Policing of pro Palestinian marches
Discussion
Hants PHer said:
Mojooo said:
What if your view is that the Israelis are acting like the Nazis - is that anti Semitic or just fair comment?
I'm unequivocal on this. It's anti semitic, full stop. Unacceptable as part of any protest and I'm astonished that any police officer could think anything else.IMO the word doesn't necessarily mean gassing Jews and starting a World war..it can be descriptive of a type of behaviour.
That said, I wouldn't walk around with a Swastika to show my disapproval of Israel.
Vanden Saab said:
ZedLeg said:
Just to show how silly this kind of whataboutism is, here’s a video of a pro ukraine protest in London from last month.
https://youtu.be/4Vu35Ff0cKM?si=xzqXK5fHxLSuZFjD
Nobody dressed in terroist uniforms, they really haven't got the hang of it have they. https://youtu.be/4Vu35Ff0cKM?si=xzqXK5fHxLSuZFjD
Hants PHer said:
Mojooo said:
What if your view is that the Israelis are acting like the Nazis - is that anti Semitic or just fair comment?
I'm unequivocal on this. It's anti semitic, full stop. Unacceptable as part of any protest and I'm astonished that any police officer could think anything else.I’m not Jewish but I am deeply offended by the swastika being displayed on our streets ,as should everyone else be ffs.There can be no argument about it, it’s abhorrent.
and31 said:
Hants PHer said:
Mojooo said:
What if your view is that the Israelis are acting like the Nazis - is that anti Semitic or just fair comment?
I'm unequivocal on this. It's anti semitic, full stop. Unacceptable as part of any protest and I'm astonished that any police officer could think anything else.I’m not Jewish but I am deeply offended by the swastika being displayed on our streets ,as should everyone else be ffs.There can be no argument about it, it’s abhorrent.
Hants PHer said:
I'm unequivocal on this. It's anti semitic, full stop. Unacceptable as part of any protest and I'm astonished that any police officer could think anything else.
I’m somewhat surprised the woman held it together as much as she did when he dropped the ‘context’ bomb.I know it’s now all dismissed as whataboutery but had I been in the same position the temptation to roar ‘I’ll give you six million f
king contexts you st for brains pork loin’ would have been almost irresistible.The met is in a right old mess. From watching his wibbling and somewhat passive aggressive coffee drinking I don’t think they realise they are in the process of losing the confidence of the 150,000 Jews who live in London.
Mojooo said:
She did what everyone seems to do these days - get overly emotional for the video camera knowing it would be seen by millions.
The Met put a statement out saying the person had already been arrested...unsure if true though
So you aren’t offended by the swastika being paraded in our capital city and the police standing by doing fThe Met put a statement out saying the person had already been arrested...unsure if true though
k all? Context? f
k off..and31 said:
Mojooo said:
and31 said:
Mojooo said:
Other than the fact the person had already been arrested?
Are you offended by the swastika on the streets of our capital city?.
On the other hand if the signage said something like' The Israelis are behaving like the Nazis' I could be convinced otherwise. Clearly such messaging would be designed to cut close to the bone/be offensive as it were - but it could be valid comment if you feel the Israelis are behaving badly like the Nazis were.
Mojooo said:
A Nazi style symbol presented in such a way to suggest Jews should be gassed.
On the other hand if the signage said something like' The Israelis are behaving like the Nazis' I could be convinced otherwise. Clearly such messaging would be designed to cut close to the bone/be offensive as it were - but it could be valid comment if you feel the Israelis are behaving badly like the Nazis were.
But the issue isn't "how the Israelis are behaving", is it? The issue is the displaying of a Swastika as part of a protest: the symbol as opposed to some wordy banner. And I repeat: there is no context where a Swastika is an acceptable symbol to be displayed as part of a public protest. None. It is a symbol of hate and has no place in our society. I'm amazed that some coffee-drinking police officer, perhaps with a degree (ah yes, the modern face of British policing) could possibly think otherwise.On the other hand if the signage said something like' The Israelis are behaving like the Nazis' I could be convinced otherwise. Clearly such messaging would be designed to cut close to the bone/be offensive as it were - but it could be valid comment if you feel the Israelis are behaving badly like the Nazis were.
Mojooo said:
and31 said:
Mojooo said:
and31 said:
Mojooo said:
Other than the fact the person had already been arrested?
Are you offended by the swastika on the streets of our capital city?.
On the other hand if the signage said something like' The Israelis are behaving like the Nazis' I could be convinced otherwise. Clearly such messaging would be designed to cut close to the bone/be offensive as it were - but it could be valid comment if you feel the Israelis are behaving badly like the Nazis were.
How can you possibly think it has “ context”?
Mojooo said:
She did what everyone seems to do these days - get overly emotional for the video camera knowing it would be seen by millions.
The Met put a statement out saying the person had already been arrested...unsure if true though
Hmm. So performative emotionalism as opposed to, y’know, actual emotion given the actually horrendous connotations associated with Hm… let me think… the use of a swastika to protest against the Israeli state?The Met put a statement out saying the person had already been arrested...unsure if true though
I *cannot* for the life of me imagine how she was able to calibrate her performative emotion. A truly epic performance.
f
ks sake.I could write an extremely long diatribe about the multilayered clusterf
k which is a) the behaviour of the protesters
b) the response of the police
c) the post you have made in response
Which would dwell at length on the utter bizarro alternative reality we appear now to be living in, but I just genuinely am too sad inside to write it.
How far we have fallen. In just about living memory 6 million Jews were ushered into Gas chambers in the most industrialised effort of mass murder in all of history while under that flag, and the retards and others are connoting this to events in Gaza now. After a live cosplay by Hamas on October 7th.
And meanwhile the police are soft pedalling because of ‘context’.
Words fail me.
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