Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

[Pan Pan Pan]

Killboy said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

Neither was I, so what was your point?

No, just the anti-labour whine as usual.

So in your biased view, it is OK to have an anti-tory whine, but not OK have an anti-labour whine. Please try to explain how that makes any sense at all.
I have already stated that the tories do not deserve to get into No 10 at the next election, but are you one of those fools grasping at straws who believe that labour should?

[Pan Pan Pan]

President Merkin said:

Rufus Stone said:

What is Reform's plan to stop the boats?

Ooh, I know the answer to this.

1) Do a pointless thing
2) Remove your human rights, joining Belarus & Russia in the process.
3) Deny reality
4) Duplicate a civil service function at the taxpayer's expense
5) Get laughed at, then shot at by the French navy
6) Do a thing that would obviate the previous five things that should have been done in the first place.

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

[tangerine_sedge]

AW111 said:

Gecko1978 said:

GB News reported upnto 10 tory MPs might defect to reform. I doubt it but would be good to see before the GE

Live or dead MPs?

How many MP phone numbers did William Wragg pass on?

[President Merkin]

Pan Pan Pan said:

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

Is there any particular reason why you refer to people with whom you disagree as fkwits? It just comes across as pure aggression, undermining the point you like to make day in, day out.

[Gecko1978]

Pan Pan Pan said:

President Merkin said:

Rufus Stone said:

What is Reform's plan to stop the boats?

Ooh, I know the answer to this.

1) Do a pointless thing
2) Remove your human rights, joining Belarus & Russia in the process.
3) Deny reality
4) Duplicate a civil service function at the taxpayer's expense
5) Get laughed at, then shot at by the French navy
6) Do a thing that would obviate the previous five things that should have been done in the first place.

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

Just a out loud thought but 5 is I believe illegal but lets say we did drop people back off in france what would happen

[Mrr T]

Gecko1978 said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

President Merkin said:

Rufus Stone said:

What is Reform's plan to stop the boats?

Ooh, I know the answer to this.

1) Do a pointless thing
2) Remove your human rights, joining Belarus & Russia in the process.
3) Deny reality
4) Duplicate a civil service function at the taxpayer's expense
5) Get laughed at, then shot at by the French navy
6) Do a thing that would obviate the previous five things that should have been done in the first place.

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

Just a out loud thought but 5 is I believe illegal but lets say we did drop people back off in france what would happen

Forcing people who have no right to be in France to return to France would be contrary to a number of French laws from people trafficking to assault. If a boat sinks even more serious charges. For this reason the Navy and Coast Guard would refuse such orders. Tickle could get some mates to use there private boats for the task. In which case the French authorities would arrest and imprison them. I would pay to see that.

[tangerine_sedge]

President Merkin said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

Is there any particular reason why you refer to people with whom you disagree as fkwits? It just comes across as pure aggression, undermining the point you like to make day in, day out.

Like a toddler thrashing around on a supermarket floor because they can't have chocolate, I think PPP is angry that a bunch of promises made by proven liars turned out to be lies. He now pushes the viewpoint that all politicians are the same, even though they demonstrably are not.

I think it's a coping strategy for the dawning realisation that they were taken in by such lousy politicians in the first place.

[Killboy]

Pan Pan Pan said:

So in your biased view, it is OK to have an anti-tory whine, but not OK have an anti-labour whine. Please try to explain how that makes any sense at all.
I have already stated that the tories do not deserve to get into No 10 at the next election, but are you one of those fools grasping at straws who believe that labour should?

You can whine about whatever you want. The issue is the party you're whining about hasn't been on power for 14 years. It's also a Reform thread.

But do carry on. Make sure everyone knows it can be anyone but labour.

[bad company]

Pan Pan Pan said:

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

Clearly the rest of the electorate can only dream of achieving your level of intelligence.

[Baroque attacks]

smn159 said:

Surely it's all about the well thought out policies though and nothing to do with the overt racism?

