45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

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wong

1,289 posts

217 months

Thursday 18th April
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DanL said:
Does anyone else have the impression that Trump honestly thought that being President was like being a king or CEO of a country, and as a result he could do absolutely anything he wanted without any comeback, because “he’s the boss”?

I think he might actually be that stupid…
This is a guy who thought 'stealth' fighters were ACTUALLY invisible.
This is a guy who thought injecting bleach would be a feasible idea.
This is a guy who thought you could fight nature by nuking a hurricane.
etc...

I think he is much, much more stupid than than you previously thought.

DanL

6,216 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th April
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wong said:
DanL said:
Does anyone else have the impression that Trump honestly thought that being President was like being a king or CEO of a country, and as a result he could do absolutely anything he wanted without any comeback, because “he’s the boss”?

I think he might actually be that stupid…
This is a guy who thought 'stealth' fighters were ACTUALLY invisible.
This is a guy who thought injecting bleach would be a feasible idea.
This is a guy who thought you could fight nature by nuking a hurricane.
etc...

I think he is much, much more stupid than than you previously thought.
That would be a pretty low bar he’s limboing under. biggrin

Speed 3

4,581 posts

120 months

Thursday 18th April
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Byker28i said:
Marge is trying to introduce an amendment requiring members to “conscript in the Ukrainian military” if they vote for the Ukraine supplemental bill.


And to use (Jewish?) space lasers to defend the border



In response, Rep Moskowitz says he'll introduce an amendment appointing Marge as Putin’s Special Envoy to Congress.
https://twitter.com/JaredEMoskowitz/status/1780766...


Supplementary amendments listed here
https://rules.house.gov/bill/118/hr-8034

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 18th April 06:50
Shows how low the batst crazy are getting to disrupt important political process.

98elise

26,643 posts

162 months

Thursday 18th April
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Byker28i said:
DanL said:
Does anyone else have the impression that Trump honestly thought that being President was like being a king or CEO of a country, and as a result he could do absolutely anything he wanted without any comeback, because “he’s the boss”?

I think he might actually be that stupid…
Wanted to run the country the way he ran his company, just putting Yes men around him that would do what he wanted.
He's a pathological liar, likely with a narcissistic personality disorder. When he thinks or says says something be believes it to be true, even where the facts contradict his opinion.

Running his own company meant he's had decades of positive reinforcement that his facts are the truth.


Bonefish Blues

26,780 posts

224 months

Thursday 18th April
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98elise said:
Byker28i said:
DanL said:
Does anyone else have the impression that Trump honestly thought that being President was like being a king or CEO of a country, and as a result he could do absolutely anything he wanted without any comeback, because “he’s the boss”?

I think he might actually be that stupid…
Wanted to run the country the way he ran his company, just putting Yes men around him that would do what he wanted.
He's a pathological liar, likely with a narcissistic personality disorder. When he thinks or says says something be believes it to be true, even where the facts contradict his opinion.

Running his own company meant he's had decades of positive reinforcement that his facts are the truth.
I punt sociopath.

CivicDuties

4,680 posts

31 months

Thursday 18th April
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wong said:
DanL said:
Does anyone else have the impression that Trump honestly thought that being President was like being a king or CEO of a country, and as a result he could do absolutely anything he wanted without any comeback, because “he’s the boss”?

I think he might actually be that stupid…
This is a guy who thought 'stealth' fighters were ACTUALLY invisible.
This is a guy who thought injecting bleach would be a feasible idea.
This is a guy who thought you could fight nature by nuking a hurricane.
etc...

I think he is much, much more stupid than than you previously thought.
I don't think he's stupid. I think he's uneducated, and been told from an early age that he's better than everyone else, so doesn't need education, and he has taken this to mean he's Number One. I think his arrogance and sense of self-exceptionalism has overtaken his intelligence level. He thinks he doesn't need to read, or learn anything, because he's intrinsically cleverer than anyone else. What he's done is confuse intelligence with knowledge. Maybe that makes him stupid, but it's probably more that he's totally conditioned in those beliefs and it simply can never be changed in his mind and his perception of self. If you look back at interviews with him in say the 1980s, he doesn't come across as stupid.

He is clearly completely deficient in knowledge, and so self confident that he'll never realise that his pronouncements such as those listed above reflect badly on him.

98elise

26,643 posts

162 months

Thursday 18th April
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Bonefish Blues said:
98elise said:
Byker28i said:
DanL said:
Does anyone else have the impression that Trump honestly thought that being President was like being a king or CEO of a country, and as a result he could do absolutely anything he wanted without any comeback, because “he’s the boss”?

I think he might actually be that stupid…
Wanted to run the country the way he ran his company, just putting Yes men around him that would do what he wanted.
He's a pathological liar, likely with a narcissistic personality disorder. When he thinks or says says something be believes it to be true, even where the facts contradict his opinion.

Running his own company meant he's had decades of positive reinforcement that his facts are the truth.
I punt sociopath.
I would agree given his actions and attitude to others. It goes hand in hand with pathological lying and narcissism.

