Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12
Discussion
biggbn said:
Brilliant line from STV Scottish news politics reporter this evening. He was asked if he thought Humza could lead the SNP into the next election and he replied 'I don't think he can lead them into next month ' . Utterly brilliant.
Yep I loved that one. He was going for the jugular Se7enheaven said:
biggbn said:
Brilliant line from STV Scottish news politics reporter this evening. He was asked if he thought Humza could lead the SNP into the next election and he replied 'I don't think he can lead them into next month ' . Utterly brilliant.
Yep I loved that one. He was going for the jugular the comment is at 3.24 minutes
anonymoususer said:
Se7enheaven said:
biggbn said:
Brilliant line from STV Scottish news politics reporter this evening. He was asked if he thought Humza could lead the SNP into the next election and he replied 'I don't think he can lead them into next month ' . Utterly brilliant.
Yep I loved that one. He was going for the jugular the comment is at 3.24 minutes
wc98 said:
With the true nature of many of its incumbents finally being broadcast for all to see i hope this spurs more people on to have the diddy parliament removed forever. It's a needless waste of time, space and money with nothing good coming from it since inception, nothing.
^^^^ this. The events over the last few years have shown them to be utterly incompetent and out of their depth with zero regard for anyone but themselves.Holyrood should be renamed Narcissism Central.
Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others.
As entertaining as the last few days have been its distracting from the main event...Operation Branchform.
Its far from concluded, Old Pete's been charged so that's one down...who's next, I've got fingers crossed there will be many more.
Perhaps the plod are waiting for Dumza to be booted out before commencing with more arrests, that will clear out the last of Sturgeon's stooges.
Its far from concluded, Old Pete's been charged so that's one down...who's next, I've got fingers crossed there will be many more.
Perhaps the plod are waiting for Dumza to be booted out before commencing with more arrests, that will clear out the last of Sturgeon's stooges.
Edited by Klippie on Friday 26th April 23:52
A long read for anyone interested in the ferry scandal and how we got here. Including the history of Calmac.
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v44/n18/ian-jack/c...
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v44/n18/ian-jack/c...
irc said:
Also makes the very good point that had Useless handled ending the Bute House in a more dignified manner it might have been different. Useless has form for making major policy changes on the hoof without consultation and warning. Council tax freeze for example. I have no idea how someone whose political skills are so lacking ended up as FM.
I mentioned yesterday that a fair few of us in here had predicted a year ago that Humza's demeanour would be the cause of his (fairly rapid) downfall and thus it has been so.His soundbite this last week has been that he would come out of this 'fighting', but fighting has been his problem from day 1.
I said yesterday that Humza had no a conciliatory bone in his body, and that defined his very first day in office - being unable to find a way to accommodate his two leadership rivals in his first cabinet or wider executive thus immediately alienating the majority of SNP party members who had made either of those two rivals to Humza their first choice as leader.
He also made no apologies for the failings of his predecessor and instead made bold pronouncements that he would wholeheartedly and unquestioningly continue to pursue the arrangements and policies that had proven problematic for the previous incumbent (Bute House Agreement, GRR Supreme Court Appeal etc. etc.).
From an appalling starting point almost entirely of his own making he then proceeded to make things worse. His modus operandi when debating and when questioned was to continue to go all-guns-blazing to make grandiose attacks on ALL his opposition even if the question put to him didn't merit it, with his responses appearing overly aggressive and at the same time too obviously evasive, presenting an image of someone who is difficult to deal with regardless of what you were asking of him.
As political observers said - his (probably a bit too late) ditching of the
I also said it was ironic that Humza invoked Liz Truss this week at FMQs. Humza is objectively a worse politician than Truss IMO. Truss at least had a vision that in the right conditions and at a time when the appetite for it existed would have been welcome and could have succeeded, but she was naive to believe that she could just create those conditions and appetite in a matter of days. Humza on the other hand has nothing. He's the walking epitome of what I said all along the SNP is - a party of protest, not governance.
All he knows how to do is to protest and argue. In some ways he's an apt face to be the representative of the decline of the Scottish Nationalists.
Edited by Evercross on Saturday 27th April 09:02
I really tire or articles that state Yousef is a “nice guy” like the latest in The Times; “Nice guy but he’s got no ideas and nowhere to go” is the headline.
I worked in politics for five years, and I know a number of people who had to endure Yousaf on a daily basis and he is anything but “nice”. He doesn’t even hide it in public where it is patently obvious who he is despite the occasional doe eyed smile. I can’t imagine anyone less suited to the role of FM, especially when it requires a collegiate approach when you run a minority administration. For all his faults Salmond excelled at this, and realised that if you want to further the cause of independence, demonising those who you need to win over is not the best strategy.
I’m sure Yousaf has a team of highly paid advisors, but my advice to him would be simple. When you reach a decision that you have carefully considered and feel is the right thing to do, do the complete opposite.
I worked in politics for five years, and I know a number of people who had to endure Yousaf on a daily basis and he is anything but “nice”. He doesn’t even hide it in public where it is patently obvious who he is despite the occasional doe eyed smile. I can’t imagine anyone less suited to the role of FM, especially when it requires a collegiate approach when you run a minority administration. For all his faults Salmond excelled at this, and realised that if you want to further the cause of independence, demonising those who you need to win over is not the best strategy.
I’m sure Yousaf has a team of highly paid advisors, but my advice to him would be simple. When you reach a decision that you have carefully considered and feel is the right thing to do, do the complete opposite.
Interesting headline on the front of the National today: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg30zwk7rjlo
Kate Forbes said:
Anyone who cares about Scotland should be backing FM
I’d have thought she’d have been staying quiet and waiting for Yousaf to fall on the various swords he’s laid out for himself.alangla said:
Interesting headline on the front of the National today: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg30zwk7rjlo
She probably has to make a public show of loyalty; he (or she in this case) who wields the dagger rarely wins the crown.Kate Forbes said:
Anyone who cares about Scotland should be backing FM
I’d have thought she’d have been staying quiet and waiting for Yousaf to fall on the various swords he’s laid out for himself.Quite why she would want the job is beyond me.
tim0409 said:
I can’t imagine anyone less suited to the role of FM, especially when it requires a collegiate approach when you run a minority administration. For all his faults Salmond excelled at this, and realised that if you want to further the cause of independence, demonising those who you need to win over is not the best strategy.
The "senior" (in age terms) nationalists do seem to better understand how to further their cause pragmatically, but as they die off or are marginalised for not being radical enough, we seem to end up with student political activists from a minor parochial university running the show. The fact that so many nationalists don't seem to realise that the way to win over the floating middle ground that is crucial to gaining independence is to be conciliatory and realistic reflects on their low intelligence or lack of respect for Scots in general.s2kjock said:
The "senior" (in age terms) nationalists do seem to better understand how to further their cause pragmatically, but as they die off or are marginalised for not being radical enough, we seem to end up with student political activists from a minor parochial university running the show. The fact that so many nationalists don't seem to realise that the way to win over the floating middle ground that is crucial to gaining independence is to be conciliatory and realistic reflects on their low intelligence or lack of respect for Scots in general.
Also has validity to politics more generally in that the older politicians knew better how to engage with a wider audience. Whilst the comment is true it assumes that the SNP politicians want independence which is a reasonable presumption but isn’t really the case and is why they want to remove the N from the acronym. Sturgeon demonstrated no ability to engage with the 55 because she chose not to as she and the rest of them now are just on a personal power trip. If only the 45 understood this better then they would try and act on it.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff