Short flights by football club players

Short flights by football club players

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Evanivitch

20,078 posts

122 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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FredericRobinson said:
The greenest thing Forest Green could do is stay in their perfectly adequate current ground rather than building a new one with associated business park next to a motorway junction
Or they could also stop playing football entirely, and so Dale Vince could make a lifetime of buying football clubs and shutting them down and plant trees on the pitch instead... That would literally be the greenest thing.

Instead they're making efforts to take a team from the lower divisions through the league system (with obvious challenges along the way) in an environmentally sustainable way.


Diderot

7,319 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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FredericRobinson said:
The greenest thing Forest Green could do is stay in their perfectly adequate current ground rather than building a new one with associated business park next to a motorway junction
Strangely enough he’s a business man. What I want to know is does he serve any fizzy drinks in his ground?

alangla

4,795 posts

181 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Hants PHer said:
A proper steak and kidney pie is made with proper ingredients, hence it being 'proper'. Actually, Morecambe's offering is steak and ale, as I recall, and it is fabulous. Something you need when you've driven five hours to get to the humble surroundings of the Mazuma Stadium. Perhaps you'll give it a go when you're next there.
I trust you had a pie & peas, not just a pie when you were at the Mazuma Stadium? smile

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Evanivitch said:
Teddy Lop said:
Wouldn't eating "waste meat" be even more eco friendly and smugworthy than vegan?
Not if it's from farmed meat, no.
So farming and processing vegan foodstuffs - some of which are actually very resource heavy - is more eco than repurposing a byproduct otherwise being discarded?

CraigyMc

16,409 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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pavarotti1980 said:
Electro1980 said:
I’m basing it on Google results and average time taken to get through the airport.

I’d like to know, again, which premier league football team is going to Aberdeen…
But they dont go through the airport at Newcastle though. Private terminal. You can be airborne with 15-20 minutes of walking through the door + 60-65 minute flight
It'd be the General Aviation building at Newcastle, which is to the South of the airport's main buildings. You get off the A696 a junction earlier than for the main airport turnoff.

When I've done this, the plane has been taxi'd over to the building to collect me so it's parked with engines off on my arrival. From the car seat to sitting on the plane was quite literally about 2 minutes (all of which walking through the GA building and across the ramp). At no point did anyone enquire about my identification, check a bag or anything like that. The plane's engines were started up and we were rolling as soon as the door was closed, which was basically as soon as I sat down. You couldn't really make it much faster to my mind.

Business jets are this:
You need to wrap your head around the idea that a private plane isn't the equivalent of a public bus -- commercial airliners are this.
Instead, a private plane is a limo just for you.

Get yourself away from crowds, yelling kids, tat bazaars, security theatre and queues of regular commercial aviation.
Private aviation has none of it because they aren't really trying to make money out of you being in the building. There are fees for that instead and to be honest most of the GA waiting areas are portakabins with weirdly out of place gentlemans club type furniture and cheap coffee pod machines. They are somewhere you don't want to be.

Flight time from Newcastle to Southampton when I was doing that route was in the region of 50 minutes but it'd vary a bit by the particular type of plane, and vary more by how congested the facilities are at each end. FlyBe would fly a dash-8 Q400 and that'd take about 50 minutes. Eastern Air did it in a Saab 340 in about 55, while trying to make you drink bucks fizz at 6am. Every fking morning.

At least the Saab 340 had a downward-facing window in the potty so you could watch ultra-resolution google maps while crapping. That was an experience.

Also an experience, and one which only a few will have: on a private plane you can completely switch the cabin lights off at night.
I flew one sector across the North Sea in the late 90s and loved watching the gas flares off the oil rigs.

For shorter distances, rotorcraft are often quicker because they are more point-to-point and they can get in and out of places planes can't. There are helipads in odd places (battersea, anyone?) as well as whatever country estate it is you happen to be visiting.

