Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12

[Dinoboy]

[Evercross]

Klippie said:

Just when we've nearly got rid of one moron another pop's up to spout the same old pish, how many times have this lot been told there won't be another referendum which equals no independence...get it into your thick heads for fk sake.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgyxq90325o

Salmond is just grandstanding. Everyone is getting on a General Election footing, including Humza which is why he shed the Greens - I explained why on Thursday, but his cack-handedness backfired.

Salmond now sees this as an opportunity to scoop up the indynut SNP voters who still think a referendum is the road to 'freedumb'.

Everyone (Salmon included) knows it is a busted flush, but there are still a lot of blue-face-painters harking back to memories of 2014. The SNP have ran out of road as far as that is concerned, but him and Alba can pretend there's still some mileage in it.

However way you turn it, the three-way-split in the indynut vote that everyone in here predicted months ago is now becoming a reality.

Edited by Evercross on Sunday 28th April 14:34

[Ian974]

It is especially bizarre that in the middle of this mess, two parties seem to both agree that independence will resolve their problems, but will not agree with each other

[irc]

Can we get the title of this thread changed to "Scottish Politics"?

Indy is now finished.

[Klippie]

Dinoboy said:

Now that's good..!!!

[Klippie]

irc said:

Can we get the title of this thread changed to "Scottish Politics"?

Indy is now finished.

Hold your horse's...there's election's first, then we can all go for it...I can't wait for the Labour thread to kick off.

[reddiesel]

Klippie said:

Just when we've nearly got rid of one moron another pop's up to spout the same old pish, how many times have this lot been told there won't be another referendum which equals no independence...get it into your thick heads for fk sake.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgyxq90325o

I don't see this as the spouting of " Independence Pish " as you so elegantly put it . Salmond like everyone else knows that Independence is now a non starter with the Scottish Electorate , unfortunately just like the SNP , Alba are saddled with it as their raison d etre so he clearly cant come out and say it . All Salmond is doing in this broadcast is cynically appealing to the ultra Nationalists within the SNP to propel his one trick donkey into a position of influence by being a friendly foe who only wants to get " back to basics ". Alba is a vehicle for Alec Salmond , nothing more .
I laughed when he had the cheek to talk of bringing jobs to Scotland . Wasn't this Bloke that led a formal Trade Delegation to Iran back in 2015 and came back with nothing ?

[A.J.M]

Another polite “fk off useless” from the Lib Dem’s this time

[sherman]

A.J.M said:

Another polite “fk off useless” from the Lib Dem’s this time

Thats quite brutal language from the Lib Dems.

[reddiesel]

Klippie said:

Hold your horse's...there's election's first, then we can all go for it...I can't wait for the Labour thread to kick off.

The Election of Starmer has all the hallmarks of pathos being followed by tragedy for Scotland . I genuinely hope I have this wrong but I honestly feel this Bloke is a turnip . Ultimately you can promise and say anything when you aren't in power and this Bloke already fiscally poor is going nowhere . This is the flaw of Democracy the world over , that reflex action come Election Time when the People are seduced by the Snake Oil Salesmen . I have lived and earned money in the South East since I was 16 and I have never seen thing so bleak . The taxation burden both direct and indirect is beginning to make working for yourself no longer pay and incredibly that's under a Conservative Government .

[Klippie]

reddiesel said:

I don't see this as the spouting of " Independence Pish " as you so elegantly put it . Salmond like everyone else knows that Independence is now a non starter with the Scottish Electorate , unfortunately just like the SNP , Alba are saddled with it as their raison d etre so he clearly cant come out and say it . All Salmond is doing in this broadcast is cynically appealing to the ultra Nationalists within the SNP to propel his one trick donkey into a position of influence by being a friendly foe who only wants to get " back to basics ". Alba is a vehicle for Alec Salmond , nothing more .
I laughed when he had the cheek to talk of bringing jobs to Scotland . Wasn't this Bloke that led a formal Trade Delegation to Iran back in 2015 and came back with nothing ?

It's in the headline - " Independence Plan " listen I know he's trying to appeal to the face painter ilk but that's what he said.

[Evercross]

sherman said:

Thats quite brutal language from the Lib Dems.

It's actually hilarious.

Humza is so politically inept it beggars belief. His letters to the other parties was his metaphorically showing them his arse so they could give it a massive kicking, and they are absolutely taking the opportunity to do so.

reddiesel said:

The Election of Starmer has all the hallmarks of pathos being followed by tragedy for Scotland . I genuinely hope I have this wrong but I honestly feel this Bloke is a turnip. Ultimately you can promise and say anything when you aren't in power and this Bloke, already fiscally poor, is going nowhere. This is the flaw of Democracy the world over , that reflex action come Election Time when the People are seduced by the Snake Oil Salesmen . I have lived and earned money in the South East since I was 16 and I have never seen thing so bleak. The taxation burden both direct and indirect is beginning to make working for yourself no longer pay and incredibly that's under a Conservative Government.

I agree that in the wider context of the UK a Labour Government is simply replacing one form of st with another, but in the Scottish context having a unified national government presents the opportunity to undo all of the 'different for the sake of being different' complexity, waste and inefficiency the SNP have implemented while they attempted to present a false impression to the world that Scotland was in fact independent.

Unified tax laws and a dismantling of the exceptionally inefficient parallel benefits system will at a stroke improve the situation fiscally both for the people and the Government of Scotland.

Edited by Evercross on Sunday 28th April 17:02

[sherman]

Im calling it Humzas gone by end of day Monday.


No need for Conservative VoNC but Labour VoNC can still go a head.

Rumors of a July election from Rishi.
Double election time for us all.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24284345.humza-y...

Edited by sherman on Monday 29th April 00:23

[Rick_1138]

said:

Saw in the news rumour John swinney may be asked to be interim leader.

If it wasn't our real govt I'd find it funny

[Error_404_Username_not_found]

Swinney might even go for it. He seems to have an insatiable appetite for going under the bus.

[hidetheelephants]

Rick_1138 said:

If it wasn't our real govt I'd find it funny

It's ok, they aren't a real govt!

[sherman]

Rick_1138 said:

said:

Saw in the news rumour John swinney may be asked to be interim leader.

If it wasn't our real govt I'd find it funny

I called that on Friday too.

[Silverbullet767]

sherman said:

Im calling it Humzas gone by end of day Monday.


No need for Conservative VoNC but Labour VoNC can still go a head.

Rumors of a July election from Rishi.
Double election time for us all.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24284345.humza-y...

Edited by sherman on Monday 29th April 00:23

Now being widely reported, tipped to quit.

[tim0409]

Early morning walk through Edinburgh to collect my car…looks like this will be Yousaf’s last dawn as FM..

[tim0409]

tim0409 said:

I know this may be a little far fetched, but I can see Yousaf resigning before Wednesday’s vote.

To be fair, this prediction didn’t really need a massive amount of foresight, even on Thursday last week.