2 yo falls in river

[Muddle238]

TeamD said:

Drumroll said:

TeamD said:

Is that particularly relevant?

It could be, we don't know. But we are not jumping to conclusions, without any evidence, unlike some.

Not much point in pointing out to you that the photograph could have been taken several miles downstream from where the incident happened. As you already Know where it was and what happened.

You so desperate to virtue signal that you refuse to accept the bleeding obvious don't you?

Mate, seriously. Give your head a wobble and climb off that high horse back down to reality. Or lay off the potions for a while.

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Hoofy said:

There's a section of the Thames not far from me, and during high tide, it comes up onto the promenade. I can imagine a kid having a splish splash in 2cm of water with the parents watching on, not realising that 2ft away is a 10ft drop that's hidden by the water. A child would probably float but there's still a risk of drowning and being drawn away by the current. And no signs that I noticed.

Something similar to this happened in Burnham on Sea a few years back. Slipway leads down to the river but has a sharp drop off the end. Very muddy water. In one step you're ankle deep, the next its 10ft, with a current and zero visibility.

[Tankrizzo]

TeamD said:

You so desperate to virtue signal that you refuse to accept the bleeding obvious don't you?

You are coming across as an absolute tosser here. Maybe that's your thing, who knows.

[Eyersey1234]

This is so sad. The parents will be devastated.

[okgo]

Previous said:

Something similar to this happened in Burnham on Sea a few years back. Slipway leads down to the river but has a sharp drop off the end. Very muddy water. In one step you're ankle deep, the next its 10ft, with a current and zero visibility.

So where don’t you let your kids play…? Next to a swollen river Thames and the exact place you’ve mentioned when they can’t swim would be high up my list, tbh.

It’s a tragedy but it’s moronic to take a 2 year old next to a river in that state regardless, or any river if you aren’t going to literally be watching them constantly. Nothing surprises me anymore though.

Accidents do happen, but they’ll more regularly happen if you put yourself in positions like this.

Edited by okgo on Tuesday 20th February 10:55

Edited by okgo on Tuesday 20th February 11:00

[President Merkin]

TeamD said:

You so desperate to virtue signal that you refuse to accept the bleeding obvious don't you?

Nothing says virtue signalling quite like sticking your size tens into freshly bereaved parents who would no doubt give everything they have to be able to turn back the clock.

The entirety of your stty position hinges on the idea of neglect and your own infallibility. You have no idea of the circumstances whatsoever & so are way out of order sitting on your shiny moral throne. Unless we find out to the contrary, the only rational position to take is sympathy for this family. Be rational or be quiet.

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Tankrizzo said:

TeamD said:

You so desperate to virtue signal that you refuse to accept the bleeding obvious don't you?

You are coming across as an absolute tosser here.

Yep.

[ChocolateFrog]

TeamD said:

I'm angry for the kid, someone took their eye of the ball. I have 3 kids and they're still alive because they were properly supervised (they're grown up now with kids of their own who also haven't fallen in any rivers.)

Arrogant and callous congratulations.

As a parent of a 2 and 3 year old I can see how something like this could happen.

Every parents worst nightmare.

[okgo]

ChocolateFrog said:

Arrogant and callous congratulations.

As a parent of a 2 and 3 year old I can see how something like this could happen.

Every parents worst nightmare.

Genuinely - how do you see how this happens?

Because I don’t. 13 year old, yes, easily see how it happens, but 2?

[anonymous-user]

okgo said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Arrogant and callous congratulations.

As a parent of a 2 and 3 year old I can see how something like this could happen.

Every parents worst nightmare.

Genuinely - how do you see how this happens?

Because I don’t. 13 year old, yes, easily see how it happens, but 2?

Especially if they're on reins as well.

[monthou]

According to the Telegraph the child fell from a footbridge, the father went in after them.
Tragic, I can't begin to imagine how the parents must feel.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/19/search...

[BikeBikeBIke]

okgo said:

Previous said:

Something similar to this happened in Burnham on Sea a few years back. Slipway leads down to the river but has a sharp drop off the end. Very muddy water. In one step you're ankle deep, the next its 10ft, with a current and zero visibility.

So where don’t you let your kids play…? Next to a swollen river Thames and the fking sea when they can’t swim would be high up my list, tbh.

It’s a tragedy but it’s moronic to take a 2 year old next to a river in that state regardless, or any river if you aren’t going to literally be watching them constantly. Nothing surprises me anymore though.

