No nudity in changing rooms
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Saweep said:
jm8403 said:
ZedLeg said:
That’s the way it goes isn’t it. You get set up with hang ups about body image and nudity when you’re young and it takes 60 years to get over it 
It's not hang ups that I don't walk around the changing room and naked and dry my balls with the dryer (the old chaps do this in my gym too)
That's the other thing that's odd too, the assumption that everyone is staring at your or others bits.
You kind of develop a thousand yard stare. Viz did a spoof advert years ago for 'urinal blinkers' and it's like that.
I can't believe I'm actually having to type this. Isn't it obvious, basic stuff? How do these people function if they have to use a urinal?
You kind of develop a thousand yard stare. Viz did a spoof advert years ago for 'urinal blinkers' and it's like that.
I can't believe I'm actually having to type this. Isn't it obvious, basic stuff? How do these people function if they have to use a urinal?
jm8403 said:
Saweep said:
jm8403 said:
ZedLeg said:
That’s the way it goes isn’t it. You get set up with hang ups about body image and nudity when you’re young and it takes 60 years to get over it
It's not hang ups that I don't walk around the changing room and naked and dry my balls with the dryer (the old chaps do this in my gym too)
paul.deitch said:
Haha! You guys that have a problem with nudity in the changing rooms are going to have a heart attack if you ever to to a sauna in Germany/Scandinavia.
Often mixed sex but not always.
Many places you have to be naked and sit on your towel otherwise you'll be asked to leave.
I am not uncomfortable with nudity, but I don't like being naked.Often mixed sex but not always.
Many places you have to be naked and sit on your towel otherwise you'll be asked to leave.
The oddity about the British is they already had a very repressed attitude to sex and nudity before the Americans turned up and banned even a glimpse of a nipple. Now full-on porn is universally available, mainstream TV has nudity programmes and sex guides - but blokes are worried about getting their kit off in a communal changing room. Weird.
The fundamental error is to automatically link "nudity" with "sexual activity".
The fundamental error is to automatically link "nudity" with "sexual activity".
Panamax said:
The oddity about the British is they already had a very repressed attitude to sex and nudity before the Americans turned up and banned even a glimpse of a nipple. Now full-on porn is universally available, mainstream TV has nudity programmes and sex guides - but blokes are worried about getting their kit off in a communal changing room. Weird.
The fundamental error is to automatically link "nudity" with "sexual activity".
It’s all a bit Victorian isn’t it. The fundamental error is to automatically link "nudity" with "sexual activity".
Shame really because I think it impacts an awful lot of people quite directly - a lot of insecurity about bodies in general. I used to see so many people swimming in t shirts and things as a lifeguard. I feel like if people were more relaxed and I guess aware that bodies are really not that interesting, and all different, there would be a lot less of that.
gregs656 said:
I feel like if people were more relaxed and I guess aware that bodies are really not that interesting, and all different, there would be a lot less of that.
Agreed. Bizarrely my local swimming pool has recently put up notices by the pool prohibiting the use of "cameras or any other recording devices".Next thing you know they'll bring back those Victorian bathing machines/caravans so no one gets seen on the beach!
"The bathing machine was a device, popular from the 18th century until the early 20th century, to allow people to change out of their usual clothes, change into swimwear, and wade in the ocean at beaches. Bathing machines were roofed and walled wooden carts rolled into the sea. Some had solid wooden walls, others canvas walls over a wooden frame, and commonly walls at the sides and curtained doors at each end." - Wikipedia
Skeptisk said:
I read an article in the newspaper this morning about a surfing club in Australia that has banned nudity in their changing rooms. Apparently surfers have to shower in their costumes and then change using a towel. To be clear, this is in single sex changing rooms, not mixed changing rooms.
Apparently to “protect the children”. Personally I would think it as a good way of giving some children a completely messed up relationship with their own bodies.
I was a bit surprised as even in the UK growing up in the 70s we had to shower naked after sport. Is this of nonsense spreading to the U.K. too?
Having lived in countries where mixed naked saunas are not unusual it does seem a bit baffling.
