Angela Rayner to face investigation?

Angela Rayner to face investigation?

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dai1983

2,922 posts

150 months

Wednesday 1st May
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President Merkin said:
This really is barrel scraping stupidity. One, check the date, two check the intention, three check whether Starmer takes advantage of it & what he has said publicly he would do with it, In a thread reeking of right wing desperation, your funk really is standing out.
Could maybe smell of Tuna?

sugerbear

4,070 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st May
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President Merkin said:
Deesee said:
This one created his own case law.. one rule for them.. and all that, I’m sure he was a Marxist at Uni.




George and Dave have some answers to prepare in advance.. creation of a special scheme just for KS? As head of the CPS..
This really is barrel scraping stupidity. One, check the date, two check the intention, three check whether Starmer takes advantage of it & what he has said publicly he would do with it, In a thread reeking of right wing desperation, your funk really is standing out.
It's also the standard for every single Director of Prosecution. But hey, right wingers gonna right wing right.

Rufus Stone

6,335 posts

57 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Deesee said:
This one created his own case law.. one rule for them.. and all that, I’m sure he was a Marxist at Uni.




George and Dave have some answers to prepare in advance.. creation of a special scheme just for KS? As head of the CPS..
His employer established a pension scheme for him. Is that a crime all of a sudden?

Deesee

8,475 posts

84 months

Wednesday 1st May
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President Merkin said:
Deesee said:
This one created his own case law.. one rule for them.. and all that, I’m sure he was a Marxist at Uni.




George and Dave have some answers to prepare in advance.. creation of a special scheme just for KS? As head of the CPS..
This really is barrel scraping stupidity. One, check the date, two check the intention, three check whether Starmer takes advantage of it & what he has said publicly he would do with it, In a thread reeking of right wing desperation, your funk really is standing out.
The Lib Dem/Cons government create a special scheme for a civil servant, proposed by said civil servant. Totally normal to get treasury sign off for such an instrument.. backs scratched?

Mr Penguin

1,285 posts

40 months

Wednesday 1st May
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And another one, this time very much within the statute of limitations
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/richard-parker-...

sugerbear

4,070 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Mr Penguin said:
And another one, this time very much within the statute of limitations
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/richard-parker-...
https://www.warwickshireworld.com/news/politics/council/rugby-tories-stonewall-further-questions-about-use-of-allotment-for-election-candidacy-4172958

People in glass houses..

Mr Penguin

1,285 posts

40 months

Wednesday 1st May
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They should certainly follow the rules as much as anyone else.

nikaiyo2

4,762 posts

196 months

Wednesday 1st May
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djohnson said:
I have to say I agree that, in my opinion, there’s more to this than is clear at the moment (or may ever by clear). I don’t believe that AR even realised that CGT was a potential issue at the time (does anyone really think AR at the time understood even the basics of the CGT rules and designed a subterfuge to evade liability?) . There was (and is) however some clear and most likely deliberate obfuscation going on concerning who lived where. Discounting the possibility that this was designed to evade CGT it’s unclear what the intent actually was. It could be some fairly benign reason, alternatively it may not be. I do wonder whether her brother was in receipt of housing or other benefit to which he wouldn’t have been entitled had it been clear that he lived with her / in her house. Or that pretending still to live there ensured she qualified for the full purchase discount when in fact she’d moved out before this had been accrued (and possibly earlier than has been assumed thus far). I might be wrong, we might never know, however I don’t believe we yet understand why this odd structure of residences etc was set up and hence I think there’s more to this.
I am sure that when I have sold property my conveyancer has mentioned CGT etc as part of the completion process and advised checking the HMRC website to see if anything is owed, its really simple fill out a few details and it tells you what you owe.

Its the beauty of selling a property you have genuine legal advice through the entire process so can usually ask this legal professional if something is not clear.

I think suggesting someone has sold a property in blissful ignorance of CGT would be stretching it, owing to the legal advice she must have had during the sale.


Deesee

8,475 posts

84 months

Wednesday 1st May
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President Merkin said:
Deesee said:
This one created his own case law.. one rule for them.. and all that, I’m sure he was a Marxist at Uni.




George and Dave have some answers to prepare in advance.. creation of a special scheme just for KS? As head of the CPS..
This really is barrel scraping stupidity. One, check the date, two check the intention, three check whether Starmer takes advantage of it & what he has said publicly he would do with it, In a thread reeking of right wing desperation, your funk really is standing out.
Did not seem so keen today to answer it in PMQ..

https://x.com/bestforbritain/status/17856328462514...



Rufus Stone

6,335 posts

57 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Deesee said:
Did not seem so keen today to answer it in PMQ..

https://x.com/bestforbritain/status/17856328462514...
Is Starmer the PM now then?

