45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

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Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Claims that Michael Cohen paid $50,000 for a poll that would show trump as a successful businessman

Andrew Weissmann brought up during the Mueller investigation how Hannity and Mannafort conspired
"Paul Manafort and Sean Hannity texted all of the time about strategy, about what Sean Hannity should say at what point and what Paul Manafort should be doing,"


Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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So trumps $175m bond, trump accepted that Knight Specialty Insurance will put aside the funds securing trump's bond and not spend them until the matter is resolved, and to provide monthly statements to the Manhattan District Attorney ensuring compliance, otherwise asset forfeiture starts.

This after is was noted in court that Knight had violated federal law on multiple occasions and that they relied on risk-transfer practices to artificially bolster the surplus it used to cover trump’s bond, that trump hadn't put up the cash as he claimed.

Basically AG James was about to start seizing trumps assets until that was accepted, trump was left with no choice but to agree to anything.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-agrees-to-new-...

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 23 April 06:15

Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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trumps "Access Hollywood" tape, transcript was read out in court yesterday, prosecution wanted to play the tape, but Merchan agreed on the compromise. Many said it was actually worse hearing it read out rather than than in trumps boasting voice.

Prosecution wanted it to show that after that came out, trump was desperate to kill any other salacious stories



Pincher

8,572 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Byker28i said:
Habba as trumps spokesperson went ranting to the press as well, got laughed at

https://www.mediaite.com/media/hot-mic-catches-rep...
Hardly a cacophony of guffaws was it?

Trump is an arse, along with his numerous acolytes but certain sections of the media do try to manufacture and exaggerate scenarios don’t they?

It was ever thus I guess, on both sides of the coin.

Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Even Jesse Watters says trump is golfing rather than campaigning. Lets face it, he's averaged less than one rally a week since he declared, but over 4 rounds of golf a week.

Watters: "The guy needs exercise, he’s usually golfing, and so you’re going to put a man who’s almost 80 sitting in a room like this on his butt for all that time?"

Seems to have taken the Tucker Carlson role at Fox



Edit: Mind you Watters also tried claiming it was just a book keeping error, which wasn't what trumps lawyer claimed as his opening defence. He tried to put all the blame on Cohen saying trump knew nothing about it, it was all Cohens fault.
Watters was behind on the latest trump excuse/defence attempt.

Watters: His lawyer paid Stormy and after the campaign was over, the money was reimbursed and booked as a legal expense.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1782563906659012889

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 23 April 06:47

Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Pincher said:
Byker28i said:
Habba as trumps spokesperson went ranting to the press as well, got laughed at

https://www.mediaite.com/media/hot-mic-catches-rep...
Hardly a cacophony of guffaws was it?

Trump is an arse, along with his numerous acolytes but certain sections of the media do try to manufacture and exaggerate scenarios don’t they?

It was ever thus I guess, on both sides of the coin.
I think the laughing was over the question about where trumps family were as none have come to court to support him. Maybe trump will demand Eric or Don jnr attend as it's been brought up a few times now in the media.

Edit: trump was on the phone being interviewed and was asked about how his family are holding up during his trial.
He didn't answer, made the false claim again about Barrons graduation and attacked the trial.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1782546010079641734

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 23 April 06:49

Pincher

8,572 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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My point was more around the fact that the article suggests that she was being roundly laughed at by those in attendance, of which I imagine there were a few - instead, it sounds more like one (possibly two) having a bit of a chuckle at a private joke.

Like I said, everyone twists stuff to suit their own narrative.

Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Interesting, the WH stopped archiving trumps tweets, tweets were deleted


No DM's archived


and 7 accounts not archived and no doubt stuff deleted. Very handy


Then we know they were using Whatsapp and those messages weren't archived either. We know they stopped recording visitors to the WH in 2017


Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Apparently Rep. Barry Loudermilk is releasing hundreds of hours of nearly blank tape showing only doors, entrances, exits, and security procedures inside the Capitol
https://twitter.com/PiperK/status/1782558435650761...



Handy if anyone wants to have another go at this election?

Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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trump stolen docs trial has Walt Nuata's heavily redacted statement released. He was allegedly told “if even if he gets charged with lying to the FBI, trump will pardon him in 2024” — per cooperating witness Person 16.

“Person 16” warned trump he could be criminally charged if he didn’t return docs (even w out grand jury subpoena): “Whatever you have, give everything back. Let them come here and get everything. Don't give them a noble reason to indict you, because they will.”



“Person 16” told FBI that there were more than 15 boxes Trump initially returned to NARA
Added they thought “Person 5” , described as a total moron, was trying to create cover for his election fraud claims




Many others before have said trump has said the same, offered to pay legal bills if they lie, in the case of Weisselberg, gave him a $1m bonus for lying which got hiom another 5 months in Rikers

Doc here
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscour...


DOJ had cooperation from a senior Trump aide, including post-presidency


FBI codename for the the trump stolen classified docs case is “Plasmic Echo”


Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Pincher said:
My point was more around the fact that the article suggests that she was being roundly laughed at by those in attendance, of which I imagine there were a few - instead, it sounds more like one (possibly two) having a bit of a chuckle at a private joke.

