CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 19)

CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 19)

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BabySharkDD

15,077 posts

170 months

Thursday 14th March
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Biker 1 said:
Challo said:
Good little sheep? You’re coming across quite condescending.

I suspect a lot of people were following guidance / rules because they came from the government and experts. It was an unknown virus, most people knew fk all about, so in those scenarios you look to leaders to provide information and help you get through.

Given the fact things were evolving all the time, new information every day, lots of misinformation via social media. No wonder people were ‘good little sheep’ in your mind.
Bloody hell. Are there really people who still think like this???
It was completely obvious from the Diamond Princess.
Also clear from Italy that it was mainly the morbidly obese elderly at risk. Again this was seen in U.K. hospitals, but the media pushed a false narrative of dying if you get the ‘Rona rolleyes



B'stard Child

28,454 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th March
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BabySharkDD said:
Also clear from Italy that it was mainly the morbidly obese elderly at risk. Again this was seen in U.K. hospitals, but the media pushed a false narrative of dying if you get the ‘Rona rolleyes
Saw thro that crap straight away - had it in Nov 2019 and didn’t die…… (end of a lovely holiday in North Vietnam) didn’t realise what I had caught until 2020 not had it since either - figured vaccines were pretty pointless for me too so not bothered with those either hehe

#soclearlyantivaxnutter

jameswills

3,526 posts

44 months

Friday 15th March
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119 said:
jameswills said:
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/online-safety/information...

What about the new legislation being passed to change the meaning of the word “extremism”? Quite Orwellian!
Do you it is a good idea to try and prevent children from seeing harmful content, which is part of what the OSB is about?
Define “harmful”.

It’s up to the parents to look after children, not the government. They didn’t seem too concerned about them when they shut schools and stopped them seeing friends a few years ago. So if you’re buying into that, I’d like to hear how you think this bill will help and what problem you think it’s trying to solve.

jameswills

3,526 posts

44 months

Friday 15th March
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Ari said:
Sad to say, I agree with you completely. The general public just want their chicken dippers and reality TV, they're not interested in what was done to them, or the fallout that we're all now living with. See the 'CT a bit thick' thread for the levels of openly hostile denial that so many operate at.

At best, it's 'GRRR, evil Tories' regarding things like the abysmal state the NHS has been left in, and the colossal waiting lists that shutting it down created, or high levels of inflation caused by spraying billions of pounds into the air. Never mind that Labour wanted to lock down longer and harder.
Bread and circuses. And I put elections into that pot, I think it’s bonkers and hilarious people are actually going to go out of their way to put an X next to anyone near government and think they have their interests at heart and will make their lives better. Closest response to that statement will be “what can we do”. Well with that attitude, nothing.

grumbledoak

31,554 posts

234 months

Friday 15th March
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If there is no such thing as "long COVID" are they going to have to start considering "long vaccine"? That would open some floodgates that they really don't want opened...

Roderick Spode

3,131 posts

50 months

Friday 15th March
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It's interesting to note that the vast majority of 'long Covid' sufferers are those who have willingly and repeatedly rolled their sleeves up like good little citizens, caught Covid repeatedly anyway, then mysteriously suffered from persistent symptoms that broadly align with others enduring a similar syndrome. But there's definitely no such thing as 'long vaccine', because it's entirely safe and effective, and there's nothing to be seen here, you right wing conspiracy nut.

isaldiri

18,633 posts

169 months

Friday 15th March
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g3org3y said:
Oddly enough, that just might have been suggested by some of the Icke supporting antivax conspiracy theorists here that comparing post viral syndromes of equivalent severeity of infection from covid to flu was the relevant metric back in summer 2020 and what (admittedly little) data available at the time suggested covid was likely more serious but not massively so. Clearly was rubbished instantly by a lot of the worthy people elsewhere who delight in calling those suggesting such a thing 'thick' though.....

BabySharkDD

15,077 posts

170 months

Friday 15th March
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grumbledoak said:
If there is no such thing as "long COVID" are they going to have to start considering "long vaccine"? That would open some floodgates that they really don't want opened...
Can’t be long vaccine. They’re safe and effective silly

jameswills

3,526 posts

44 months

Friday 15th March
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grumbledoak said:
If there is no such thing as "long COVID" are they going to have to start considering "long vaccine"? That would open some floodgates that they really don't want opened...
Careful, I got a post removed when I commented about long Covid. The epidemic of “short illness” also needs to be looked into

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68500871

119

6,446 posts

37 months

Friday 15th March
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Roderick Spode said:
It's interesting to note that the vast majority of 'long Covid' sufferers are those who have willingly and repeatedly rolled their sleeves up like good little citizens, caught Covid repeatedly anyway, then mysteriously suffered from persistent symptoms that broadly align with others enduring a similar syndrome. But there's definitely no such thing as 'long vaccine', because it's entirely safe and effective, and there's nothing to be seen here, you right wing conspiracy nut.
“They also said because 90% of people in Queensland were vaccinated when Omicron emerged, the lower severity of long Covid could be due to vaccination and the variant.”

