Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

[Rick_1138]

StescoG66 said:

I do note that often The Express and Daily Mail are often quoted but they are not exactly bastions of truth and accuracy either are they.

That said, hope the report is correct but would rather see SNP go bankrupt first then watch Dumza go flying out on his sorry, useless, lying, incompetent arse.

I do wonder if Kate wasn't promoted back to the front bench in place of marhuesin as him and humza are thick as thieves and if Kate comes in the greens may get pissy.

[hidetheelephants]

StescoG66 said:

Mercdriver said:

Rick_1138 said:

Any links?

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/kate-forbes-launches-devastating-attack-32415660

I do note that often The Express and Daily Mail are often quoted but they are not exactly bastions of truth and accuracy either are they.

That said, hope the report is correct but would rather see SNP go bankrupt first then watch Dumza go flying out on his sorry, useless, lying, incompetent arse.

There's an article about it in the Herald yesterday; you'll need to look yourself as their website makes me want to throw my computer out of the window.

[Evercross]

StescoG66 said:

but would rather see SNP go bankrupt first then watch Dumza go flying out on his sorry, useless, lying, incompetent arse.

That is a distinct possibility if the SNP were to lose their status as the third biggest party in Westminster at the next General Election.

Unfortunately it is something I am seeing as increasingly unlikely as it would rely on their being a consistent third option for rUK constituency voters to choose. In the past that would have been the LibDems but they are still struggling to rise from their low water mark of recent years. Also not helped by the Conservative protest votes going to The Reform Party.

[cuprabob]

Rick_1138 said:

I do wonder if Kate wasn't promoted back to the front bench in place of marhuesin as him and humza are thick as thieves and if Kate comes in the greens may get pissy.

I think it's more to do with Kate not wanting to be associated with Useless and being ready to step up after the election.

Edited by cuprabob on Sunday 24th March 10:45

[Klippie]

Kate can be the party leader after the general election, Dumza has to stay till then to continue making a balls-up of everything, the spectacular fall of the Sturgeon/Dumza regime must come first to wipe the slate clean of their sleazy lying hate filled politics.

If Kate is put in place before then there's a chance the brain deads will start supporting the SNP again and we'll get another round of their independence pish.

They say a picture paints a thousand words, this one of Kate looking at Dumza say's it all...lets have a guess what she is clearly thinking.

Mine - I've been stitched up for this useless tt, your nothing but a Sturgeon stooge.

[dxg]

She's wondering how that particular slack-jawed yokel made into that role.

Either that or she's wondering how he managed to avoid the Dilbert Principle when he made it out the call centre.

[irc]

Why accept a position on the bridge of a sinking ship? Far better to take over after it hits the bottom. That way you don't share any of the blame for the crash. Useless had his chance to keep her in govt after he became leader. Offering her a demotion blew it.

[Klippie]

Mercurius uploads another gem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HDmaBKcXGU&ab...

[Se7enheaven]

Klippie said:

Kate can be the party leader after the general election, Dumza has to stay till then to continue making a balls-up of everything, the spectacular fall of the Sturgeon/Dumza regime must come first to wipe the slate clean of their sleazy lying hate filled politics.

If Kate is put in place before then there's a chance the brain deads will start supporting the SNP again and we'll get another round of their independence pish.

They say a picture paints a thousand words, this one of Kate looking at Dumza say's it all...lets have a guess what she is clearly thinking.

Mine - I've been stitched up for this useless tt, your nothing but a Sturgeon stooge.

“ I bet he can’t even dress himself in the morning “

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Se7enheaven said:

“ I bet he can’t even dress himself in the morning “

When you're as crooked as that you need assistance to screw your trousers on.
Allegedly.

[Ridgemont]

Se7enheaven said:

Klippie said:

Kate can be the party leader after the general election, Dumza has to stay till then to continue making a balls-up of everything, the spectacular fall of the Sturgeon/Dumza regime must come first to wipe the slate clean of their sleazy lying hate filled politics.

