Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

[Carl_VivaEspana]

bhstewie said:

In terms of outcomes is there any possible downside?

One outcome is that the price of something rises, council tax, debt and something else gets cut.

See also in a years time : Why is my council tax £300pm? I can’t afford to pay this, heat my home, travel to work and feed my kids, Why is my train ticket into London £300? Why is the government borrowing £120bn a year? Why is my council bankrupt?

[crankedup5]

bad company said:

crankedup5 said:

One of the most attractive Counties of England, but I would say that wouldn’t I, with good reason. Beautiful countryside dotted with stunning towns and villages. Nothing not to love.

Edited by crankedup5 on Tuesday 30th April 22:25

Not to mention Adnams beer!!

Indeed, impeccable taste Sir! nestled into Southwold,not to overlook Greene King of course brewing in Bury St Edmunds ‘The jewel in the suffolk crown’.

[bitchstewie]

Carl_VivaEspana said:

One outcome is that the price of something rises, council tax, debt and something else gets cut.

See also in a years time : Why is my council tax £300pm? I can’t afford to pay this, heat my home, travel to work and feed my kids, Why is my train ticket into London £300? Why is the government borrowing £120bn a year? Why is my council bankrupt?

Yeah afraid I'm still struggling with why ensuring kids are fed whilst at school learning is seen as a bad thing.

Seems to be a lot of me me me my my my going on here.

But hey the Reform mayoral candidate says he'll "protect our heritage" which is definitely totally free.

[heebeegeetee]

bhstewie said:

Yeah afraid I'm still struggling with why ensuring kids are fed whilst at school learning is seen as a bad thing.

Seems to be a lot of me me me my my my going on here.

But hey the Reform mayoral candidate says he'll "protect our heritage" which is definitely totally free.

I'm sure we all had free school meals at junior school in the 60s, and free milk of course.

And any child who didn't fit in due to undiagnosed autism or dyslexia or any of the myriad conditions discovered since simply got a wallop.

All I want is my country back.

[S600BSB]

crankedup5 said:

S600BSB said:

crankedup5 said:

I live in Suffolk.

Guessed as much.

One of the most attractive Counties of England, but I would say that wouldn’t I, with good reason. Beautiful countryside dotted with stunning towns and villages. Nothing not to love.

Edited by crankedup5 on Tuesday 30th April 22:25

Indeed - my parents live there. Better than Norfolk.

[crankedup5]

heebeegeetee said:

bhstewie said:

Yeah afraid I'm still struggling with why ensuring kids are fed whilst at school learning is seen as a bad thing.

Seems to be a lot of me me me my my my going on here.

But hey the Reform mayoral candidate says he'll "protect our heritage" which is definitely totally free.

I'm sure we all had free school meals at junior school in the 60s, and free milk of course.

And any child who didn't fit in due to undiagnosed autism or dyslexia or any of the myriad conditions discovered since simply got a wallop.

All I want is my country back.

I feel you have raised a good point, with so many allergies that seem prevalent in kids, it must be a challenge serving up those ‘dinners’ ensuring compliance is met.

[heebeegeetee]

crankedup5 said:

I feel you have raised a good point, with so many allergies that seem prevalent in kids, it must be a challenge serving up those ‘dinners’ ensuring compliance is met.

I was thinking about that in relation to us all having a bottle of milk a day.

Removing that milk definitely fits into Conservative values as I understand them. Must have saved the country a fortune.

[S600BSB]

crankedup5 said:

heebeegeetee said:

bhstewie said:

Yeah afraid I'm still struggling with why ensuring kids are fed whilst at school learning is seen as a bad thing.

Seems to be a lot of me me me my my my going on here.

But hey the Reform mayoral candidate says he'll "protect our heritage" which is definitely totally free.

I'm sure we all had free school meals at junior school in the 60s, and free milk of course.

And any child who didn't fit in due to undiagnosed autism or dyslexia or any of the myriad conditions discovered since simply got a wallop.

All I want is my country back.

I feel you have raised a good point, with so many allergies that seem prevalent in kids, it must be a challenge serving up those ‘dinners’ ensuring compliance is met.

It’s no challenge at all. Poor.

[President Merkin]

It all boils down to the age old right wing mantra that if you can't help yourself, it's all your own fault & society owes you nothing.

[Mr Penguin]

heebeegeetee said:

I was thinking about that in relation to us all having a bottle of milk a day.

Removing that milk definitely fits into Conservative values as I understand them. Must have saved the country a fortune.

Not just Conservative values - Labour values.

