RAF Scampton

[Vanden Saab]

SteveStrange said:

Electro1980 said:

Can you engage reasonably, or do you always have to result to that kind of childish behaviour? Perhaps if you started from a point of good faith rather than painting anyone you disagree with as automatically unreasonable you might get somewhere. Stop talking ... and start listening.

This exact line can be aimed at both "sides" of the debate.

Neither side are willing to give a number, because the "other" side will just snipe at it, regardless of how big or how small it is.

Neither side will admit they are wrong.

Neither side will admit to being extreme (one way or the other), yet will be accused of being "far left" or "far right", when neither is accurate.

This is the way of NPE.

The only thing I would say, is if one ONLY engages in NPE and doesn't contribute to the site elsewhere, then maybe one should just bugger off to Twitter, where arguments are far more welcome.

Not on a side but I would suggest that 50,000 refugees would be a sensible number per year. 1,000 per week.
Please note that is refugees not immigrants. From an immigration perspective as many as we need to cover skills shortages and as presently with a minimum salary and job offer requirement.

[98elise]

S600BSB said:

Oliver Hardy said:

There must be thousands of empty properties across the UK that could be used as accommodation, empty schools, hospital, nursing homes, hotels and even office blocks.

These people are escaping war, persecution, death so converting an office block for them should be acceptable, as long as it provides the basics. After all this is being done for UK families.

Must be loads of empty MoD property that is empty and not being used for anything useful. What about RAF Scampton? Fits the bill nicely.

And assuming they are using the accommodation blocks then there is nothing to convert.

[crankedup5]

S600BSB said:

crankedup5 said:

If Russia ups the anti we could well find that we will need to bring these disused military bases back on line.

Nothing to fly out of them now. Only recently that our aircraft carriers had aircraft!

Fair point, I’m still thinking the times when we had loads of aircraft in a state of readiness on land. As you say, those aircraft are now at sea. Still we still have some American air bases at readiness.

[pequod]

98elise said:

And assuming they are using the accommodation blocks then there is nothing to convert.

Which are now being considered for Heritage (Grade 2) buildings?

Many more derelict Military sites are available without destroying a special piece of our heritage, I would suggest?

[S600BSB]

pequod said:

98elise said:

And assuming they are using the accommodation blocks then there is nothing to convert.

Which are now being considered for Heritage (Grade 2) buildings?

Many more derelict Military sites are available without destroying a special piece of our heritage, I would suggest?

Government has been clear that the historic buildings at Scampton won't be touched. I am sure many bases have links with historic raids/regiments/squadrons if you look hard enough. Scampton sounds like a decent option as it only recently stepped down from being operational so the accommodation buildings should be easy to reopen etc.

[don'tbesilly]

pequod said:

98elise said:

And assuming they are using the accommodation blocks then there is nothing to convert.

Which are now being considered for Heritage (Grade 2) buildings?

Many more derelict Military sites are available without destroying a special piece of our heritage, I would suggest?

That will/would (if granted) only apply to the Officers Mess building.

https://www.west-lindsey.gov.uk/council-news/2023/...

[pequod]

don'tbesilly said:

pequod said:

98elise said:

And assuming they are using the accommodation blocks then there is nothing to convert.

Which are now being considered for Heritage (Grade 2) buildings?

Many more derelict Military sites are available without destroying a special piece of our heritage, I would suggest?

That will/would (if granted) only apply to the Officers Mess building.

https://www.west-lindsey.gov.uk/council-news/2023/...

Should we protect our Heritage sites? Not simply one (1) building, but all surviving buildings from that era? Plus the runway, albeit the landings are different today?

Brooklands? Only a small section remains, but it is large part of the history of motorsport, and, in the same vein, so is RAF Scampton?

[S600BSB]

pequod said:

Should we protect our Heritage sites? Not simply one (1) building, but all surviving buildings from that era? Plus the runway, albeit the landings are different today?

Brooklands? Only a small section remains, but it is large part of the history of motorsport, and, in the same vein, so is RAF Scampton?

Why on earth would you want to protect a runway!

[pequod]

S600BSB said:

pequod said:

Should we protect our Heritage sites? Not simply one (1) building, but all surviving buildings from that era? Plus the runway, albeit the landings are different today?

Brooklands? Only a small section remains, but it is large part of the history of motorsport, and, in the same vein, so is RAF Scampton?

Why on earth would you want to protect a runway!

Why on earth would you want to protect a banked motor race track?