If Kate is put in place before then there's a chance the brain deads will start supporting the SNP again and we'll get another round of their independence pish.

They say a picture paints a thousand words, this one of Kate looking at Dumza say's it all...lets have a guess what she is clearly thinking.

Mine - I've been stitched up for this useless tt, your nothing but a Sturgeon stooge.

“ I bet he can’t even dress himself in the morning “

Forbes gets anywhere near the position and the rainbow people and the Gardening Division will stomp off in a right old stew further fracturing the Indy movement.

You can have the wee free or you can have the rainbow nutters but you can’t have the two together. And you don’t get Indy if either wing disengages. Salmond’s big tent is going down in flames.

Ironically (maybe) Alba is the best chance for the Indy movement to get some of that 2014 vibe back but 10 years have passed and I certainly don’t think the SNP is going to roll over anytime soon. Oh dear. How sad.
Nevermind.

The inherent contradictions of Indy movement are gradually shredding it.

Time to bring out a tired but very apposite meme.

[alangla]

Good to see that quality assurance in NHS Scotland is working well https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68598288

[Roderick Spode]

Ridgemont said:

You can have the wee free or you can have the rainbow nutters but you can’t have the two together. And you don’t get Indy if either wing disengages. Salmond’s big tent is going down in flames.

I find it hilarious/hypocritical that the Gardening Division and the alphabet loons are frothing about a potential Forbes leadership bid, yet are happy to accept the views of 'proud Muslim' Dumza Yousless. I mean the guy has been merrily sending our money to fund the not-at-all-throwing-people-from-high-buildings and famously-pronoun-friendly Hamas regime in Gaza. The mental gymnastics and logical fallacies engaged to make Dumza acceptable and Forbes beyond the pale are spectacular.

It will be interesting to see where on the spectrum of hate crime legislation certain views fall, and which are protected characteristics when test cases come to prosecution...

[Leithen]

Roderick Spode said:

I find it hilarious/hypocritical that the Gardening Division and the alphabet loons are frothing about a potential Forbes leadership bid, yet are happy to accept the views of 'proud Muslim' Dumza Yousless. I mean the guy has been merrily sending our money to fund the not-at-all-throwing-people-from-high-buildings and famously-pronoun-friendly Hamas regime in Gaza. The mental gymnastics and logical fallacies engaged to make Dumza acceptable and Forbes beyond the pale are spectacular.

It will be interesting to see where on the spectrum of hate crime legislation certain views fall, and which are protected characteristics when test cases come to prosecution...

Until a candidate accepts the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I'm oot.

[Evercross]

Leithen said:

Until a candidate accepts the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I'm oot.

Yay! A fellow Pastafarian.

[EC2]

It will be interesting to see how the definition of a “reasonable person” is interpreted by Police Scotland. Views of Craig Murray:

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/03/sc...

[rider73]

EC2 said:

It will be interesting to see how the definition of a “reasonable person” is interpreted by Police Scotland. Views of Craig Murray:

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/03/sc...

it would be so easy for some one to write a 'bot' to scrape X / twitter for offensive terms and punt that to some online scottish police reporting tool or email and swamp the scottish police with millions of "incidents" to investigate.....as long as they also had a scottish postcode/address in there to show its "read" in scotland?

[irc]

It isn't looking good when Police Scotland (before the hatecrime bill is passed) will record a non crime hate incideht against an MSP without even telling them.

The letter of complaint Murso Fraser sent Police Scotland is in the link. He points out, amongst other things, that the police in England were held to be acting unlawfully in similar circumstances.


https://order-order.com/2024/03/25/tory-msp-in-leg...

[irc]

Further to above = these non crime hate incidents the police can record without twlling you about could be disclosed if you applied for a job requiring an enhanced DBS check.

"Other relevent information"

https://disclosureservices.com/products-services1/...

[jshell]

Looks like 'Wings' will be throwing in the towel over this.