In 1968 Edward Short, the Labour Secretary of State for Education and Science, withdrew free milk from secondary schools for children over eleven.
His successor, Conservative Margaret Thatcher withdrew free school milk from children over seven in 1971, earning her the nickname "Thatcher, the Milk Snatcher".
Shirley Williams withdrew free milk for children between seven and five in 1977.

[Carl_VivaEspana]

President Merkin said:

It all boils down to the age old right wing mantra that if you can't help yourself, it's all your own fault & society owes you nothing.

In a nutshell.

[andymadmak]

Mr Penguin said:

heebeegeetee said:

I was thinking about that in relation to us all having a bottle of milk a day.

Removing that milk definitely fits into Conservative values as I understand them. Must have saved the country a fortune.

Not just Conservative values - Labour values.

In 1968 Edward Short, the Labour Secretary of State for Education and Science, withdrew free milk from secondary schools for children over eleven.
His successor, Conservative Margaret Thatcher withdrew free school milk from children over seven in 1971, earning her the nickname "Thatcher, the Milk Snatcher".
Shirley Williams withdrew free milk for children between seven and five in 1977.

Sssshhhhhh! Facts like that aren't welcome around here. And FFS don't EVER mention that Blair closed more coal mines than Thatcher!!!

[bad company]

President Merkin said:

It all boils down to the age old right wing mantra that if you can't help yourself, it's all your own fault & society owes you nothing.

Or left wing policies of spending other people’s money. Politics of envy.

[2xChevrons]

andymadmak said:

Sssshhhhhh! Facts like that aren't welcome around here. And FFS don't EVER mention that Blair closed more coal mines than Thatcher!!!

Hmmmm....how many coal mines were there in the UK between 1997 and 2010?

I think your fact may be several decades out of true.

bad company said:

Or left wing policies of spending other people’s money. Politics of envy.

Yeah, I'm really envious of children getting provided one decent meal a day.

It's a policy that literally saves money by causing less of it to be spent on policing, correction, social services and welfare.

It's like saying "How dare you take £10 off me and give me £17 back!".

Of course you get happier, healthier, smarter and higher-earning kids as well, but it seems that that's not good enough reason for some people. It's envy or communism or woke or something.

[bitchstewie]

bad company said:

Or left wing policies of spending other people’s money. Politics of envy.

I'm surprised you think feeding kids at school is a matter of left or right.

Feels a no-brainer to me.

Voted Conservative all my life except the last General Election but it's funny that you assume I'm a leftie because I think that.

Said this before but rather than considering that perhaps you're a little further to the right than you might care to admit you seem to have persuaded yourself that everyone else is on the left.

[bad company]

bhstewie said:

I'm surprised you think feeding kids at school is a matter of left or right.

Feels a no-brainer to me.

Voted Conservative all my life except the last General Election but it's funny that you assume I'm a leftie because I think that.

Said this before but rather than considering that perhaps you're a little further to the right than you might care to admit you seem to have persuaded yourself that everyone else is on the left.

I don’t see why school meals shouldn’t be paid for with some exceptions.

Further right than I admit? I liked the conservates under Thatcher, they were golden years until she lost it towards the end of her time.

[valiant]

bhstewie said:

bad company said:

Or left wing policies of spending other people’s money. Politics of envy.

I'm surprised you think feeding kids at school is a matter of left or right.

Feels a no-brainer to me.

Voted Conservative all my life except the last General Election but it's funny that you assume I'm a leftie because I think that.

Said this before but rather than considering that perhaps you're a little further to the right than you might care to admit you seem to have persuaded yourself that everyone else is on the left.

I think it’s really as simple as “I’m alright so fk everyone else”.

They simply can’t comprehend that some people may need a little help even if it’s just a hot meal every day. All they care about is taxes and how much they pay and would gladly see a complete decimation of public services and all the social catastrophes that would follow if it meant paying a penny less in tax.

[TTwiggy]

bad company said:

Or left wing policies of spending other people’s money. Politics of envy.

Whose money do the Conservatives spend then? I'm pretty sure I still pay tax and the government spends that tax.

[bad company]

TTwiggy said:

bad company said:

Or left wing policies of spending other people’s money. Politics of envy.

Whose money do the Conservatives spend then? I'm pretty sure I still pay tax and the government spends that tax.

Seriously fella we can all disagree on politics but I don’t think you’re really that stupid. Yes of course whoever’s in power has to spend the tax income.

[TTwiggy]

bad company said:

TTwiggy said:

bad company said:

Or left wing policies of spending other people’s money. Politics of envy.

Whose money do the Conservatives spend then? I'm pretty sure I still pay tax and the government spends that tax.

Seriously fella we can all disagree on politics but I don’t think you’re really that stupid. Yes of course whoever’s in power has to spend the tax income.

So they all spend other people's money. Glad we agree on that then.