Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

[bitchstewie]

Not true some of them vote Labour and Conservative too.

Said it before but I expect Reform will have some perfectly sensible policies come the election.

The issue is the fish rots from the head and when you have people like Farage at the top of the party is it really any wonder that some of their candidates are the low grade deplorables that we've seen highlighted on this thread?

[chrispmartha]

crankedup5 said:

Timothy Bucktu said:

Killboy said:

I believe all Reform voters are racists.

Great...nobody cares. Lefties have overused and abused the term and its totally lost it's meaning in 2024.

Indeed this is the case, it’s long been known that overuse of hyperbole language results in the terms used being impotent and almost meaningless.

Like ‘woke’?

[Killboy]

crankedup5 said:

Indeed this is the case, it’s long been known that overuse of hyperbole language results in the terms used being impotent and almost meaningless.

Like most of the right's culture war nonsense then?

[bitchstewie]

No no no filth like "foreign invaders" is absolutely fine.

[Killboy]

S600BSB said:

Sure they are not all racists, but you certainly have to hold your nose with a lot of them.

Racism doesn't seem to be a deal-breaker to the rest of them.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Killboy said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

I agree the term f*ckwit was a bit strong. but how would you describe someone who does what you believe is pointless?
Labour supporters seem to have no difficulty describing the tories as scum, and other derogatory terms, or perhaps you believe it is OK to use derogatory terms to describe tories and their supporters, but it is somehow not OK to apply derogatory terms to labour the other parties?

That's understandable, and one is entitled to believe whatever they want. I believe all Reform voters are racists.

A person can believe what they like. I believe that all labour voters are close to being terminally stupid, but that does not make what I believe, or what you believe a fact.

[Blue62]

Pan Pan Pan said:

A person can believe what they like. I believe that all labour voters are close to being terminally stupid, but that does not make what I believe, or what you believe a fact.

No, it doesn’t make it true. That you believe all Labour voters are terminally stupid is a fact, but it’s not a truism. I’m always surprised at how uneducated so many Reform voters are, fact.

[crankedup5]

See the usual excitable’s are exercising themselves again with bile and nonsense, it’s like a comic book in here at times

[AW111]

crankedup5 said:

See the usual excitable’s are exercising themselves again with bile and nonsense, it’s like a comic book in here at times

Too right. I assume you are referring to those who have recently called others "prick" and "fkwit"?

[S600BSB]

Chaps - calm down. It’s Sunday.

[Killboy]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Killboy said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

I agree the term f*ckwit was a bit strong. but how would you describe someone who does what you believe is pointless?
Labour supporters seem to have no difficulty describing the tories as scum, and other derogatory terms, or perhaps you believe it is OK to use derogatory terms to describe tories and their supporters, but it is somehow not OK to apply derogatory terms to labour the other parties?

That's understandable, and one is entitled to believe whatever they want. I believe all Reform voters are racists.

A person can believe what they like. I believe that all labour voters are close to being terminally stupid, but that does not make what I believe, or what you believe a fact.

So you agree with me then? Good.

[heebeegeetee]

Pan Pan Pan said:

A person can believe what they like. I believe that all labour voters are close to being terminally stupid, but that does not make what I believe, or what you believe a fact.

Blimey.

Irrespective of what anyone might want to think, we have a two party political system.

It would be an act of great stupidity to vote for more st of the like of the past 14 years.

[smn159]

heebeegeetee said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

A person can believe what they like. I believe that all labour voters are close to being terminally stupid, but that does not make what I believe, or what you believe a fact.

Blimey.

Irrespective of what anyone might want to think, we have a two party political system.

It would be an act of great stupidity to vote for more st of the like of the past 14 years.

Some people clearly like the approach of the current government and just want a more racist version of it.

[Crippo]

Anyone who uses the word “racism” in their argument gets ignored.

[captain_cynic]

Crippo said:

Anyone who uses the word “racism” in their argument gets ignored.

Consider yourself ignored then.

[Vanden Saab]

Mrr T said:

Gecko1978 said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

President Merkin said:

Rufus Stone said:

What is Reform's plan to stop the boats?

Ooh, I know the answer to this.

1) Do a pointless thing
2) Remove your human rights, joining Belarus & Russia in the process.
3) Deny reality
4) Duplicate a civil service function at the taxpayer's expense
5) Get laughed at, then shot at by the French navy
6) Do a thing that would obviate the previous five things that should have been done in the first place.

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

Just a out loud thought but 5 is I believe illegal but lets say we did drop people back off in france what would happen

Forcing people who have no right to be in France to return to France would be contrary to a number of French laws from people trafficking to assault. If a boat sinks even more serious charges. For this reason the Navy and Coast Guard would refuse such orders. Tickle could get some mates to use there private boats for the task. In which case the French authorities would arrest and imprison them. I would pay to see that.

Really?

link said:

Albanian migrants returned to France after trying to enter Guernsey by boat

https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2023-08-17/albanian-migrants-returned-to-france-after-trying-to-enter-guernsey

[Killboy]

Crippo said:

Anyone who uses the word “racism” in their argument gets ignored.

But fkwit is acceptable? Lol

[President Merkin]

Vanden Saab said:

https://www.itv.com/news/channel/2023-08-17/albani...

Congratulations on identifying a crown dependency, governed independently, in Guernsey's case, since the 1259.treaty of Paris. Of course, were you inclined, you could have asked the question why Guernsey can do that & the mainland can't.

But you didn't.

[Dagnir]

Killboy said:

But fkwit is acceptable? Lol

Being insulting is different to being ignorant and parroting words out of context, no?

[Killboy]

Dagnir said:

Being insulting is different to being ignorant and parroting words out of context, no?

What words out of context?