Awful driving incident leaves one dead
Discussion
MitchT said:
oyster said:
But I'm struggling to see how car drivers and passengers have got seriously hurt in such an impact.
The car that's hit from behind is accelerated pretty much instantly to a fairly high speed and then stopped pretty much instantly by the two cars that it hits, one of which is traveling in the opposite direction. There's only so much that passive safety devices can do to mitigate the kind of internal injuries that this will cause.Pit Pony said:
If by stationary it means parked with the engine off, and the driver has removed his seat belt, there would be no airbags and no seat belt, so mitigation would be minimal.
The car the took the brunt of the impact (looks like a black G20 3 Series) was in traffic, so probably had all its safety features active even if it wasn't moving. It wasn't parked and switched off so it was most likely still "live", even if stop/start had turned the engine off.ColdoRS said:
rambo19 said:
Iv'e had a look into my crystal ball.
Innit bruv in a hire car.
Yep.Innit bruv in a hire car.
White Audi.
Birmingham.
Inshallah.
I've asked him to slow down to which I got a load of abuse. Short of slashing his tyres there's nothing I can do as I have no proof to give to the police unless I buy a camera to watch the road. At which point he'll get at most a slap on the wrist if anything and i'll have some vengeful neighbours and a load of his bruv mates to contend with.
MitchT said:
oyster said:
But I'm struggling to see how car drivers and passengers have got seriously hurt in such an impact.
The car that's hit from behind is accelerated pretty much instantly to a fairly high speed and then stopped pretty much instantly by the two cars that it hits, one of which is traveling in the opposite direction. There's only so much that passive safety devices can do to mitigate the kind of internal injuries that this will cause.Similar level of stupidity to the Range Rover Sport that ended up on a train line having flown over a Tesla dealer while ejecting passengers.
Trouble is that the only way to deal with these people is for them to be physically caught in the act. Cameras unlikely to work due to combination of false plates / unclear registered keeper / unknown driver etc. And that type of policing seems far less common these days. The driving was utterly insane
Trouble is that the only way to deal with these people is for them to be physically caught in the act. Cameras unlikely to work due to combination of false plates / unclear registered keeper / unknown driver etc. And that type of policing seems far less common these days. The driving was utterly insane
Otispunkmeyer said:
MitchT said:
oyster said:
But I'm struggling to see how car drivers and passengers have got seriously hurt in such an impact.
The car that's hit from behind is accelerated pretty much instantly to a fairly high speed and then stopped pretty much instantly by the two cars that it hits, one of which is traveling in the opposite direction. There's only so much that passive safety devices can do to mitigate the kind of internal injuries that this will cause.Shortly after the HANS devices were made compulsory in Indycar or CART (can't remember what they were calling themselves at the time) someone put a car into the wall almost head on at 200mph and limped away with a sore foot instead of almost certain death.
fiatpower said:
Almost certainly. There's one up my road who is really starting to pee me off. He's mid 20's if that, lives at home and drives a G63 AMG. We live in a 150m long cul de sac with them at the end. Numerous times every day you hear him flooring it up and down the road comfortably over 30mph, squirming all over the place when it's wet. The other day he half mounted the kerb as our neighbour had his car on the road and continued to drive down most of the pavement at the same speed. It's only a matter of time before he smashes it somewhere.
I've asked him to slow down to which I got a load of abuse. Short of slashing his tyres there's nothing I can do as I have no proof to give to the police unless I buy a camera to watch the road. At which point he'll get at most a slap on the wrist if anything and i'll have some vengeful neighbours and a load of his bruv mates to contend with.
Crimestoppers is anonymous. I've asked him to slow down to which I got a load of abuse. Short of slashing his tyres there's nothing I can do as I have no proof to give to the police unless I buy a camera to watch the road. At which point he'll get at most a slap on the wrist if anything and i'll have some vengeful neighbours and a load of his bruv mates to contend with.
Catweazle said:
fiatpower said:
Almost certainly. There's one up my road who is really starting to pee me off. He's mid 20's if that, lives at home and drives a G63 AMG. We live in a 150m long cul de sac with them at the end. Numerous times every day you hear him flooring it up and down the road comfortably over 30mph, squirming all over the place when it's wet. The other day he half mounted the kerb as our neighbour had his car on the road and continued to drive down most of the pavement at the same speed. It's only a matter of time before he smashes it somewhere.
I've asked him to slow down to which I got a load of abuse. Short of slashing his tyres there's nothing I can do as I have no proof to give to the police unless I buy a camera to watch the road. At which point he'll get at most a slap on the wrist if anything and i'll have some vengeful neighbours and a load of his bruv mates to contend with.
Crimestoppers is anonymous. I've asked him to slow down to which I got a load of abuse. Short of slashing his tyres there's nothing I can do as I have no proof to give to the police unless I buy a camera to watch the road. At which point he'll get at most a slap on the wrist if anything and i'll have some vengeful neighbours and a load of his bruv mates to contend with.
fiatpower said:
Almost certainly. There's one up my road who is really starting to pee me off. He's mid 20's if that, lives at home and drives a G63 AMG. We live in a 150m long cul de sac with them at the end. Numerous times every day you hear him flooring it up and down the road comfortably over 30mph, squirming all over the place when it's wet. The other day he half mounted the kerb as our neighbour had his car on the road and continued to drive down most of the pavement at the same speed. It's only a matter of time before he smashes it somewhere.
I've asked him to slow down to which I got a load of abuse. Short of slashing his tyres there's nothing I can do as I have no proof to give to the police unless I buy a camera to watch the road. At which point he'll get at most a slap on the wrist if anything and i'll have some vengeful neighbours and a load of his bruv mates to contend with.
He could be issued with a Section 59 order. Car will be impounded if he’s caught after that.I've asked him to slow down to which I got a load of abuse. Short of slashing his tyres there's nothing I can do as I have no proof to give to the police unless I buy a camera to watch the road. At which point he'll get at most a slap on the wrist if anything and i'll have some vengeful neighbours and a load of his bruv mates to contend with.
oyster said:
When I see things like this I feel we need another category of offence for them to be prosecuted with.
It's so far beyond what is acceptable that it's an offence against the very fabric of our society.
Similar to how the looters in 2011 were treated more harshly.
The driver could be charged with vehicular manslaughter instead of causing death by dangerous driving. Carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.It's so far beyond what is acceptable that it's an offence against the very fabric of our society.
Similar to how the looters in 2011 were treated more harshly.
matchmaker said:
oyster said:
When I see things like this I feel we need another category of offence for them to be prosecuted with.
It's so far beyond what is acceptable that it's an offence against the very fabric of our society.
Similar to how the looters in 2011 were treated more harshly.
The driver could be charged with vehicular manslaughter instead of causing death by dangerous driving. Carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.It's so far beyond what is acceptable that it's an offence against the very fabric of our society.
Similar to how the looters in 2011 were treated more harshly.
I don't think we need a new offence. I think we need to increase the sentences for the current offence. I'd also like to see twuntish driving being punished by the car being seized and crushed.
Countdown said:
matchmaker said:
oyster said:
When I see things like this I feel we need another category of offence for them to be prosecuted with.
It's so far beyond what is acceptable that it's an offence against the very fabric of our society.
Similar to how the looters in 2011 were treated more harshly.
The driver could be charged with vehicular manslaughter instead of causing death by dangerous driving. Carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.It's so far beyond what is acceptable that it's an offence against the very fabric of our society.
Similar to how the looters in 2011 were treated more harshly.
I don't think we need a new offence. I think we need to increase the sentences for the current offence. I'd also like to see twuntish driving being punished by the car being seized and crushed.
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