The shame is I don't think he will ever accept that he has done wrong. Even if convicted he will be be convinced he is the victim.

oddman

2,331 posts

253 months

Thursday 18th April
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98elise said:
I would agree given his actions and attitude to others. It goes hand in hand with pathological lying and narcissism.

The shame is I don't think he will ever accept that he has done wrong. Even if convicted he will be be convinced he is the victim.
Shame is the really important word in your last sentence. It's one of the most destructive emotions and the root of a lot of misery, guilt and violence. Very few of us are developed enough to manage shame well. We either have guilt stalking us, are oversensitive to criticism or both.

From a psychological point of view it's the other way round. His mental mechanisms will not accept reality because they are defending against him feeling the terrible and overwhelming shame associated with being a 'loser'.

I think psychopath/narcissist is a bit potato/potato. If you take someone with the seed of neurodevelepomental deficits (lack of empathy/poor impulse control) associated with psychopathy and plant it in the soil trump has developed in you will get a narcissist.

Byker28i

60,015 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th April
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The Kennedy family will be endorsing Biden, not JFK Jnr
https://www.axios.com/2024/04/18/kennedy-family-bi...

Byker28i

60,015 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th April
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trumps facing another income tax evasion investigation over that strange $50 million loan that has been listed by the former president in his disclosures to the court that may or may not exist, that was exposed by Barbera Jones, the court appointed monitor of trump org

CREW have filed asking for the investigation, saying trump has lied about this loan
https://www.thedailybeast.com/complaint-asks-the-f...

Crafty_

13,294 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th April
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Article pointing out how trump has previously criticised rivals for taking donations from the rich, only to now do the exact same himself https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/trump-be...

trump had a rant about Jmmy Kimmel yesterday, in part confusing him with Al Pacino. Kimmel threw it right back during his show dubbing trump "Ranta Claus" https://www.thedailybeast.com/jimmy-kimmel-lays-in...

Oh and dear marge bless her has gone back to space lasers, this time as something the US should fund to protect the border https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-de...

absolute lunatic.



Byker28i

60,015 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th April
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trumps carried on funneling campaign money into his business.

trump’s joint fundraising committee wrote three checks in February and one in March to magalagoclub in Palm Beach, Florida, totaling $411,287 and another in March to trump National Doral Miami for $62,337, according to a report filed to the Federal Election Commission.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/electi...

Byker28i

60,015 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th April
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Jared Moskowitz has indeed submitted an amendment appointing Marge as Putins Special Envoy

@JaredEMoskowitz
Just submitted an amendment to Bill drafting appointing MTG as Putin’s Special Envoy to the United States Congress.
https://twitter.com/JaredEMoskowitz/status/1780766...

eharding

13,733 posts

285 months

Thursday 18th April
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Crafty_ said:
Kimmel threw it right back during his show dubbing trump "Ranta Claus"
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Oh and dear marge bless her has gone back to space lasers
I suppose that makes Marge one of "Ranta's Little Helpers".

The Hypno-Toad

12,284 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th April
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Crafty_ said:
Oh and dear Marge bless her has gone back to space lasers, this time as something the US should fund to protect the border https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-de...

absolute lunatic.
Is she on crack?

RustyMX5

7,061 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th April
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Crafty_ said:
Oh and dear Marge bless her has gone back to space lasers, this time as something the US should fund to protect the border https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-de...

absolute lunatic.
Is she on crack?
Would you rather the alternative that she's not on crack and actually thinks she's sane? biggrin

CraigyMc

16,417 posts

237 months

Thursday 18th April
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Crafty_ said:
Oh and dear Marge bless her has gone back to space lasers, this time as something the US should fund to protect the border https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-de...

absolute lunatic.
Is she on crack?
If you want to expand the envelope of what your mainstream supporters consider reasonable, you can send out a scouting party of lunatics sprinting very visibly to the extreme right. This makes people in the middle of your party who are drifting slowly further right look like they are standing still by comparison.

Dorries did this for the tories. Palin did it for the GOP. Marge isn't the first and won't be the last to do this.

Byker28i

60,015 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th April
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RustyMX5 said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Crafty_ said:
Oh and dear Marge bless her has gone back to space lasers, this time as something the US should fund to protect the border https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-de...

absolute lunatic.
Is she on crack?
Would you rather the alternative that she's not on crack and actually thinks she's sane? biggrin
Marge lost McCarthy's backing when he was sacked and any hope she had for power, so she's resorted to her conspiracy foundations and showboating

Byker28i

60,015 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th April
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Reports now that trump is using his phone in the courtroom, openly flouting the rules of the courtroom.

Hos own lawyer Blanche had to tell him to stop and trump tucked the phone in his pocket while looking annoyed.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/live...

Byker28i

60,015 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th April
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One jurors already pulled out over intimidation worries

She had concerns about her identity becoming public and said that friends and family have already inquired about whether she is a juror. The juror added that given these outside influences, she was concerned about her ability to be fair and impartial, a good way to immediately get off the jusry