made with proper ingredients, hence it being 'proper'. Actually, Morecambe's offering is steak and ale, as I recall, and it is fabulous. Something you need when you've driven five hours to get to the humble surroundings of the Mazuma Stadium. Perhaps you'll give it a go when you're next there.Not sure how you can claim Dale Vince is virtue signalling given he's a businessman with business interests firmly in renewable energy. Hardly an actor or a footballer in a Prius, is it?
Similarly his funding for just stop oil is perfectly in line with his business interests in biomass (not Drax) for when thermal generation is required.
By the way, Dale Vince did a deal with Nissan to provide the FGR payers with Nissan Leafs to drive. Virtue signalling, in my opinion. And JSO are very nearly a terrorist organisation, in my opinion, and his funding for them is objectionable. More virtue signalling. Vince wants the entire UK to be powered by growing grass, which will never work and would end food farming as we know it. He's a virtue signalling, deluded hippy and a fool.
Teddy Lop said:
Wouldn't eating "waste meat" be even more eco friendly and smugworthy than vegan?
Not if it's from farmed meat, no.Hants PHer said:
A proper steak and kidney pie is made with proper ingredients, hence it being 'proper'.
Keep kidding yourself that pies get good cuts and kidney isn't a waste product.Hants PHer said:
By the way, Dale Vince did a deal with Nissan to provide the FGR payers with Nissan Leafs to drive.
Or a pragmatic solution to Scope 3 emissions.Hants PHer said:
Vince wants the entire UK to be powered by growing grass, which will never work and would end food farming as we know it.
Except he's also a massive investor in wind, solar, hydro. Perhaps of we stopped wasting grass on equine meat pies we'd have less of an issue.Evanivitch said:
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I'm sad that you've apparently never sampled a proper steak and kidney pie; you've missed out.We're not going to agree about Dale Vince, it seems. I maintain that he's a walloping fool, a funder of criminal actions, and a virtue signaller. I predict that, in time, his proposals will suffer the same fate as his feeble football team this season. Relegated to the bottom of the pile.
Hants PHer said:
I actually do find some of the things FGR have done interesting, and credit them for that: LED lighting, harvesting rainwater for the pitch, and players' shirts made from natural fibres, for example. However, the insistence on vegan food is silly (I know, their place their rules, I get that) and I strongly dislike Dale Vince's politics. He's a virtue signalling fool, in my opinion. I really, really object to his funding Just Stop Oil. And, he may have put the 'green' into Forest Green, but they're a shyte team and will be relegated this season.
Oh, and proper pies aren't made from 'waste meat'. Try the ones at MK Dons or at Morecambe the next time you're there - lovely.
He is demonstrating what is possible. It’s hardly virtue signalling. You just have a chip on your shoulder because you can’t disagree with him like an adult. Oh, and proper pies aren't made from 'waste meat'. Try the ones at MK Dons or at Morecambe the next time you're there - lovely.
Also appear to be one of the entitled generation who have only known destroying the planet with pure gluttonous consumption.
Dingu said:
He is demonstrating what is possible. It’s hardly virtue signalling. You just have a chip on your shoulder because you can’t disagree with him like an adult.
Also appear to be one of the entitled generation who have only known destroying the planet with pure gluttonous consumption.
Sorry, do you mean disagreeing with Mr Vince or Evanivitch? If you mean Vince, then I cannot accept that funding criminal activity is acceptable. Quite why you say that's not adult is unclear.Also appear to be one of the entitled generation who have only known destroying the planet with pure gluttonous consumption.
But thanks for the assumption about my generation, and my consumption. Not a very 'adult' position to adopt, to be honest.
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