FredericRobinson

3,698 posts

232 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Diderot said:
Strangely enough he’s a business man. What I want to know is does he serve any fizzy drinks in his ground?
Obviously the businessman bit isn’t in dispute, just how much the ‘green’ bit is genuine

towser44

3,494 posts

115 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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The best one was a couple of years ago, when Manchester United's official club airline was Aeroflot. When they played in Europe, an Aeroflot 777 or A350 used to fly in to Manchester from Russia (empty as Manchester hasn't been served by Aeroflot for years) to then take the team to wherever they were playing.

Biggy Stardust

6,883 posts

44 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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They can take whatever flights they see fit.

I only ask that they don't then attempt to lecture others about flying or other non-green activities.

irc

7,308 posts

136 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
They can take whatever flights they see fit.

I only ask that they don't then attempt to lecture others about flying or other non-green activities.
Perhaps they could take the knee for fighting climate change?

pavarotti1980

4,898 posts

84 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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CraigyMc said:
It'd be the General Aviation building at Newcastle, which is to the South of the airport's main buildings. You get off the A696 a junction earlier than for the main airport turnoff.

When I've done this, the plane has been taxi'd over to the building to collect me so it's parked with engines off on my arrival. From the car seat to sitting on the plane was quite literally about 2 minutes (all of which walking through the GA building and across the ramp). At no point did anyone enquire about my identification, check a bag or anything like that. The plane's engines were started up and we were rolling as soon as the door was closed, which was basically as soon as I sat down. You couldn't really make it much faster to my mind.

Business jets are this:
You need to wrap your head around the idea that a private plane isn't the equivalent of a public bus -- commercial airliners are this.
Instead, a private plane is a limo just for you.

Get yourself away from crowds, yelling kids, tat bazaars, security theatre and queues of regular commercial aviation.
Private aviation has none of it because they aren't really trying to make money out of you being in the building. There are fees for that instead and to be honest most of the GA waiting areas are portakabins with weirdly out of place gentlemans club type furniture and cheap coffee pod machines. They are somewhere you don't want to be.

Flight time from Newcastle to Southampton when I was doing that route was in the region of 50 minutes but it'd vary a bit by the particular type of plane, and vary more by how congested the facilities are at each end. FlyBe would fly a dash-8 Q400 and that'd take about 50 minutes. Eastern Air did it in a Saab 340 in about 55, while trying to make you drink bucks fizz at 6am. Every fking morning.

At least the Saab 340 had a downward-facing window in the potty so you could watch ultra-resolution google maps while crapping. That was an experience.

Also an experience, and one which only a few will have: on a private plane you can completely switch the cabin lights off at night.
I flew one sector across the North Sea in the late 90s and loved watching the gas flares off the oil rigs.

For shorter distances, rotorcraft are often quicker because they are more point-to-point and they can get in and out of places planes can't. There are helipads in odd places (battersea, anyone?) as well as whatever country estate it is you happen to be visiting.
Yep Samson Aviation. My dads mate is the caterer for the private flights. There are some interesting people come through that terminal in their private jets

swisstoni

16,997 posts

279 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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I wonder what else comes through if there’s no customs checks.

pavarotti1980

4,898 posts

84 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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swisstoni said:
I wonder what else comes through if there’s no customs checks.
They will provide UKBA/passport/immigration control in the private terminals as well.

CraigyMc

16,409 posts

236 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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pavarotti1980 said:
swisstoni said:
I wonder what else comes through if there’s no customs checks.
They will provide UKBA/passport/immigration control in the private terminals as well.
They do, but it's not like in a commercial terminal. There really aren't security checks per se.

pavarotti1980

4,898 posts

84 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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CraigyMc said:
They do, but it's not like in a commercial terminal. There really aren't security checks per se.
Nope very different to commercial. No tardy 18 year old sick of their life waving you through the scanner

James6112

4,364 posts

28 months

Thursday 13th April 2023
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Timothy Bucktu said:
So what?

Oh...you think the 'climate emergency' is real? LoL.
Wake up sheeple.
Sheeple
Outed yourself there !

jm8403

2,515 posts

25 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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James6112 said:
Sheeple
Outed yourself there !
did he?