Pontins in trouble for filtering traveller types
Discussion
Snow and Rocks said:
Alickadoo said:
Because it was nothing to do with the police. It is a civil matter, not criminal.
Next time you have a meal in a restaurant, walk out without paying. Calling the police will do nothing, because it's nothing to do with them.
Utter tosh - the police sorted it out every other time I had someone who refused to pay their fare. Usually getting the police involved was enough to make the money appear quite quickly but one repeat offender got charged.Next time you have a meal in a restaurant, walk out without paying. Calling the police will do nothing, because it's nothing to do with them.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Why does anyone want to go to Pontins?
I went as a child and I still remember it as a grey, cold dull place.
Relatively cheap versus say Center Parcs.I went as a child and I still remember it as a grey, cold dull place.
Good for large groups of multi generational families.
Easy to get to.
Relatively safe for kids to roam and be feral.
It's not for me but if you want to get 20 people in your family together and you don't have much money it probably fits the purpose.
Alickadoo said:
Snow and Rocks said:
I think it's a policy shared by a lot companies, they just generally don't publicise the fact.
When I worked as a taxi driver as a student, there's no way we would send a car to a traveller's site because you almost never got paid and the police wouldn't do anything about it.
Because it was nothing to do with the police. It is a civil matter, not criminal.When I worked as a taxi driver as a student, there's no way we would send a car to a traveller's site because you almost never got paid and the police wouldn't do anything about it.
Next time you have a meal in a restaurant, walk out without paying. Calling the police will do nothing, because it's nothing to do with them.
An example from the other day: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-68290682.amp
Dog Star said:
Sorry for dragging the thread off topic….
I'm not sure you can do that when there is no link to a story in the first place. When I search on line I find lots of stories about Pontins having a blacklist of Irish names though. 21TonyK links us to an old story on the same issue on page 2 as well.I dont really like the idea of a blacklist of names and am not surprised they got in trouble over it. No doubt the list isn't the only part of the criteria though. It's just the bit that makes the best headline. The way the media works though I guess. MSM or not.
I recall back in the day in Northern Ireland, those of a thieving nomadic persuasion were causing generalised civil unrest with the locals in a certain town, settling on spare ground, stealing anything not nailed down liberating idle vehicles, smashing up pubs and shops, fighting with everyone. The solution proposed by the council was to splash a few million quid on a purpose built estate of houses on the edge of the town centre, tidy little bungalows with gardens, driveways, and an extensive laydown area for vans & caravans. Most commendable.
The, (ahem), protected community moved in en masse, and within six months the houses had been gutted of anything useful, driveways and gardens ripped up and destroyed,stolen under-utilised cars abandoned on the laydown area, huge piles of rubbish strewn across the whole place - basically a complete eyesore. The council went in periodically to clear up, undertake repairs, make the place presentable and habitable again while the travelling types were away for their summer fairs or imposing their cultural enrichment on other unsuspecting communities, before the cycle repeated itself again over and over. This went on for the best part of a decade until the houses were rendered uninhabitable - they pulled the roof off several of them, and burned several others out. The estate sat like that for years, a testament to the good intentions of the council, but an impossible task with said community.
Protected characteristics my arse.
The, (ahem), protected community moved in en masse, and within six months the houses had been gutted of anything useful, driveways and gardens ripped up and destroyed,
Protected characteristics my arse.
MrBogSmith said:
ot true. It depends on the circumstances and may be making off without payment, both for the taxi and restaurant.
An example from the other day: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-68290682.amp
Not untrue. It depends upon the circs. If you have a dispute with the supplier and refuse to pay because you claim the service was defective, then that is a civil matter.An example from the other day: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-68290682.amp
Now back to the travellers and Pontins.
Roderick Spode said:
I recall back in the day in Northern Ireland, those of a thieving nomadic persuasion were causing generalised civil unrest with the locals in a certain town, settling on spare ground, stealing anything not nailed down liberating idle vehicles, smashing up pubs and shops, fighting with everyone. The solution proposed by the council was to splash a few million quid on a purpose built estate of houses on the edge of the town centre, tidy little bungalows with gardens, driveways, and an extensive laydown area for vans & caravans. Most commendable.