I have to say I found it very odd and weird a bunch of guys happy to get their arse and ding dong out all in one room. I’d much rather change in private. Why you’d call it nonsense is beyond me. Maybe it’s no better than me calling your weird to be happy to do it. Apparently to “protect the children”. Personally I would think it as a good way of giving some children a completely messed up relationship with their own bodies.
I was a bit surprised as even in the UK growing up in the 70s we had to shower naked after sport. Is this of nonsense spreading to the U.K. too?
Having lived in countries where mixed naked saunas are not unusual it does seem a bit baffling.
Bill said:
I don't have any issue with nudity now, I've been to nudist beaches and used shared saunas etc on the continent, but in an open changing room would always be discreet. It just seems a bit unnecessary parading about with your tackle out.
Pretty much this… nudity is not a problem per see in the designated places like nudist spots, etc.What I always found weird was people lingering naked more than necessary in a changing room. It’s odd behaviour…
As for my comment on common decency it’s in the context of a normal public place. It’s common decency to not be naked more than necessary unless nudist place. A changing room is a changing room. Perhaps not many people are interested in seeing others scratching their balls in plain sight. Get showered, get changed, job done.
We are all different but the thought of sitting on a beach with sand on my tackle doesn’t sound comfortable to me neither does building a sandcastle or playing rackets or footie with my children in the beach with dangling bits…. Each to their own.
ZedLeg said:
Didn’t read it, just think it’s funny that folk seem to have a stock of articles that confirm their opinion from websites that look like they’ve been designed by children.
That site was in some other tread or reply here very recently. I had a look at some of the articles to see what they're on about and they seem to accurately report on the issues which concern them. Such as this: https://reduxx.info/aus-liberal-party-to-expel-fem... which gave a different slant to the events portrayed in the media and puts in a lot of missing detail, which in turn illustrates how this wider issue is being weaponised by those seeking to attain and coalesce power.rodericb said:
ZedLeg said:
Didn’t read it, just think it’s funny that folk seem to have a stock of articles that confirm their opinion from websites that look like they’ve been designed by children.
That site was in some other tread or reply here very recently. I had a look at some of the articles to see what they're on about and they seem to accurately report on the issues which concern them. Such as this: https://reduxx.info/aus-liberal-party-to-expel-fem... which gave a different slant to the events portrayed in the media and puts in a lot of missing detail, which in turn illustrates how this wider issue is being weaponised by those seeking to attain and coalesce power.If all someone talks about is “the dangers of trans ideology”, they aren’t pro women, they’re anti trans.
Also remember that actual neo nazis turned out for KJK in Australia. Even if I didn’t think that trans people deserve the rights they have, I don’t think I’d be tying my flag to her mast.
Edited by ZedLeg on Sunday 2nd April 05:43
ZedLeg said:
rodericb said:
ZedLeg said:
Didn’t read it, just think it’s funny that folk seem to have a stock of articles that confirm their opinion from websites that look like they’ve been designed by children.
That site was in some other tread or reply here very recently. I had a look at some of the articles to see what they're on about and they seem to accurately report on the issues which concern them. Such as this: https://reduxx.info/aus-liberal-party-to-expel-fem... which gave a different slant to the events portrayed in the media and puts in a lot of missing detail, which in turn illustrates how this wider issue is being weaponised by those seeking to attain and coalesce power.If all someone talks about is “the dangers of trans ideology”, they aren’t pro women, they’re anti trans.
Also remember that actual neo nazis turned out for KJK in Australia. Even if I didn’t think that trans people deserve the rights they have, I don’t think I’d be tying my flag to her mast.
Edited by ZedLeg on Sunday 2nd April 05:43
article said:
In an article published by XYZ, an influential propaganda outlet for the broader neo-Nazi movement in Australia, Hiscox claimed Keen’s intention was to reduce the white birth rate. Hiscox also stated his Neo-Nazi group’s goal for turning up at the rally was to hijack Keen’s fight against gender ideology as she was “misdirecting them to reinforce the progress of Liberalism and maintain support for Israel.”
