Sycamore gap tree felled - Words Fail Me
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TheJimi said:
Eric Mc said:
So it's significance was its age and location.
It wasn't THAT old by tree standards.
and that makes it ok?It wasn't THAT old by tree standards.
I was asking if the tree had any genuine historical associations. Was it planted by the Romans, for instance.
It turns out its significance was its age but it wasn't as old as many other trees.
Eric Mc said:
I didn't say it was OK.
I was asking if the tree had any genuine historical associations. Was it planted by the Romans, for instance.
It turns out its significance was its age but it wasn't as old as many other trees.
The significance was very much just the location and it's use in art and local tourism. The only person that's brought up it's age is you I was asking if the tree had any genuine historical associations. Was it planted by the Romans, for instance.
It turns out its significance was its age but it wasn't as old as many other trees.
. Young or old it was a t
tty thing to do (the felling, for clarity).English Tree of the Year 2016, apparently. I didn't know there was such a thing, but now I'm wondering about whether Tree of the Year should have an automatic Tree Preservation Order applied.
Some interesting wording from the Northumberland National Park page about the location : Sycamore Gap : The most photographed spot in the whole of Northumberland National Park.
"The circular wall nearby protects a small replacement sycamore sapling from the local sheep, who would otherwise nibble on it. Sycamore Gap is looked after by both Northumberland National Park and the National Trust."
"Replacement" implies someone was anticipating that the tree was going away at some stage - whether that was in 50 years or so, and indicates some very forward thinking, or there's some skull-duggery afoot, remains to be seen.
Some interesting wording from the Northumberland National Park page about the location : Sycamore Gap : The most photographed spot in the whole of Northumberland National Park.
"The circular wall nearby protects a small replacement sycamore sapling from the local sheep, who would otherwise nibble on it. Sycamore Gap is looked after by both Northumberland National Park and the National Trust."
"Replacement" implies someone was anticipating that the tree was going away at some stage - whether that was in 50 years or so, and indicates some very forward thinking, or there's some skull-duggery afoot, remains to be seen.
Eric Mc said:
TheJimi said:
Eric Mc said:
So it's significance was its age and location.
It wasn't THAT old by tree standards.
and that makes it ok?It wasn't THAT old by tree standards.
I was asking if the tree had any genuine historical associations. Was it planted by the Romans, for instance.
It turns out its significance was its age but it wasn't as old as many other trees.
Not a headline I expected to see today. Utter scummy thing to do. I'm pretty sure much of Whin Sill is under National Trust ownership / care. Felling the tree won't allow better access to anywhere, so I'd be surprised if it's a begrudged farmer. People will still flock to that part of the wall anyway, as it's accessible and opposite the Sill Visitor Centre and a decent pub, so footfall won't be reduced because of this.
Someone's gone to a lot of effort to do this and for what appears to be no gain, just pure vandalism.
Someone's gone to a lot of effort to do this and for what appears to be no gain, just pure vandalism.
BikeBikeBIke said:
eharding said:
"Replacement" implies someone was anticipating that the tree was going away at some stage - whether that was in 50 years or so, and indicates some very forward thinking, or there's some skull-duggery afoot, remains to be seen.
You think the sapling was in on it? 
sanguinary said:
Someone's gone to a lot of effort to do this and for what appears to be no gain, just pure vandalism.
I'm now starting to wonder if other Trees of the Year have suffered a similar unexplained fate, and whether the police might actually have a serial logger on their hands. You may scoff, but that means there's a nutter with a chainsaw and a grudge out there, and those scenarios rarely end well. Eric Mc said:
TheJimi said:
Eric Mc said:
So it's significance was its age and location.
It wasn't THAT old by tree standards.
and that makes it ok?It wasn't THAT old by tree standards.
I was asking if the tree had any genuine historical associations. Was it planted by the Romans, for instance.
It turns out its significance was its age but it wasn't as old as many other trees.
One one hand, you appear to be consistently downplaying the significance of the tree, and on the other, you're saying that you're not saying it's ok.
eharding said:
sanguinary said:
Someone's gone to a lot of effort to do this and for what appears to be no gain, just pure vandalism.
I'm now starting to wonder if other Trees of the Year have suffered a similar unexplained fate, and whether the police might actually have a serial logger on their hands. You may scoff, but that means there's a nutter with a chainsaw and a grudge out there, and those scenarios rarely end well. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff