Israel invaded

[Fundoreen]

Do they really need to lie so much. What else isn't true.

https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/202...

[Countdown]

don'tbesilly said:

911hope said:

Worse case scenario is that the Israeli's intend to exterminate or expell all Palestinians from Gaza.

Do the war enthusiasts on here, endorse that course of action?

The problem you have is that scenario isn’t one the Israeli’s would endorse, so asking “the war enthusiasts” on here whether it’s a course of action they would endorse is a futile exercise, and I’m surprised anyone would come up with such a scenario in the first place and go on to ask such a question.

Various Israeli politicians have openly advocated for the expulsion of all Palestinians from Gaza (and then re-populating with Israeli Settlers). The same thing has been happening in the West Bank for decades in a piecemeal fashion.

[swisstoni]

Fundoreen said:

Do they really need to lie so much. What else isn't true.

https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/202...

Perhaps Hamas only came over the border to borrow some milk, eh?

[KarlMac]

Fundoreen said:

Do they really need to lie so much. What else isn't true.

https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/202...

Are we really back at the point of ”Well they only murdered the babies, they didn’t behead them” in this argument? Didn’t we cover this weeks ago?

Although finding article that’s anti-Israel on The Canary of all places couldn’t have been that hard.

[Countdown]

swisstoni said:

Fundoreen said:

Do they really need to lie so much. What else isn't true.

https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/202...

Perhaps Hamas only came over the border to borrow some milk, eh?

The thing is that BS was and is constantly being repeated even though it's been debunked. There are also uncertainties about the "rocket" which hit the hospital - Israel said it had clear evidence that it was a misfiring rocket but this hasn't been provided. It's basically propaganda.

[williamp]

Fundoreen said:

Do they really need to lie so much. What else isn't true.

https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/202...

Youre quoting the canary??? Jesus christ...

Thats as bad as the bbc saying those guns found in the hospital could have been part of their security equipment..

[markiii]

911hope said:

P. ONeill said:

Former Israeli Prime Minister explaining to CNN that Israel built the bunkers under Al Shifa hospital in the 1980s.

https://twitter.com/moufidmostafa/status/172673569...

If this is true, they should be able to find them!!!!

Because nothing gets altered in 40 years?

Edited by markiii on Wednesday 22 November 09:21

[markiii]

911hope said:

Worse case scenario is that the Israeli's intend to exterminate or expell all Palestinians from Gaza.

Do the war enthusiasts on here, endorse that course of action?

You mean your made up worst case scenario again? Fantasist

[Polly Grigora]

Fundoreen said:

Do they really need to lie so much. What else isn't true.

https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/202...

Yes they do

There wouldn't be so many posters here supporting Israel bombing the st out of civilians in Gaza if the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth was the order of the day

Strangely, those here that support slaughter will go to great lengths in handing out a load of st in the direction of those that want the slaughter to stop

I wonder if there will be a time in the future when many here realise that they've been had over? I doubt it!

[markiii]

Reading your posts so do i

[julian987R]

Polly Grigora said:

Yes they do

There wouldn't be so many posters here supporting Israel bombing the st out of civilians in Gaza if the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth was the order of the day

Strangely, those here that support slaughter will go to great lengths in handing out a load of st in the direction of those that want the slaughter to stop

I wonder if there will be a time in the future when many here realise that they've been had over? I doubt it!

If you see a lovely field with a family having a picnic, and there’s a nice pond in it, you fill in the pond with concrete, you plough the family into the field, you blow up the tree, and use the leaves to make a dress for your wife who’s also your brother.

[Gecko1978]

Polly Grigora said:

Fundoreen said:

Do they really need to lie so much. What else isn't true.

https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/202...

Yes they do

There wouldn't be so many posters here supporting Israel bombing the st out of civilians in Gaza if the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth was the order of the day

Strangely, those here that support slaughter will go to great lengths in handing out a load of st in the direction of those that want the slaughter to stop

I wonder if there will be a time in the future when many here realise that they've been had over? I doubt it!

Let's say it stops tomorrow, Wednesday...then what do you want to happen

[isaldiri]

Countdown said:

Various Israeli politicians have openly advocated for the expulsion of all Palestinians from Gaza (and then re-populating with Israeli Settlers). The same thing has been happening in the West Bank for decades in a piecemeal fashion.

Quite. A current member of the Israel government just stated a week or so ago that 'they were rolling out Gaza Nakhba' and that was how this would end so it's far from an impossible situation for israel to be endorsing as suggested either....

[Gecko1978]

isaldiri said:

Countdown said:

Various Israeli politicians have openly advocated for the expulsion of all Palestinians from Gaza (and then re-populating with Israeli Settlers). The same thing has been happening in the West Bank for decades in a piecemeal fashion.

Quite. A current member of the Israel government just stated a week or so ago that 'they were rolling out Gaza Nakhba' and that was how this would end so it's far from an impossible situation for israel to be endorsing as suggested either....