So, it doesn’t specially state how many vaccines they have had, but those do suffer from long covid have supposedly benefited from having them.

r3g

3,241 posts

25 months

Friday 15th March
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Roderick Spode said:
It's interesting to note that the vast majority of 'long Covid' sufferers are those who have willingly and repeatedly rolled their sleeves up like good little citizens, caught Covid repeatedly anyway, then mysteriously suffered from persistent symptoms that broadly align with others enduring a similar syndrome.
This has been the case since the end of 2020 when the jabs first appeared. It continues to amaze me to this day that so very few people have been able to see the obvious connection.

BigMon

4,225 posts

130 months

Friday 15th March
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jameswills said:
Bread and circuses. And I put elections into that pot, I think it’s bonkers and hilarious people are actually going to go out of their way to put an X next to anyone near government and think they have their interests at heart and will make their lives better. Closest response to that statement will be “what can we do”. Well with that attitude, nothing.
And what are you suggesting as an alternative to our democratic process then?

alangla

4,848 posts

182 months

Friday 15th March
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r3g said:
This has been the case since the end of 2020 when the jabs first appeared. It continues to amaze me to this day that so very few people have been able to see the obvious connection.
Long Covid was definitely being talked about in the summer of 2020 as I recall, pretty sure it predates the vaccines and, as Isaldiri says, it was thought by plenty on here then to be simply a post-viral complication, similar to those experienced after other viruses of similar severity.

isaldiri

18,633 posts

169 months

Friday 15th March
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Long covid definitely was a thing post spring 2020 and in fact it was regularly used as one of the justifications for masks/lockdowns etc when those were implemented/reintroduced later in the year as well as being one of the reasons the zero covid bunch were continuing to push for eradication......

Hants PHer

5,757 posts

112 months

Friday 15th March
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alangla said:
Long Covid was definitely being talked about in the summer of 2020 as I recall, pretty sure it predates the vaccines and, as Isaldiri says, it was thought by plenty on here then to be simply a post-viral complication, similar to those experienced after other viruses of similar severity.
Indeed. Of course, if someone is convinced that the vaccines caused long Covid, and someone is 'amazed' that people can't see the 'obvious' connection, then someone will probably ignore this inconvenient truth. rolleyes

BabySharkDD

15,077 posts

170 months

Friday 15th March
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Roderick Spode said:
It's interesting to note that the vast majority of 'long Covid' sufferers are those who have willingly and repeatedly rolled their sleeves up like good little citizens, caught Covid repeatedly anyway, then mysteriously suffered from persistent symptoms that broadly align with others enduring a similar syndrome. But there's definitely no such thing as 'long vaccine', because it's entirely safe and effective, and there's nothing to be seen here, you right wing conspiracy nut.
A minority will be suffering post viral fatigue.
A minority will be suffering side effects conspiracy theories from the safe and effective
Most will be suffering from mental illness following the years of psychological onslaught

zarjaz1991

3,493 posts

124 months

Friday 15th March
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I’ve always found it funny how Long Covid doesn’t seem to affect the self-employed. Curious.

J210

4,534 posts

184 months

Friday 15th March
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"Prof Philip Britton, a paediatric infectious diseases physician from the University of Sydney and a member of the Long Covid Australia Collaboration, welcomed the study given the lack of published research from Australia in this area.

However, Britton said the study’s conclusion that it was time to stop using terms such as long Covid was “overstated and potentially unhelpful. Long Covid has been a global phenomenon, recognised by WHO.”


Grifter from a long covid collaboration response

Well the WHO said it so it must be real.

Roderick Spode

3,131 posts

50 months

Friday 15th March
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Hants PHer said:
alangla said:
Long Covid was definitely being talked about in the summer of 2020 as I recall, pretty sure it predates the vaccines and, as Isaldiri says, it was thought by plenty on here then to be simply a post-viral complication, similar to those experienced after other viruses of similar severity.
Indeed. Of course, if someone is convinced that the vaccines caused long Covid, and someone is 'amazed' that people can't see the 'obvious' connection, then someone will probably ignore this inconvenient truth. rolleyes
The conflation of post-viral fatigue and vaccine side effects into one convenient package called 'Long Covid' has not been helpful for either group of sufferers. It has allowed the medical community to airily dismiss long term health implications of Covid infection, whilst simultaneously being able to ignore the inconvenient source of vaccine-induced harms.

Sustained lung deficiency? Long Covid. Heart palpitations? Long Covid. Chronic neuralgia? Long Covid. Uncontrolled menstrual bleeding? Errr... Long Covid.

Definitely not the safe and effective. No siree. Long Covid, innit?