The, (ahem), protected community moved in en masse, and within six months the houses had been gutted of anything useful, driveways and gardens ripped up and destroyed,stolen under-utilised cars abandoned on the laydown area, huge piles of rubbish strewn across the whole place - basically a complete eyesore. The council went in periodically to clear up, undertake repairs, make the place presentable and habitable again while the travelling types were away for their summer fairs or imposing their cultural enrichment on other unsuspecting communities, before the cycle repeated itself again over and over. This went on for the best part of a decade until the houses were rendered uninhabitable - they pulled the roof off several of them, and burned several others out. The estate sat like that for years, a testament to the good intentions of the council, but an impossible task with said community.
Protected characteristics my arse.
Yes yes yes, but what about their poor showing on the health, education and social mobility indicators eh? Society is failing them!The, (ahem), protected community moved in en masse, and within six months the houses had been gutted of anything useful, driveways and gardens ripped up and destroyed,
Protected characteristics my arse.
Slowboathome said:
Roderick Spode said:
I recall back in the day in Northern Ireland, those of a thieving nomadic persuasion were causing generalised civil unrest with the locals in a certain town, settling on spare ground, stealing anything not nailed down liberating idle vehicles, smashing up pubs and shops, fighting with everyone. The solution proposed by the council was to splash a few million quid on a purpose built estate of houses on the edge of the town centre, tidy little bungalows with gardens, driveways, and an extensive laydown area for vans & caravans. Most commendable.
The, (ahem), protected community moved in en masse, and within six months the houses had been gutted of anything useful, driveways and gardens ripped up and destroyed,stolen under-utilised cars abandoned on the laydown area, huge piles of rubbish strewn across the whole place - basically a complete eyesore. The council went in periodically to clear up, undertake repairs, make the place presentable and habitable again while the travelling types were away for their summer fairs or imposing their cultural enrichment on other unsuspecting communities, before the cycle repeated itself again over and over. This went on for the best part of a decade until the houses were rendered uninhabitable - they pulled the roof off several of them, and burned several others out. The estate sat like that for years, a testament to the good intentions of the council, but an impossible task with said community.
Protected characteristics my arse.
Yes yes yes, but what about their poor showing on the health, education and social mobility indicators eh? Society is failing them!The, (ahem), protected community moved in en masse, and within six months the houses had been gutted of anything useful, driveways and gardens ripped up and destroyed,
Protected characteristics my arse.
Maybe humans arent designed for a nomadic lifestyle as one basic tenet is you dont s
t on your own doorstep, but if you dont have a doorstep you can st where you like and then get out before any consequences arise, and if they do claim discrimination or threaten/use your bare knuckle fighting skills.It going to get more difficult for them now as stuff is better tracked, CCTV, camera phones and things are more joined up so its not as easy to just dissapear with no evidence.
We had them on the park a couple of streets away in the summer, werent there long and either the council got in quick and cleared up or they didnt leave a mess, was nice and dry so the football pitch didnt get turned into a quagmire. The did leave dog tied up and left one year though, was there for a while before anyone saw it.
vaud said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Why does anyone want to go to Pontins?
I went as a child and I still remember it as a grey, cold dull place.
Relatively cheap versus say Center Parcs.I went as a child and I still remember it as a grey, cold dull place.
Good for large groups of multi generational families.
Easy to get to.
Relatively safe for kids to roam and be feral.
vixen1700 said:
Went to one one when I was a kid and had my picture taken holding a snooker cue alongside Ray Reardon. 
Ray Reardon is 91.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Reardon
Alickadoo said:
Well this would have been around 1973 or 1974.
I also got a rosette for coming second in the Donkey Derby.
Edited by vixen1700 on Friday 16th February 10:31
Alickadoo said:
Wow, I thought he'd died a couple of decades ago. Read his biography once, surprisingly good. (Why I read a Snooker bio, I have no idea.)BikeBikeBIke said:
All the pubs in my area close when travellers are in town.
We occasionally had the doasyoulikies try to pitch up on the green; there must be an Enfield underground network as all the pubs immediately have "locals only" signs and service. They get moved on pretty quickly too, in fact been ages since they tried so maybe they've given up.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff