45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)
Discussion
DanL said:
Does anyone else have the impression that Trump honestly thought that being President was like being a king or CEO of a country, and as a result he could do absolutely anything he wanted without any comeback, because “he’s the boss”?
I think he might actually be that stupid…
He saw himself like a Godfather, a fatter, dumber version of Tony Soprano. If someone got in his way he could have them metaphorically whacked and he expected total loyalty to him as boss. Once you were out you were out and could expect him to enact retribution on anyone who left the firm.I think he might actually be that stupid…
CivicDuties said:
wong said:
DanL said:
Does anyone else have the impression that Trump honestly thought that being President was like being a king or CEO of a country, and as a result he could do absolutely anything he wanted without any comeback, because “he’s the boss”?
I think he might actually be that stupid…
This is a guy who thought 'stealth' fighters were ACTUALLY invisible.I think he might actually be that stupid…
This is a guy who thought injecting bleach would be a feasible idea.
This is a guy who thought you could fight nature by nuking a hurricane.
etc...
I think he is much, much more stupid than than you previously thought.
He is clearly completely deficient in knowledge, and so self confident that he'll never realise that his pronouncements such as those listed above reflect badly on him.
But it gets worse than that - I am in the cybersecurity industry and what Trump did and didnt do during his 'reign' is shocking and it absolutely shows he's an idiot. From saying that cybersecurity threats arent real, because he doesnt use a computer to dismissing all evidence that Russia attempted to influence the 2016 AND 2020 elections. He put back the USA and its ability to respond and protect national infrastructure a decade. In fact, it got so bad that there were people in the cyber command group that engineered a way to avoid telling him, the commander in chief, about things because it was going to make things worse. Potentially it was illegal acts, but thankfully no one prosecuted them for this. They resigned after he left the WH because they knew that it was going to be fine going forward.
So yeah, he insists that he's surrounded by people who will suck up to his every whim and idea. But he is equally as stupid to insist that he is the smartest person in the room and that he knows everything.
Byker28i said:
One jurors already pulled out over intimidation worries
She had concerns about her identity becoming public and said that friends and family have already inquired about whether she is a juror. The juror added that given these outside influences, she was concerned about her ability to be fair and impartial, a good way to immediately get off the jusry
It looks like it may be much worse than just "intimidation worries".She had concerns about her identity becoming public and said that friends and family have already inquired about whether she is a juror. The juror added that given these outside influences, she was concerned about her ability to be fair and impartial, a good way to immediately get off the jusry
zb said:
Byker28i said:
One jurors already pulled out over intimidation worries
She had concerns about her identity becoming public and said that friends and family have already inquired about whether she is a juror. The juror added that given these outside influences, she was concerned about her ability to be fair and impartial, a good way to immediately get off the jusry
It looks like it may be much worse than just "intimidation worries".She had concerns about her identity becoming public and said that friends and family have already inquired about whether she is a juror. The juror added that given these outside influences, she was concerned about her ability to be fair and impartial, a good way to immediately get off the jusry
zb said:
I never though that I would see a more punchable face than Tucker Carlson, but no, Fox News found him... Jesse Walters. An unabashed liar who I would argue is actually worse than Carlson due to his deliberate false ignorance on some subjects. But hey, I digress..Definition of jury tampering from Law.com:
jury tampering
n. the crime of attempting to influence a jury through any means other than presenting evidence and argument in court, including conversations about the case outside the court, offering bribes, making threats or asking acquaintances to intercede with a juror.
Mmmm, trying to provide information about jurors to allow the MAGA faithful to identify, harass and dox them pretty much falls into that bucket as far as I am concerned. What a bunch of w
kers.And if Trump is so innocent, why are they doing these things? I was thinking about this the other day. If Trump is innocent, why attempt 11 times to appeal the criminal case? Why launch into these personal attacks? Why have a gag order enforced because you just cant help attacking the judge, his daughter, the court officials and anyone else who dares to be involved?
Surely, it would be political dynamite to go through the legal process, be found innocent and then use this as proof of the deep state or something? That is going to be way better and stronger than going through all of these efforts that he's going through at the moment. Unless.....
Crafty_ said:
IMHO given the defendant's previous behavior to and regarding jurors the selection process should have been closed court - one prosecutor, one trump lawyer and the judge. The utter circus that's already developed will now dog this trial until it ends.
That would have played into Trump's "political process" hands.Speed 3 said:
That would have played into Trump's "political process" hands.
Which can easily be ignored has his usual whining as quite easily justified.Whereas we now have jurors and details about them divulged to the prosecution team and trump personally, worse still every media outlet also knows who they are and will no doubt persue them relentlessly in the hope of some nice clickbaity stories. They've already caused distrubance to the trial by scaring one juror off.
Pincher said:
Another 2 jurors excused.
One dismissed juror spoke to reporter outside the courthouse:Edited by Pincher on Thursday 18th April 17:36
"Everyone was shocked, everyone was frozen," said the woman, identified only by her first name, Kat. She recounted the moment she and fellow prospective jurors walked into the room and realized they'd been called for the trump trial.
“We went into the courtroom and we saw trump ... I was shocked, I was sitting in the second row, like 6 feet away."
Looks like the intimidation is working
Only usually seen in violent crime/mob cases
Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 18th April 18:50
Starfighter said:
Why should the names of the jurors be made public?
I can understand that within the court and for the prosecution and defense teams their names need to be know but surely that is as far as it goes.
I mean they're not naming them per se. They are saying things like woman that's an oncologist at st bart's, aged 40-45, 4'11''. An naturalised irishman that works as a janitors at st kentigerns high school...I can understand that within the court and for the prosecution and defense teams their names need to be know but surely that is as far as it goes.
It's not hard to join the dots.
This should have been treated as a mob trial from the off, as that is what it is.
They've been asked not only where they live, but they've been asked who is your current employer and who was your previous employer?
"You've had juror consultants fan out to the neighborhoods and find out about them, we're 24 hours or 48 hours since, and one or two identities maybe are already known."
"You've had juror consultants fan out to the neighborhoods and find out about them, we're 24 hours or 48 hours since, and one or two identities maybe are already known."
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