Awful driving incident leaves one dead

[Alickadoo]

In 2022, 1,711 people were killed in traffic accidents in the UK. That is an average of almost 5 a day.

This sort of thing - perhaps not as graphic - happens 5 times a day.

If certain people had not done certain things, 5 people a day would be alive, not dead.

Edited by Alickadoo on Monday 19th February 16:24

Edited by Alickadoo on Monday 19th February 16:25

[JagLover]

Countdown said:

Chrisgr31 said:

Problem is it’s this sort of driving that supports the arguments of those that say Speed Kills etc and leads to reductions in speed limits even though they weren’t adhering to the existing limit

Maybe leaving the speed limits as they are and having more cameras would help. At least that way (hopefully) selfish s like this would get banned at some point.

Looking at that footage, more traffic police testing drivers for drink and drugs might be more useful than ticketing people doing 35 in a 30.

[Rusty Old-Banger]

CT05 Nose Cone said:

Slightly better view, and a dash cam who you can see flashing their lights at him right at the start. I guess by the way he overtook the cam car he wasn't expecting the road to narrow.

https://twitter.com/figureschaser/status/175936290...

Post says 4 deaths?? And looks like the car accelerates in to the accident.

I hope the driver is in some serious fking pain.

[turbobloke]

sherbertdip said:

Surely nobody, even an idiot intentionally drives at the speed on such a crowded road, racing? Driving as if they're blind!

Even if it was a suicide attempt I'm sure a tree would have been more effective.

Having watched the brief vid clip and noted the level of lunacy involved, my first thoughts were along those lines, suicide by RTA - or, as per another suggestion made earlier, a foot stuck in the footwell keeping the gas pedal mashed.

[Wills2]

Alickadoo said:

I 1922, 1,711 people were killed in traffic accidents in the UK. That is an average of almost 5 a day.

This sort of thing - perhaps not as graphic - happens 5 times a day.

If certain people had not done certain things, 5 people a day would be alive, not dead.

I think you mean 2022 rather than 1922, anyway that's a very small number when you look at how many miles are driven and the traffic density, accidents do happen, medical emergencies happen, mechanical failures happen, bad weather happens and of course criminality happens.

More than 3 times as many people die after an accident at home each year than do on our roads.

[Countdown]

JagLover said:

Countdown said:

Chrisgr31 said:

Problem is it’s this sort of driving that supports the arguments of those that say Speed Kills etc and leads to reductions in speed limits even though they weren’t adhering to the existing limit

Maybe leaving the speed limits as they are and having more cameras would help. At least that way (hopefully) selfish s like this would get banned at some point.

Looking at that footage, more traffic police testing drivers for drink and drugs might be more useful than ticketing people doing 35 in a 30.

That guy wasn't doing "35 in a 30" and (based on persona experience) there are an awful lot of self entitled pricks who regularly drive like that without the excuse of being drunk or on drugs.

[basherX]

Rusty Old-Banger said:

CT05 Nose Cone said:

Slightly better view, and a dash cam who you can see flashing their lights at him right at the start. I guess by the way he overtook the cam car he wasn't expecting the road to narrow.

https://twitter.com/figureschaser/status/175936290...

Post says 4 deaths?? And looks like the car accelerates in to the accident.

I hope the driver is in some serious fking pain.

The dash cam footage is further down the thread

https://x.com/___mdm/status/1759535293609246973?s=...

[MitchT]

The dash cam footage reminds me of numerous pieces of driving I've seen around Bradford. Basically people who have no fear of dying.

[Alickadoo]

Wills2 said:

I think you mean 2022 rather than 1922, anyway that's a very small number when you look at how many miles are driven and the traffic density, accidents do happen, medical emergencies happen, mechanical failures happen, bad weather happens and of course criminality happens.

More than 3 times as many people die after an accident at home each year than do on our roads.

Now corrected.

[Earthdweller]

Alickadoo said:

In 2022, 1,711 people were killed in traffic accidents in the UK. That is an average of almost 5 a day.

This sort of thing - perhaps not as graphic - happens 5 times a day.

If certain people had not done certain things, 5 people a day would be alive, not dead.

Edited by Alickadoo on Monday 19th February 16:24

Edited by Alickadoo on Monday 19th February 16:25

The U.K. has some of the safest roads in the world

Not all road fatalities are caused by human error, most are by error or bad decision making, but some are caused by random factors

[Pickled Piper]

Sadly, that type of driving is not unusual in Birmingham. It's usually youngsters playing Grand Theft Auto in real life. Car is often registered to a family member living abroad.

Brum is vying with Bradford for most road based fkwittery.

[turbobloke]

Earthdweller said:

Alickadoo said:

In 2022, 1,711 people were killed in traffic accidents in the UK. That is an average of almost 5 a day.

