Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

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irc

7,328 posts

137 months

Thursday 18th April
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Who knew? Higher taxes compared to rUK makes jobs in Scotland less attractive.

NHS consultant shortage blamed partly on tax.

"I've also had a couple of emails over the past few months from consultants in England who were thinking of moving to Scotland who are not anymore.

"The increase in tax, for some people it was the final straw. "

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24259114.nhs-s...

Only going to get worse as the tax gap increases this financial year. It is great being governed by financial wizards.

wc98

10,406 posts

141 months

Thursday 18th April
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Klippie said:
I see quite a few giving Perth a hard time, Dunfermline by comparison has nothing, nor does Kircaldy the centre and high street is like a ghost town, Glenrothes centre is good it always seems to be busy and has a good mix of shops.

Perth has free parking for 3hrs, its a piece of pish to get to and out off, the shops are way better than anywhere in Fife...I like going there its got everything I need...plus you get a good blast through Glenfarg on the way home (this is Pistonheads after all)

Edinburgh is horrific...I cannot remember the last time I stood on Princess Street, its a nightmare if you want to drive.
Glenfarg and the stretch from Glenrothes up to it is a great warm up to get your eye in for a day run to the west coast/north west. Glenrothes town centre is a shadow of its former self and it former self wasn't great, probably peaked over twenty years ago. The town itself is ideal for driving/riding enthusiasts due to it's location and there are areas of Fife with some great roads.

Perth is a nice place and i disagree with the other posters assertions regarding Scottish villages vs English. Most of the old pit towns/villages might fit that description but you don't have to go far to find the exact opposite whether it be on the coast, Elie ,Earlsferry, Kingsbarns and North Queensferry or inland Auchterarder ,Kinneswood and Dollar would be good examples that spring to mind and there are thousands more.

Mercdriver

2,016 posts

34 months

Thursday 18th April
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A really bad tempered first minister questions time today, Ross on hate crime bill and Sarawak on climate change targets being reduced.

Sarawak also very critical of alliance between SNP and Greens making life worse for Scotland.

No chance of that alliance being binned though, they all want to keep their snouts in the trough for another two years.

Roderick Spode

3,113 posts

50 months

Thursday 18th April
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wc98 said:
Glenfarg and the stretch from Glenrothes up to it is a great warm up to get your eye in for a day run to the west coast/north west. Glenrothes town centre is a shadow of its former self and it former self wasn't great, probably peaked over twenty years ago. The town itself is ideal for driving/riding enthusiasts due to it's location and there are areas of Fife with some great roads.
The road from Leslie across to Milanthort used to be a great driving road - but the council have decided that endless speed limit changes and massive plastic speed humps & 'traffic calming' were necessary. From Leslie it's now a range of speed limits right through to beyond Wester Balgedie - 40/30/40/20/40/20/40/30/40/30/40/NSL over a six mile stretch. Of course most drivers don't bother obeying any of this nonsense so it ends up being like the wacky races. The A912 through Falkland & over Gateside is going the same way - there's new extended 40mph sections approaching Falkland, plastic suspension breakers through Gateside, and idiotic 'traffic calming' through Strathmiglo. Only a matter of time before the whole road from New Inn to Miglo is made a blanket 40mph.

As a central Fife inmate, you're right about Glenrothes - it was definitely better years ago! The town centre is a hollowed out husk, plenty of empty units, and shops selling crap like vapes or whatever. Kirkcaldy is even worse.

Olivera

7,154 posts

240 months

Thursday 18th April
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wc98 said:
...i disagree with the other posters assertions regarding Scottish villages vs English. Most of the old pit towns/villages might fit that description but you don't have to go far to find the exact opposite whether it be on the coast, Elie ,Earlsferry, Kingsbarns and North Queensferry or inland Auchterarder ,Kinneswood and Dollar would be good examples that spring to mind and there are thousands more.
Perhaps I could be accused of splitting hairs, but I specifically referenced villages, not towns. The quintessential affluent English village with a nice pub is in my experience far more common than it's Scottish counterpart.