Deesee

8,475 posts

84 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Rufus Stone said:
Deesee said:
Did not seem so keen today to answer it in PMQ..

https://x.com/bestforbritain/status/17856328462514...
Is Starmer the PM now then?
Granted thumbup it’s the way he is slumped down and facial expression of defeat when Sunak retorts… Even Mordaunt breaks a wee smile.

(Where’s Ang)? Could not here any loser or scum cries today?

119

6,479 posts

37 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Deesee said:
Rufus Stone said:
Deesee said:
Did not seem so keen today to answer it in PMQ..

https://x.com/bestforbritain/status/17856328462514...
Is Starmer the PM now then?
Granted thumbup it’s the way he is slumped down and facial expression of defeat when Sunak retorts… Even Mordaunt breaks a wee smile.

(Where’s Ang)? Could not here any loser or scum cries today?
Just doing a draft of her acceptance speech i think.

hehe

MaxFromage

1,907 posts

132 months

Wednesday 1st May
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nikaiyo2 said:
I am sure that when I have sold property my conveyancer has mentioned CGT etc as part of the completion process and advised checking the HMRC website to see if anything is owed, its really simple fill out a few details and it tells you what you owe.

Its the beauty of selling a property you have genuine legal advice through the entire process so can usually ask this legal professional if something is not clear.

I think suggesting someone has sold a property in blissful ignorance of CGT would be stretching it, owing to the legal advice she must have had during the sale.
Unfortunately not. There are lots of solicitors/conveyancers out there who make no mention of CGT to their clients.

pork911

7,217 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Deesee said:
President Merkin said:
Deesee said:
This one created his own case law.. one rule for them.. and all that, I’m sure he was a Marxist at Uni.




George and Dave have some answers to prepare in advance.. creation of a special scheme just for KS? As head of the CPS..
This really is barrel scraping stupidity. One, check the date, two check the intention, three check whether Starmer takes advantage of it & what he has said publicly he would do with it, In a thread reeking of right wing desperation, your funk really is standing out.
Did not seem so keen today to answer it in PMQ..

https://x.com/bestforbritain/status/17856328462514...
What case law?

blueg33

36,062 posts

225 months

Thursday 2nd May
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nikaiyo2 said:
I am sure that when I have sold property my conveyancer has mentioned CGT etc as part of the completion process and advised checking the HMRC website to see if anything is owed, its really simple fill out a few details and it tells you what you owe.

Its the beauty of selling a property you have genuine legal advice through the entire process so can usually ask this legal professional if something is not clear.

I think suggesting someone has sold a property in blissful ignorance of CGT would be stretching it, owing to the legal advice she must have had during the sale.
Conveyancers shouldn’t be giving tax advice. Most are not even solicitors

119

6,479 posts

37 months

Thursday 2nd May
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blueg33 said:
nikaiyo2 said:
I am sure that when I have sold property my conveyancer has mentioned CGT etc as part of the completion process and advised checking the HMRC website to see if anything is owed, its really simple fill out a few details and it tells you what you owe.

Its the beauty of selling a property you have genuine legal advice through the entire process so can usually ask this legal professional if something is not clear.

I think suggesting someone has sold a property in blissful ignorance of CGT would be stretching it, owing to the legal advice she must have had during the sale.
Conveyancers shouldn’t be giving tax advice. Most are not even solicitors
It wasn't tax advice at all, merely a suggestion.

And I would be quite grateful for it if I didn’t know about it.

768

13,741 posts

97 months

Thursday 2nd May
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I guess with the local elections out of the way it won't be long now before we get to find out if they've found a big enough rug to sweep this under.

blueg33

36,062 posts

225 months

Friday 3rd May
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768 said:
I guess with the local elections out of the way it won't be long now before we get to find out if they've found a big enough rug to sweep this under.
Or if there is nothing to see here and it was just desperate noise from a sinking party

5 In a Row

1,496 posts

228 months

Friday 3rd May
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119 said:
blueg33 said:
nikaiyo2 said:
I am sure that when I have sold property my conveyancer has mentioned CGT etc as part of the completion process and advised checking the HMRC website to see if anything is owed, its really simple fill out a few details and it tells you what you owe.

Its the beauty of selling a property you have genuine legal advice through the entire process so can usually ask this legal professional if something is not clear.

I think suggesting someone has sold a property in blissful ignorance of CGT would be stretching it, owing to the legal advice she must have had during the sale.
Conveyancers shouldn’t be giving tax advice. Most are not even solicitors
It wasn't tax advice at all, merely a suggestion.

And I would be quite grateful for it if I didn’t know about it.
Maybe it depends where you live and the value of houses there?
I've moved house at least 15 times and nobody has mentioned CGT to me.

The only time its come up was last year in respect of my mum's house since that's an inheritance.

TonyToniTone

3,433 posts

250 months

Angela Rayner set to be interviewed under caution amid council tax investigation.

Labour’s deputy leader’s spokesman declined to comment on the investigation that continues to dog the MP