This sort of thing - perhaps not as graphic - happens 5 times a day.

If certain people had not done certain things, 5 people a day would be alive, not dead.

Edited by Alickadoo on Monday 19th February 16:24

Edited by Alickadoo on Monday 19th February 16:25

The U.K. has some of the safest roads in the world

Without diverting the thread (hopefully) and with the higher annual total of deaths due to accidents in the home compared to on the roads in mind as per a previous posy, in my view one of the most surprising and shocking fatality numbers involves people going into hospital for one reason, catching an infection there (nosocomial) then dying from it and coming out in a box. The most recent data I've seen relates to 2016/17 when there were 22,800 such deaths in hospitals in England only. Homes may be a lot less safe than roads, hospitals are worse. That's from a paper by Guest et al in the BMJ.

Back on topic, this is a relatively recent update with additional information at the 'Read More' links early on.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-new...

[oyster]

turbobloke said:

Earthdweller said:

Alickadoo said:

In 2022, 1,711 people were killed in traffic accidents in the UK. That is an average of almost 5 a day.

This sort of thing - perhaps not as graphic - happens 5 times a day.

If certain people had not done certain things, 5 people a day would be alive, not dead.

Edited by Alickadoo on Monday 19th February 16:24

Edited by Alickadoo on Monday 19th February 16:25

The U.K. has some of the safest roads in the world

Without diverting the thread (hopefully) and with the higher annual total of deaths due to accidents in the home compared to on the roads in mind as per a previous posy, in my view one of the most surprising and shocking fatality numbers involves people going into hospital for one reason, catching an infection there (nosocomial) then dying from it and coming out in a box. The most recent data I've seen relates to 2016/17 when there were 22,800 such deaths in hospitals in England only. Homes may be a lot less safe than roads, hospitals are worse. That's from a paper by Guest et al in the BMJ.

Back on topic, this is a relatively recent update with additional information at the 'Read More' links early on.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-new...

But ill people go into hospital.
Mostly elderly ones.

The people least equipped to deal with an infection.

[Countdown]

MitchT said:

The dash cam footage reminds me of numerous pieces of driving I've seen around Bradford. Basically people who have no fear of dying.

I don't think it's "no fear of dying". i think they're too stupid to realise the level of risk they're taking. People who drive like cretins aren't usually clever enough to realise that they're driving like cretins

[Murph7355]

Countdown said:

JagLover said:

Countdown said:

Chrisgr31 said:

Problem is it’s this sort of driving that supports the arguments of those that say Speed Kills etc and leads to reductions in speed limits even though they weren’t adhering to the existing limit

Maybe leaving the speed limits as they are and having more cameras would help. At least that way (hopefully) selfish s like this would get banned at some point.

Looking at that footage, more traffic police testing drivers for drink and drugs might be more useful than ticketing people doing 35 in a 30.

That guy wasn't doing "35 in a 30" and (based on persona experience) there are an awful lot of self entitled pricks who regularly drive like that without the excuse of being drunk or on drugs.

Looking at the dashcam footage, utter fkwittery at play.

Banning people like this makes no difference. Manslaughter, jail for a long time. Get them off the road and out of society.

[poo at Paul's]

My guess is some local rude boy high as a kite on balloons.

Poor people caught up in that utter insanity. Sadly it goes on in certain areas every night of the week.

[LM240]

Sad so many seemed more interested in filming for the socials than doing anything meaningful or just going away if they had no useful part to play.

[paulw123]

poo at Paul's said:

My guess is some local rude boy high as a kite on balloons.

Poor people caught up in that utter insanity. Sadly it goes on in certain areas every night of the week.

If he's found to be to blame I hope he get the book thrown at him

[119]

LM240 said:

Sad so many seemed more interested in filming for the socials than doing anything meaningful or just going away if they had no useful part to play.

I think one of the videos shows people helping others, but not the white Audi.

[turbobloke]

oyster said:

But ill people go into hospital.
Mostly elderly ones.

The people least equipped to deal with an infection.

Babies?

The elderly also walk, sometimes cycle...and drive and as seen in this graphic with KSI car driver casualties per billion miles driven, by age and sex,(2021) the elderly are up there so to speak. More thna 20,000 compared to fewer than 2,000 (totals) is quite a contrast.

The paper lists the major causes of fatal nosocomial infections as follows:
-extended and inappropriate use of invasive devices and antibiotics
-undergoing a high-risk and sophisticated procedure
-being immunocompromised
-underlying conditions
-Inadequate infection control expertise
-insufficient hygiene levels

Age will contribute to several and in particular underlying conditions, but it's not listed as a factor per se, it's not even mentioned.
Enough thread diversion already; the driver in this case was definitely not elderly, on the other side of the U curve.