Like I said, everyone twists stuff to suit their own narrative.
It's why I put up sources. wink I'll admit that one is heavily anti-trump

Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Eric trump on Hannity last night

Noted he didn't deny the allegations
Eric Trump: They’re going after the former presidents of the United States, a person beloved by hundreds of millions of people in this country over $130,000
https://twitter.com/i/status/1782583929662312544

That he was busy running the country, there was nothing wrong with the bookkeeping
https://twitter.com/i/status/1782581782912659726

I guess Don Jnr and Eric were supposed to be in charge then...so they would say that?

Hannity also had on Habba and trumps press secretary

Byker28i

60,106 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Every post from trump seems more like a confession of what he's planning?

ScotHill

3,178 posts

110 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Biden is very sensibly, and with a bit of class, publicly staying out of all of this, but I wonder what his take on immunity would be? Along with the other presidents who didn’t get prosecuted for anything after they left office (I.e. all of them).

McGee_22

6,727 posts

180 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Byker28i said:
So trumps $175m bond, trump accepted that Knight Specialty Insurance will put aside the funds securing trump's bond and not spend them until the matter is resolved, and to provide monthly statements to the Manhattan District Attorney ensuring compliance, otherwise asset forfeiture starts.

This after is was noted in court that Knight had violated federal law on multiple occasions and that they relied on risk-transfer practices to artificially bolster the surplus it used to cover trump’s bond, that trump hadn't put up the cash as he claimed.

Basically AG James was about to start seizing trumps assets until that was accepted, trump was left with no choice but to agree to anything.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-agrees-to-new-...

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 23 April 06:15
I was under the impression that the bond had to be deposited with the Court - not ‘monitored’ where it is hardly under the Courts control.

EddieSteadyGo

11,976 posts

204 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Anyone interested in understanding the actual main defence Trump is going to be using, might like to watch this video...

Basically, they are going to say Trump did pay Stormy Daniels. So the invoices, and recording of Cohen etc, all of which the prosecution were relying on Trump denying, suddenly has a lot less importance as Trump will essential admit all that. However, the reason they will use for paying Daniels was to avoid a 'false story' from being published before the election. And that is a 'legitimate business expense'.

So the prosecution are going to need to prove Trump did have an affair with Daniels. And they will need to do that beyond reasonable doubt. However, if you read the evidence from Daniels, she has contradicted herself many times, so it might be hard for the prosecution to reach that threshold.

It is also ironic that the criminal case against Trump effectively will now depend upon whether or not he had an affair or not with Daniels.

From what I've read, I think he probably did have an affair with Daniels. But the way the story about the $130,000 is being presented as the crime of the century is distorted and largely politically motivated imo.

https://youtu.be/hKakzuuznFk?t=382

Voldemort

6,157 posts

279 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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EddieSteadyGo said:
But the way the story about the $130,000 is being presented as the crime of the century is distorted and largely politically motivated imo.
This trial isn't about that.

EddieSteadyGo said:
So the prosecution are going to need to prove Trump did have an affair with Daniels. And they will need to do that beyond reasonable doubt.
I wonder if has kept her copy of the NDA she signed... or, alternatively, I wonder WHY trump paid her $130,000? What reason could there be?

Strangely Brown

10,079 posts

232 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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McGee_22 said:
Byker28i said:
So trumps $175m bond, trump accepted that Knight Specialty Insurance will put aside the funds securing trump's bond and not spend them until the matter is resolved, and to provide monthly statements to the Manhattan District Attorney ensuring compliance, otherwise asset forfeiture starts.

This after is was noted in court that Knight had violated federal law on multiple occasions and that they relied on risk-transfer practices to artificially bolster the surplus it used to cover trump’s bond, that trump hadn't put up the cash as he claimed.

Basically AG James was about to start seizing trumps assets until that was accepted, trump was left with no choice but to agree to anything.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-agrees-to-new-...

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 23 April 06:15
I was under the impression that the bond had to be deposited with the Court - not ‘monitored’ where it is hardly under the Courts control.
Likewise. This bond looks more like a total con every time I hear something new.

Once again, he is being allowed latitude where nobody else would be.

Astacus

3,384 posts

235 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Byker28i said:
Every post from trump seems more like a confession of what he's planning?
No way did he write that!

EddieSteadyGo

11,976 posts

204 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Voldemort said:
I wonder if has kept her copy of the NDA she signed... or, alternatively, I wonder WHY trump paid her $130,000? What reason could there be?
Er.... I already answered that... and it is covered in the video... he is going to say it was a 'false story' which he didn't want to address publicly in the run up to the 2016 election. So he will say he paid her to prevent the story from coming out.

If it was a false story, that would be a 'legitimate business expense.' So the prosecution are going to show it was a true story. It makes all their focus on the Cohen recording, and the invoice analysis etc have much less relevance to the case.