Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party? (Vol. 2)
Discussion
Lester H said:
S600BSB said:
He has.
Correct. Since I posted on here about 3 months ago, all he has to do is avoid major errors.When you couple that with the lack of quality people on his team, the general apathy towards politics and politicians in general he is going to need to inspire people more than just a bit.
I listened to part of his local election launch speech, the delivery alone was mind numbing and enough to put you to sleep. The content was the same old vacuous rhetoric and contentless word salad with a healthy dose of "because I'm not the Tories" thrown in.
If that's all he's got I could easily see a hung parliament and further descent into petty bickering.
That will mean another wasted 5 years, at least.
Wombat3 said:
Lester H said:
S600BSB said:
He has.
Correct. Since I posted on here about 3 months ago, all he has to do is avoid major errors.When you couple that with the lack of quality people on his team, the general apathy towards politics and politicians in general he is going to need to inspire people more than just a bit.
I listened to part of his local election launch speech, the delivery alone was mind numbing and enough to put you to sleep. The content was the same old vacuous rhetoric and contentless word salad with a healthy dose of "because I'm not the Tories" thrown in.
If that's all he's got I could easily see a hung parliament and further descent into petty bickering.
That will mean another wasted 5 years, at least.
SKS will also need a decent majority himself to allow some very difficult decisions to be enacted; the desperate state of our public services and 14 years of virtually no economic growth means prioritising resources etc will be challenging. But I absolutely believe he is going to do it. Broken Britain certainly needs him to!
S600BSB said:
Wombat is right in that to overturn a 80 seat majority in a single parliament would be an astonishing achievement - particularly given the state of Labour when SKS took over a leader.
SKS will also need a decent majority himself to allow some very difficult decisions to be enacted; the desperate state of our public services and 14 years of virtually no economic growth means prioritising resources etc will be challenging. But I absolutely believe he is going to do it. Broken Britain certainly needs him to!
2019 wasn't a normal GE though, it was a 'whoever would get brexit done' GE. As a result the Tories got far more than they would otherwise have done.SKS will also need a decent majority himself to allow some very difficult decisions to be enacted; the desperate state of our public services and 14 years of virtually no economic growth means prioritising resources etc will be challenging. But I absolutely believe he is going to do it. Broken Britain certainly needs him to!
Rufus Stone said:
S600BSB said:
Wombat is right in that to overturn a 80 seat majority in a single parliament would be an astonishing achievement - particularly given the state of Labour when SKS took over a leader.
SKS will also need a decent majority himself to allow some very difficult decisions to be enacted; the desperate state of our public services and 14 years of virtually no economic growth means prioritising resources etc will be challenging. But I absolutely believe he is going to do it. Broken Britain certainly needs him to!
2019 wasn't a normal GE though, it was a 'whoever would get brexit done' GE. As a result the Tories got far more than they would otherwise have done.SKS will also need a decent majority himself to allow some very difficult decisions to be enacted; the desperate state of our public services and 14 years of virtually no economic growth means prioritising resources etc will be challenging. But I absolutely believe he is going to do it. Broken Britain certainly needs him to!
However, you also have to throw boundary changes into the mix as well which make the task harder. I.m also not convinced that the red wall will turn red again. That doesn't mean it will stay blue either.
crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Still better than the Racist party though (oops Reform).He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
And yet he'll win the next GE. Not bad for a 'nowhere' man.He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Meanwhile your messiahs Farage and Tice will win feck all.
crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Maybe he can hum it as he walks into Number 10 He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Everything was better in the 1950s wasn’t it Crank. Haha He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Man, I used this one months, maybe years ago....He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Wombat3 said:
Rufus Stone said:
S600BSB said:
Wombat is right in that to overturn a 80 seat majority in a single parliament would be an astonishing achievement - particularly given the state of Labour when SKS took over a leader.
SKS will also need a decent majority himself to allow some very difficult decisions to be enacted; the desperate state of our public services and 14 years of virtually no economic growth means prioritising resources etc will be challenging. But I absolutely believe he is going to do it. Broken Britain certainly needs him to!
2019 wasn't a normal GE though, it was a 'whoever would get brexit done' GE. As a result the Tories got far more than they would otherwise have done.SKS will also need a decent majority himself to allow some very difficult decisions to be enacted; the desperate state of our public services and 14 years of virtually no economic growth means prioritising resources etc will be challenging. But I absolutely believe he is going to do it. Broken Britain certainly needs him to!
However, you also have to throw boundary changes into the mix as well which make the task harder. I.m also not convinced that the red wall will turn red again. That doesn't mean it will stay blue either.
biggbn said:
crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Man, I used this one months, maybe years ago....He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
S600BSB said:
crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Everything was better in the 1950s wasn’t it Crank. Haha He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
I dunno, tell me about it
crankedup5 said:
biggbn said:
crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Man, I used this one months, maybe years ago....He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
biggbn said:
crankedup5 said:
biggbn said:
crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere manjeri
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Man, I used this one months, maybe years ago....He’s a real nowhere manjeri
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Guess that Truss wasn’t around long enough for her to be labelled with a music track?
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Maybe he can hum it as he walks into Number 10 He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Very funny and strange at same time.
crankedup5 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Maybe he can hum it as he walks into Number 10 He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Very funny and strange at same time.
crankedup5 said:
S600BSB said:
crankedup5 said:
Never have the lyrics from The Beatles been so appropriate in describing SKS :
He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
Everything was better in the 1950s wasn’t it Crank. Haha He’s a real nowhere man
sitting in his nowhere land
making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn’t have a point of view
Knows not where he’s going to
(passed on from Little Miss Brexit)
I dunno, tell me about it
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