Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

[Klippie]

Ahhhh...the only thing that would top this is more arrests.

This is a good day for Scotland.

[Silverbullet767]

EC2 said:

Chartering a private ferry?

Getting a few DRS machines installed at Aldi?

[rider73]

FM desperate to say how great the deal was in order , i think, to stop them immediately calling for a vote of no confidence and firing up a general election.

[irc]

Strange watching an SNP press conference where the media appear to have a backbone.

[Klippie]

Watching as well...he actually thinks they have been doing a good job, they are teetering on the brink.

[irc]

Good call on Wings. Says it is a win/win for them to call an immediate vote of no confidence in the SNP.

Win. Get an election.

Lose- means the Greens have backed the SNP just after being shafted by them. Totally discredits them.


" (We can’t see anything to lose for Sarwar and Ross. If they call the vote and the Greens DID back the SNP, the Greens would look completely absurd and the SNP would once again look totally beholden to them and Yousaf would have enraged his former allies and torpedoed his majority for nothing."

https://wingsoverscotland.com/the-people-we-dont-w...

FMQs this afternoon will be interesting

[EC2]

irc said:

Strange watching an SNP press conference where the media appear to have a backbone.

Yes, a change from the past. Having met Sturgeon a few times through work you could tell that her staff were petrified of her. It amazed me that the media did not keep asking the obvious questions over many years. I guess covid extended her tenure a few years as the patronising daily briefings went down well compared with Boris' bad hair days. A good reminder that you don't have to achieve anything tangible in politics other than being a bit more impressive than the other person.

[Evercross]

irc said:

Good call on Wings. Says it is a win/win for them to call an immediate vote of no confidence in the SNP.

Win. Get an election.

Lose- means the Greens have backed the SNP just after being shafted by them. Totally discredits them.


" (We can’t see anything to lose for Sarwar and Ross. If they call the vote and the Greens DID back the SNP, the Greens would look completely absurd and the SNP would once again look totally beholden to them and Yousaf would have enraged his former allies and torpedoed his majority for nothing."

There is an alternative interpretation in that if the Greens do back the SNP then it strengthens Humza as it means he has demonstrated that he is in fact not beholden to them but they are to him. He cuts them off but they still vote to keep him as FM just to save their own seats.

For once fair play to the guy, but the only reason he's done this is because everyone is positioning for a General Election. If Humza had maintained course he would have 100% been out on his arse as SNP leader following the national vote, but this gives him a glimmer of a chance of holding on until the next Holyrood election.

Edited by Evercross on Thursday 25th April 11:15

[sherman]

HUMZAS BOOTED THE GREENS.

SNP MINORITY GOVERNMENT
BBC News - Humza Yousaf leads minority Scottish government as he ends power deal with Greens - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cz5dy15grjnt

Long live the collapse

[Evercross]

sherman said:

HUMZAS BOOTED THE GREENS.

SNP MINORITY GOVERNMENT
BBC News - Humza Yousaf leads minority Scottish government as he ends power deal with Greens - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cz5dy15grjnt

Long live the collapse

Get with the plot man, we've been discussing this for two hours already.

Actually, no. It's funny reading about it again!

Edited by Evercross on Thursday 25th April 11:43

[tim0409]

Scenes outside the Scottish Parliament in the last hour….Freddie likes to insert himself right into the political drama.

[dxg]

Tom8 said:

Just need plod to knock on Sturgeon's door once more.

Call me a cynic, but isn't this a massive squirrel for any arrest of Sturgeon?

After all, Useless is her right hand man, and she's "not available" next week. The papers will be full of this for the next few days...

[dxg]

Taffer said:

Evercross said:

Humza saw the car crash coming for once and went into damage limitation mode.

'You didn't dump me - I dumped you' - politically handled with all the grace of a teenage breakup.

That's literally the point made by Ruth Davidson on Times Radio a couple of minutes ago.

Hello Ruth!

[Rick_1138]

rider73 said:

FM desperate to say how great the deal was in order , i think, to stop them immediately calling for a vote of no confidence and firing up a general election.

I saw that.

"It was a gold match up"

Then in the same breath, but it's not now.

Subtlety isn't his game and I can see wee paddy dwarf and Lorna being bitter and vengeful.

Lol

[irc]

Rick_1138 said:

I saw that.

"It was a gold match up"

Then in the same breath, but it's not now.

Subtlety isn't his game and I can see wee paddy dwarf and Lorna being bitter and vengeful.

Lol

Yes I wonder if their bitterness about being jilted and losing their ministerial status and salary would be enough for them to abstain in a confidence vote?

[Snow and Rocks]

dxg said:

Call me a cynic, but isn't this a massive squirrel for any arrest of Sturgeon?

After all, Useless is her right hand man, and she's "not available" next week. The papers will be full of this for the next few days...

I doubt even this will take the heat off Sturgeon if she is arrested again - most of the public are far more interested in Sturgeon getting her comeuppance than in the falling outs of a group of relative nobodies.

[emicen]

Ross confirms he’s lodging a vote of no confidence.

[Tom8]

Was always strange. SNP all about independence funded by oil. Then pair up with the greens. The greens, like Starmer trying to put Corbyn in office, completely ignored any principles they may have thought they had. Now reality strikes. Glorious.

[sherman]

irc said:

Rick_1138 said:

I saw that.

"It was a gold match up"

Then in the same breath, but it's not now.

Subtlety isn't his game and I can see wee paddy dwarf and Lorna being bitter and vengeful.

Lol

Yes I wonder if their bitterness about being jilted and losing their ministerial status and salary would be enough for them to abstain in a confidence vote?

Going by what Harvie just said at FMQs. He is ready to vote down everything.

[Rick_1138]

sherman said:

Going by what Harvie just said at FMQs. He is ready to vote down everything.

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