Accidents do happen, but they’ll more regularly happen if you put yourself in positions like this.

My kids played by and on the sea as two year olds and near and on a canal. They also got walked on pavements by roads.

Yes, they could have darted away and killed themselves, before someone grabbed them or a car could have mounted the pavement and killed them. We used to use balance bikes amd walk on a shared use path as well, they could have been kicked in the head by a horse or been wiped out by a mountain biker.

That's the risk you take when you give children a normal active life.

I suspect the people describing this as neglect are either forgetting the adventures they had with their own kids, don't have kids, or have cpcuch potatoe kids.

[Petrus1983]

monthou said:

According to the Telegraph the child fell from a footbridge, the father went in after them.
Tragic, I can't begin to imagine how the parents must feel.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/19/search...

I hope he's getting the support he needs - but I doubt they'll ever be enough real support. One PHer alluded to what happened after a tragic accident and she lost her children on page one of this thread - hope it doesn't end up the same.

Edited by Petrus1983 on Tuesday 20th February 11:09

[BikeBikeBIke]

okgo said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Arrogant and callous congratulations.

As a parent of a 2 and 3 year old I can see how something like this could happen.

Every parents worst nightmare.

Genuinely - how do you see how this happens?

Because a 2yo has an occasional burst of speed and parents can occasionally be distracted.

[okgo]

BikeBikeBIke said:

My kids played by and on the sea as two year olds and near and on a canal. They also got walked on pavements by roads.

Yes, they could have darted away and killed themselves, before someone grabbed them or a car could have mounted the pavement and killed them. We used to use balance bikes amd walk on a shared use path as well, they could have been kicked in the head by a horse or been wiped out by a mountain biker.

That's the risk you take when you give children a normal active life.

I suspect the people describing this as neglect are either forgetting the adventures they had with their own kids, don't have kids, or have cpcuch potatoe kids.

All of what you mention isn’t really similar to taking a 2 year old near to a flooded river at night, is it.

I have a 3.5 year old, I do all of what you’ve said. Those things bear little resemblance to what’s happened here, IMO.

[monthou]

okgo said:

All of what you mention isn’t really similar to taking a 2 year old near to a flooded river at night, is it.

I have a 3.5 year old, I do all of what you’ve said. Those things bear little resemblance to what’s happened here, IMO.

You don't know what happened here.
None of us do.
You should shut up, but you won't.

[BikeBikeBIke]

pocketspring said:

Especially if they're on reins as well.

I think reins have gone out of fashion. We used reins with ours sometimes and I don't remember seeing any other parents using reigns and people used to tut at us for 'treating our child like a dog'. You can't win.

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Tuesday 20th February 12:12

[budgie smuggler]

BikeBikeBIke said:

Because a 2yo has an occasional burst of speed and parents can occasionally be distracted.

Exactly, and also to those mentioning reins, I've had a set come unclipped once. Must have been either not quite clicked in correctly or caught in her coat or something. But anyway I yanked my daughter back and it just flew open. A small mistake but could have been lethal if it had happened somewhere else. Guess I should hand myself in for child neglect.

[BikeBikeBIke]

okgo said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

My kids played by and on the sea as two year olds and near and on a canal. They also got walked on pavements by roads.

Yes, they could have darted away and killed themselves, before someone grabbed them or a car could have mounted the pavement and killed them. We used to use balance bikes amd walk on a shared use path as well, they could have been kicked in the head by a horse or been wiped out by a mountain biker.

That's the risk you take when you give children a normal active life.

I suspect the people describing this as neglect are either forgetting the adventures they had with their own kids, don't have kids, or have cpcuch potatoe kids.

All of what you mention isn’t really similar to taking a 2 year old near to a flooded river at night, is it.

I have a 3.5 year old, I do all of what you’ve said. Those things bear little resemblance to what’s happened here, IMO.

It's identical. The only difference is by pure chance a car didn't mount the pavement and kill ours and they didn't dart away at the wrong moment.

[sugerbear]

I had a friend who refused to allow his three children to go to the local park because.. "peado's", his kids stayed at home and played in the garden. He also sent them to martial arts clubs so they could look after themselves as well.

I thought it was very odd, he said the same of me for putting my children at risk. #shrugsshoulders

I expect that if anything happened to my kids he would be one of the first ones on facebook shouting how terrible a parent I was.

Sometimes st happens and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.