wc98

10,406 posts

141 months

Thursday 18th April
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Roderick Spode said:
The road from Leslie across to Milanthort used to be a great driving road - but the council have decided that endless speed limit changes and massive plastic speed humps & 'traffic calming' were necessary. From Leslie it's now a range of speed limits right through to beyond Wester Balgedie - 40/30/40/20/40/20/40/30/40/30/40/NSL over a six mile stretch. Of course most drivers don't bother obeying any of this nonsense so it ends up being like the wacky races. The A912 through Falkland & over Gateside is going the same way - there's new extended 40mph sections approaching Falkland, plastic suspension breakers through Gateside, and idiotic 'traffic calming' through Strathmiglo. Only a matter of time before the whole road from New Inn to Miglo is made a blanket 40mph.

As a central Fife inmate, you're right about Glenrothes - it was definitely better years ago! The town centre is a hollowed out husk, plenty of empty units, and shops selling crap like vapes or whatever. Kirkcaldy is even worse.
Ah, you know it well, the Milnathort road was good but i love crossing Auchmuir bridge and going up the hill. That left hand kink on the crest that only opens out just as you hit it prior to the bumpy uphill right approach to the blind crest is a great test of a bike or cars handling. 145 on the bike and 145 in a Mk2 Focus RS driven by a competent mate. All leptons of course and more exciting on the bike due to more air while leaned over. Always amazed me how stable the bike was up there as long as hard on the throttle. The airport road is great as well, just too short, although it was part of our Knockhill TT run back from track days and evenings.

The A912 was as much fun as you could have on the bike, nearly died at the Pillars of Hercules corner when an old VW bus was trundling along at 30mph one day when i anticipated it going a bit quicker and i ended up passing it on the grass verge on the left due to an HGV coming the other way, never knew a GSXR would handle so well off road until then. On a thou the whole road just shrank and that downhill bit into the fast chicane was a huge buzz, chuck it down two gears into fourth for the left, right, left, eyeballs on stalks in case the farmer was out and about in a tractor and on a warm summers day the black lines would still be there on the way home several hours later. Good times and glad we had them looking at how things are going now.

rider73

3,051 posts

78 months

Thursday 18th April
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Mercdriver said:
A really bad tempered first minister questions time today, Ross on hate crime bill and Sarawak on climate change targets being reduced.

Sarawak also very critical of alliance between SNP and Greens making life worse for Scotland.

No chance of that alliance being binned though, they all want to keep their snouts in the trough for another two years.
i feel the Greens now they have had a taste of the gravy train will do anything to keep it up, expect they will align with anyone on the next election to keep in power, i hope they are not needed and labour grab power alone, but you never know..... i also suspect an implosion of that SNP green alliance the closer we get to the election as each tries to blame the other for failures in order to curry favour with the voters.

Leithen

10,914 posts

268 months

Thursday 18th April
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Olivera said:
wc98 said:
...i disagree with the other posters assertions regarding Scottish villages vs English. Most of the old pit towns/villages might fit that description but you don't have to go far to find the exact opposite whether it be on the coast, Elie ,Earlsferry, Kingsbarns and North Queensferry or inland Auchterarder ,Kinneswood and Dollar would be good examples that spring to mind and there are thousands more.
Perhaps I could be accused of splitting hairs, but I specifically referenced villages, not towns. The quintessential affluent English village with a nice pub is in my experience far more common than it's Scottish counterpart.
The problem with so many Scottish towns and villages are that they are ribbon developments with architecture that is, shall we say, functional at best.

Dunkeld is an exception, and no doubt there are others, but for whatever reason generally speaking smaller towns and villages are not particularly pretty or beautiful up here.

wc98

10,406 posts

141 months

Thursday 18th April
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Olivera said:
Perhaps I could be accused of splitting hairs, but I specifically referenced villages, not towns. The quintessential affluent English village with a nice pub is in my experience far more common than it's Scottish counterpart.
That's fair enough, and even in the nice pubs in the nicest areas up here there is quite often at least one local maniac that can easily upset the ambience for no apparent reason biggrin

wc98

10,406 posts

141 months

Thursday 18th April
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Leithen said:
The problem with so many Scottish towns and villages are that they are ribbon developments with architecture that is, shall we say, functional at best.

Dunkeld is an exception, and no doubt there are others, but for whatever reason generally speaking smaller towns and villages are not particularly pretty or beautiful up here.
Again that is a fair point, but given the history behind most older rural developments, whether they be coastal or inland, it's not surprising. The folk that built most of them kept the majority of money, that the people that lived in them made, for the big hoose on the estate.

ScotHill

3,172 posts

110 months

Thursday 18th April
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wc98 said:
Again that is a fair point, but given the history behind most older rural developments, whether they be coastal or inland, it's not surprising. The folk that built most of them kept the majority of money, that the people that lived in them made, for the big hoose on the estate.
I don't know enough history but that could well be true - the parts of England I was thinking of were near the Welsh border, Cheshire, Shropshire, Worcestershire, Herefordshire, and then pretty much most of the south and south east, places where agriculture has gone back centuries and supported market towns and numerous satellite villages. One of the reasons tourists come to Scotland is its ruggedness and sparseness, but that doesn't necessarily translate into economic activity outside of tourism.

Skyedriver

17,880 posts

283 months

Thursday 18th April
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Scottish Schools and LBGT - from the Telegraph today:
Schools in Scotland are appointing children as “LGBT champions” and are being urged to ask pupils as young as four if they are gay, lesbian or trans, the Telegraph can reveal. A charity that received nearly £1 million in taxpayer's money last year has encouraged schools to take the measures, documents show.

ScotHill

3,172 posts

110 months

Thursday 18th April
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Our school isn’t doing it - recently got sent their whole PSGE curriculum and that doesn’t appear.

It did appear in the Telegraph.

I would suggest it is bks.

Evercross

6,006 posts

65 months

Thursday 18th April
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ScotHill said:
Our school isn’t doing it - recently got sent their whole PSGE curriculum and that doesn’t appear.

It did appear in the Telegraph.

I would suggest it is bks.
It isn't. It is called the LGBT Youth Scotland Gold Charter and I posted about it in detail here a couple of weeks back.

Glasgow schools alone gave a 6 figure total to LGBT YS in the last financial year (I know this because I saw it in the accounts).

Edited by Evercross on Thursday 18th April 15:07

AstonZagato

12,712 posts

211 months

Thursday 18th April
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I went to Leith last year to look around the Royal Yacht. The shopping centre where one enters could be used for a post apocalyptic drama. Three quarters of the units were empty. The bits of town we drove through to get there weren't much better - tattoo parlours and betting shops seemed to be the main occupants.

ScotHill

3,172 posts

110 months

Thursday 18th April
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Forty primary schools in the whole of Scotland are part of the charter. How many of them have LGBT champions, and how many of those are asking four year olds whether they are gay? That’s the bit I’m calling bks on.

https://freespeechunion.org/scottish-primary-schoo...

Local school addresses sexuality and trans stuff in the last couple of years, four year olds are taught names of body parts and that some of them are private. Have no problem with any of that.

cuprabob

14,657 posts

215 months

Thursday 18th April
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AstonZagato said:
The bits of town we drove through to get there weren't much better - tattoo parlours and betting shops seemed to be the main occupants.
Sounds as if there is some opportunity to open a few Turkish barbers and phone repair shops.

Roderick Spode

3,113 posts

50 months

Thursday 18th April
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Turns out the Scottish Parliament Record did indeed amend the official transcript of what Dumza Yousless said during his infamous HUWHITE speech...

The adding of the word 'is' to every line of the speech prior to the word WHITE, diminishes the verbal staccato and ferociousness of the original delivery when rendered to a text format. It almost makes Yousless sound calm and controlled, as opposed to the video recording showing a bile-filled, hate-driven racist bigot.

https://wingsoverscotland.com/in-the-name-of-clari...

Janluke

2,587 posts

159 months

Thursday 18th April
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Oh



hidetheelephants

24,438 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th April
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This is clearly defamatory toward 59yr old men in the SNP, it's practically a hate crime. wobble