That seems an odd way for those neo nazis to "tie their flag" to the Let Women Speak event or Kellie-Jay Keen. As odd as asserting that the change room policies of some surf club in the Northern Beaches of New South Wales is dictated by some anti-trans cabal?I do not know you, apart from what you write here on this forum. If you have feelings that you may not be living your true identity there'll be plenty of people here to support you, some who will oppose it for whatever reason and those who will take your battle on for you and inadvertently stuff it up for you. That last group will be the most toxic for you. You can be different and if that's what you are then that's what you are.
The long and the short of 'no nudity' rules in leisure centres is don't walk around with your private parts on display.
If other people are around and you're planning on getting a shower, or have come from a shower or heading to/from the pool, then get (at least basic) changed/decent in a shower cubicle or changing cubicle.
Nobody wants or should have to look at another person nude IMO.
As I child it was commonplace during things like trips to swimming sessions to see men and boys casually strutting around nude in the changing areas without a care in the world. It's a sight I've also seen in adult life as well, so nothing has really changed there!
I've also never understood people who use the shower cubicles yet don't close the door.
If other people are around and you're planning on getting a shower, or have come from a shower or heading to/from the pool, then get (at least basic) changed/decent in a shower cubicle or changing cubicle.
Nobody wants or should have to look at another person nude IMO.
As I child it was commonplace during things like trips to swimming sessions to see men and boys casually strutting around nude in the changing areas without a care in the world. It's a sight I've also seen in adult life as well, so nothing has really changed there!
I've also never understood people who use the shower cubicles yet don't close the door.
rodericb said:
ZedLeg said:
rodericb said:
ZedLeg said:
Didn’t read it, just think it’s funny that folk seem to have a stock of articles that confirm their opinion from websites that look like they’ve been designed by children.
That site was in some other tread or reply here very recently. I had a look at some of the articles to see what they're on about and they seem to accurately report on the issues which concern them. Such as this: https://reduxx.info/aus-liberal-party-to-expel-fem... which gave a different slant to the events portrayed in the media and puts in a lot of missing detail, which in turn illustrates how this wider issue is being weaponised by those seeking to attain and coalesce power.If all someone talks about is “the dangers of trans ideology”, they aren’t pro women, they’re anti trans.
Also remember that actual neo nazis turned out for KJK in Australia. Even if I didn’t think that trans people deserve the rights they have, I don’t think I’d be tying my flag to her mast.
Edited by ZedLeg on Sunday 2nd April 05:43
article said:
In an article published by XYZ, an influential propaganda outlet for the broader neo-Nazi movement in Australia, Hiscox claimed Keen’s intention was to reduce the white birth rate. Hiscox also stated his Neo-Nazi group’s goal for turning up at the rally was to hijack Keen’s fight against gender ideology as she was “misdirecting them to reinforce the progress of Liberalism and maintain support for Israel.”
That seems an odd way for those neo nazis to "tie their flag" to the Let Women Speak event or Kellie-Jay Keen. As odd as asserting that the change room policies of some surf club in the Northern Beaches of New South Wales is dictated by some anti-trans cabal?I do not know you, apart from what you write here on this forum. If you have feelings that you may not be living your true identity there'll be plenty of people here to support you, some who will oppose it for whatever reason and those who will take your battle on for you and inadvertently stuff it up for you. That last group will be the most toxic for you. You can be different and if that's what you are then that's what you are.
Context is everything though. I knew someone who went on a post-divorce girlie holiday with her best buddy to the Canary Islands, she'd said that she was determined to enjoy herself in every way possible including trying out a naturist beach which her ex-husband would never do.
When actually got there she decided the site of "fat Germans with big dicks strutting around the beach" put her right off
When actually got there she decided the site of "fat Germans with big dicks strutting around the beach" put her right off
rodericb said:
ZedLeg said:
rodericb said:
ZedLeg said:
liner33 said:
It seems clear to me why they have brought in this policy, they dont want young girls/women seeing a penis in the changing rooms, seems entirely fair and reasonable
Or it's anti trans hysteria leading to new puritanism, which is what everyone said would happen.But if you want to broach that subject: https://reduxx.info/women-file-lawsuit-against-uni...
Yep, nu puritanism....
Whenever people post stories about men winning medals in female sport, or male rapists being sent to womens's prisons etc - he says 'crank website' and acts like it's not happening.
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