Mark Menzies MP campaign funds
Discussion
BikeBikeBIke said:
Can someone who knows tell me, is there any way campaign funds can go into a Private account without it being a crime?
Seems cut and dried to me at that point, without any need for further investigation. I'd be interested to know if that's wrong.
According to Father Ted it is ok if the money is just resting in your account.Seems cut and dried to me at that point, without any need for further investigation. I'd be interested to know if that's wrong.
Blue62 said:
DeejRC said:
This muppet is my parents local MP. On the face of it this is utterly pathetic behavior. It’s grubby, pathetic cheap behaviour from someone who doesn’t deserve the respect of a snail.
I’m sure the facts will out at some point. I see no reason for there not to be a criminal investigation to establish these facts.
It’s a bizarre story, actually strikes me that he may have mental health problems, but I’m not convinced the whole truth will come out, they’ve swing into damage limitation mode. On the face of it, it’s difficult to see how he can continue as an MP, another by election. I’m sure the facts will out at some point. I see no reason for there not to be a criminal investigation to establish these facts.
Did a snail eat your lettuce?
On the other hand maybe he is just a grubby fraudster. Why hasn't he resigned?
768 said:
Huh.
No one calling for him to resign immediately for being under investigation? How strange.
A) He has admitted the offence No one calling for him to resign immediately for being under investigation? How strange.
B) He said that tory officials told him he didn't need to pay the money back.
C) Despite his protestations that he was being held against his will the police were never involved.
B) is the reason in his head why he doesn't need to resign. Someone said it was ok. Allegedly.
768 said:
Huh.
No one calling for him to resign immediately for being under investigation? How strange.
He has resigned his position. Typically, for MPs to leave entirely under their own volition they have to go via the same process Boris did. But he'll sit this one out and accept the gardening leave until the GE.No one calling for him to resign immediately for being under investigation? How strange.
Blue62 said:
I’ve no idea, but I suspect that, as is the norm, a damage limitation exercise is underway. Shapps admitted that they’ve been looking into this for some time, but new information (code for the story was about to break) came to light.
I should’ve put a question mark after by election, but either the whip is restored to him or he continues as an independent or he resigns or is forced to by his constituency. It all depends on the outcome but I think there’s a good chance he’ll be gone.
Unlikely with six months to go before the election and the Conservatives won't want to push it and get another one.I should’ve put a question mark after by election, but either the whip is restored to him or he continues as an independent or he resigns or is forced to by his constituency. It all depends on the outcome but I think there’s a good chance he’ll be gone.
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-...
Evanivitch said:
768 said:
Huh.
No one calling for him to resign immediately for being under investigation? How strange.
He has resigned his position. Typically, for MPs to leave entirely under their own volition they have to go via the same process Boris did. But he'll sit this one out and accept the gardening leave until the GE.No one calling for him to resign immediately for being under investigation? How strange.
Mr Penguin said:
Unlikely with six months to go before the election and the Conservatives won't want to push it and get another one.
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-...
I agree, but his constituents could force the issue. https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-...
Blue62 said:
I agree, but his constituents could force the issue.
Not really. A recall petition will take place if an MP is:
- convicted of an offence in the UK and receives a custodial sentence (including a suspended sentence) or is ordered to be detained, other than solely under mental health legislation
- suspended from the House of Commons for 10 sitting days or 14 calendar days
- convicted of providing false or misleading information for allowance claims under the Parliamentary Standards Act 2009.
The six month rule means anything needs to happen before the end of July (conveniently around the same time as parliament leaves for the summer recess). I don't see the allowance claims being applicable here; a police investigation, court case, and conviction will take more than three months; with recesses, there isn't that much parliamentary time left for the standards committee to investigate and they usually go slowly anyway (based on the two cases they have open now). https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/st...
Edit: the recall petition takes six weeks so even if it does happen, if the election is announced at a certain date then they might postpone it and hold the resulting election in the GE anyway.
Edited by Mr Penguin on Thursday 18th April 09:39
sugerbear said:
I guess this must by the same reason why Angela Rayner isn't going, she doesn't want to inconvenience the electorate who would otherwise have to pay for two elections in the space of 12 months.
There's a thread discussing at length that Angela Raynor ha nothing to resign for.rscott said:
Appears the party have been investigating this for several months, but only suspended him when the story hit the press this week.
Almost as though they were aware of the 6 month rule and we're trying to delay any action...
I'm sure they'll do the same as the last 3 (?) MPs put it similar positions and claim it's resolved and they are now concerned for their mental health. Almost as though they were aware of the 6 month rule and we're trying to delay any action...
President Merkin said:
Shapps this morning: "Just because an accusation is made, or something is written, doesn't mean it is necessarily proven"
Shapps last week: "The double standards have been extraordinary. Angela Rayner has spent her political career calling people out for exactly the thing she seems to be doing now..."
I'll judge this thread by its absentees.
Shapps talking bShapps last week: "The double standards have been extraordinary. Angela Rayner has spent her political career calling people out for exactly the thing she seems to be doing now..."
I'll judge this thread by its absentees.
ks?I find that very hard to believe..
President Merkin said:
Shapps this morning: "Just because an accusation is made, or something is written, doesn't mean it is necessarily proven"
Shapps last week: "The double standards have been extraordinary. Angela Rayner has spent her political career calling people out for exactly the thing she seems to be doing now..."
I'll judge this thread by its absentees.
Whereas we can all judge you by the stupidity of your posts. Shapps last week: "The double standards have been extraordinary. Angela Rayner has spent her political career calling people out for exactly the thing she seems to be doing now..."
I'll judge this thread by its absentees.
Shapps reference to double standards for AR is clear. Being investigated by the Police was enough for AR to call for resignations,.........until it applied to her.
If Menzies has done anything wrong, throw the book at him. Dishonesty is dishonesty regardless of the colour of the rosette. Due process will determine if the book should be launched or not.
andymadmak said:
Whereas we can all judge you by the stupidity of your posts.
Shapps reference to double standards for AR is clear. Being investigated by the Police was enough for AR to call for resignations,.........until it applied to her.
If Menzies has done anything wrong, throw the book at him. Dishonesty is dishonesty regardless of the colour of the rosette. Due process will determine if the book should be launched or not.
Aww, that's rough Andy. I'm not as think as you stupid I am.Shapps reference to double standards for AR is clear. Being investigated by the Police was enough for AR to call for resignations,.........until it applied to her.
If Menzies has done anything wrong, throw the book at him. Dishonesty is dishonesty regardless of the colour of the rosette. Due process will determine if the book should be launched or not.
Anyway, now we're off the why are you following me around & dishing out childish insults? phase of the discourse, you know full well the difference between someone who was an imposverished care worker at the time of an alleged offence - alleged btw by a Tory MP unable to articulate exactly what that offence is, despite repeated requests & someone who was PM & no matter how often you & your one eyed true bluers attempt to run this nothingburger up into crime of the century, you're failing over & over again. Now stop being such a silly sausage, there's a good chap.
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