Again let's say it stops tomorrow what do you want to happen

[julian987R]

isaldiri said:

Quite. A current member of the Israel government just stated a week or so ago that 'they were rolling out Gaza Nakhba' and that was how this would end so it's far from an impossible situation for israel to be endorsing as suggested either....

Pastries?

[911hope]

McGee_22 said:

911hope said:

Worse case scenario is that the Israeli's intend to exterminate or expell all Palestinians from Gaza.

Do the war enthusiasts on here, endorse that course of action?

Do you have a source for this or is this more made up stuff?

Do you understand what a scenario is?

It is simply something that could happen or could be the case. Does not need a source.

Notice that you you didn't say you would disapprove of such an action. So perhaps you could make your position clear on this.

[SweptVolume]

Gecko1978 said:

Polly Grigora said:

Fundoreen said:

Do they really need to lie so much. What else isn't true.

https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/202...

Yes they do

There wouldn't be so many posters here supporting Israel bombing the st out of civilians in Gaza if the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth was the order of the day

Strangely, those here that support slaughter will go to great lengths in handing out a load of st in the direction of those that want the slaughter to stop

I wonder if there will be a time in the future when many here realise that they've been had over? I doubt it!

Let's say it stops tomorrow, Wednesday...then what do you want to happen

I understand why people want to see a ceasefire, really I do, but what will be the inevitable result of one? At some point, Hamas, or one of the other extremist Palestinian groups, will break the ceasefire, either with a barrage of relatively ineffectual rockets, or with another highly effective incursion into Israel for some more raping and pillaging.

Then, presumably, Israel retaliate by bombing the Gaza strip and the cycle continues.

Both sides need to change up their governments for ones more conciliatory to the position of the other side and maybe a peace deal can be rekindled. Until then, they'll just keep going at each other and lots more people suffer. A ceasefire tomorrow won't change that.

Edited by SweptVolume on Tuesday 21st November 21:58

[Gecko1978]

SweptVolume said:

I understand why people want to see a ceasefire, really I do, but what will be the inevitable result of one? At some point, Hamas, or one of the other extremist Palestinian groups, will break the ceasefire, either with a barrage of relatively ineffectual rockets, or with another highly effective incursion into Israel for some more raping and pillaging.

Then, presumably, Israel retaliate by bombing the Gaza strip and the cycle continues.

It's quite interesting, stop the invasion but then what do Israel have to rebuild do the masterminds of the attack face war crimes. I wonder given Gaza has not had elections if Israel moved to say America and left the ME would hamas hold elections introduce democracy etc

[Countdown]

SweptVolume said:

I understand why people want to see a ceasefire, really I do, but what will be the inevitable result of one? At some point, Hamas, or one of the other extremist Palestinian groups, will break the ceasefire, either with a barrage of relatively ineffectual rockets, or with another highly effective incursion into Israel for some more raping and pillaging.

Then, presumably, Israel retaliate by bombing the Gaza strip and the cycle continues.

Both sides need to change up their governments for ones more conciliatory to the position of the other side and maybe a peace deal can be rekindled. Until then, they'll just keep going at each other and lots more people suffer. A ceasefire tomorrow won't change that.

Edited by SweptVolume on Tuesday 21st November 21:58

What more would you expect the Palestinian Authority to do? They’ve done pretty much everything that Israel has told them to do and got nowhere. All that’s happened is that Settlements have increased and Palestinians have been killed. At the moment that seems to be the only option for Palestinians- do nothing and be killed or fight back like Hamas and be killed.

Maybe if the international community held Israel to account for once that might make some progress? Everybody agrees that settlements are illegal and everyone can see that they prevent the Palestinians from having their own country. But no Western country seems to want to point out the obvious.

Edited by Countdown on Tuesday 21st November 22:30

[Gecko1978]

Countdown said:

SweptVolume said:

I understand why people want to see a ceasefire, really I do, but what will be the inevitable result of one? At some point, Hamas, or one of the other extremist Palestinian groups, will break the ceasefire, either with a barrage of relatively ineffectual rockets, or with another highly effective incursion into Israel for some more raping and pillaging.

Then, presumably, Israel retaliate by bombing the Gaza strip and the cycle continues.

Both sides need to change up their governments for ones more conciliatory to the position of the other side and maybe a peace deal can be rekindled. Until then, they'll just keep going at each other and lots more people suffer. A ceasefire tomorrow won't change that.

Edited by SweptVolume on Tuesday 21st November 21:58

What more would you expect the Palestinian Authority to do? They’ve done pretty much everything that Israel has told them to do and got nowhere. All that’s happened is that Settlements have increased and Palestinians have been killed. At the moment that seems to be the only option for Palestinians- do nothing and be killed or fight back like Hamas and be killed.

Maybe if the international community held Israel to account for once that might make some progress? Everybody agrees that settlements are illegal and everyone can see that they prevent the Palestinians from having their own country. But no Western country seems to want to point out the obvious.

Edited by Countdown on Tuesday 21st November 22:30

So what should happen?