It seems some do seem to have missed that bit


Deliberate or not I don’t know…

[S600BSB]

President Merkin said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

Is there any particular reason why you refer to people with whom you disagree as fkwits? It just comes across as pure aggression, undermining the point you like to make day in, day out.

I thought that too. Bit cheap.

[wc98]

President Merkin said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

Is there any particular reason why you refer to people with whom you disagree as fkwits? It just comes across as pure aggression, undermining the point you like to make day in, day out.

To be fair to PPP i think he is also referring to himself with that phrase as i imagine like me and many others he has indeed voted for one or more of the main parties in the past before finally coming to the conclusion that doing the same thing over and over again (while expecting a different/better result) is indeed the definition of insanity I don't think anyone still voting is a fxckwit or anything else derogatory, just not as far along the path of enlightenment as some. Give it time and they will get there, well most of them. Those that are actually party members are a lost cause.

[Pan Pan Pan]

President Merkin said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

This is only another example, of the hard of thinking being offered the moon on a stick. Which is `exactly' the same as the labour, and tory parties are doing now.
The problem is that there are still some f*ckwits out there, who actually `believe' the garbage they are being fed by the main parties.

Is there any particular reason why you refer to people with whom you disagree as fkwits? It just comes across as pure aggression, undermining the point you like to make day in, day out.

I agree the term f*ckwit was a bit strong. but how would you describe someone who does what you believe is pointless?
Labour supporters seem to have no difficulty describing the tories as scum, and other derogatory terms, or perhaps you believe it is OK to use derogatory terms to describe tories and their supporters, but it is somehow not OK to apply derogatory terms to labour the other parties?

[President Merkin]

What I would expect is someone who just loves to look down on other people while haunting these pages to make the same point ad nauseum to raise themselves above playground insults on the basis that they started it, which in itself manages to be both childish and a sweeping generalisation.

In short, if you want to make the point that others aren't as clever as you, you are going to have to avoid saying stupid things because you know, the whole undermining your own credibility thing.

[crankedup5]

President Merkin said:

What I would expect is someone who just loves to look down on other people while haunting these pages to make the same point ad nauseum to raise themselves above playground insults on the basis that they started it, which in itself manages to be both childish and a sweeping generalisation.

In short, if you want to make the point that others aren't as clever as you, you are going to have to avoid saying stupid things because you know, the whole undermining your own credibility thing.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Another glance into the mirror then.

[Killboy]

Pan Pan Pan said:

I agree the term f*ckwit was a bit strong. but how would you describe someone who does what you believe is pointless?
Labour supporters seem to have no difficulty describing the tories as scum, and other derogatory terms, or perhaps you believe it is OK to use derogatory terms to describe tories and their supporters, but it is somehow not OK to apply derogatory terms to labour the other parties?

That's understandable, and one is entitled to believe whatever they want. I believe all Reform voters are racists.

[Timothy Bucktu]

Killboy said:

I believe all Reform voters are racists.

Great...nobody cares. Lefties have overused and abused the term and its totally lost it's meaning in 2024.

[S600BSB]

Killboy said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

I agree the term f*ckwit was a bit strong. but how would you describe someone who does what you believe is pointless?
Labour supporters seem to have no difficulty describing the tories as scum, and other derogatory terms, or perhaps you believe it is OK to use derogatory terms to describe tories and their supporters, but it is somehow not OK to apply derogatory terms to labour the other parties?

That's understandable, and one is entitled to believe whatever they want. I believe all Reform voters are racists.

Sure they are not all racists, but you certainly have to hold your nose with a lot of them.

[crankedup5]

Timothy Bucktu said:

Killboy said:

I believe all Reform voters are racists.

Great...nobody cares. Lefties have overused and abused the term and its totally lost it's meaning in 2024.

Indeed this is the case, it’s long been known that overuse of hyperbole language results in the terms used being impotent and almost meaningless.

[President Merkin]

Hperbolic, not hyperbole Boozy Dent.


Anyway, nah I don't think all Reform voters are racists but I'd have money that all racists are Reform voters. Lie down with dogs get fleas, eh lads.